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Where Are the Condemnations of Abortion Protester James Pouillon’s Murder?

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James Pouillon, aka “the sign guy,” was the abortion rights opponent gunned down in suburban Owosso, Michigan, early Friday morning. Shortly after his murder, a Facebook Friend of mine with a conservative political outlook posted the question: “Where is the outrage?”

Her point being that when famous abortion doctor George Tiller was murdered a few months ago, expressions of condolence from all sides of the abortion debate rocketed through the Internet within a short time.

My response to her was to wait. At that point, we didn’t know if Pouillon had been targeted because of his abortion stance or whether the killer had some more personal motive. If this were a domestic killing of some sort, his abortion protests might have been totally unrelated.

Well, we now know what the authorities are telling us. According to the Detroit News:

“We believe Mr. Drake was not happy with the way Mr. Pouillon was protesting,” said Chief Shiawassee County Assistant Prosecutor Sara Edwards.

The day that Dr. Tiller was killed, I was easily able to cull a series of condemnations from my e-box from individuals and organizations opposed to abortion and I posted excerpts from several of the statements here.

Those who made statements included Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission; the president and board of directors of Catholics for Choice; Interfaith Alliance Board Chair the Rev. Dr. Galen Guengerich; and Operation Rescue.

The suspect in Dr. Tiller’s murder has been linked to some more extreme anti-abortion organizations, but not to any of the groups I just cited. Nonetheless, they felt some moral imperative to condemn the killing. And even if you think the statements were pro forma, the statements were quickly made.

Condemnation from the other side of the debate was less surprising, and there was plenty of it.

Barack Obama issued his condolences before nightfall that Sunday.

Let’s grant that Dr. Tiller was famous before he was killed and that nobody much outside of Owosso had ever heard of Pouillon a week ago. And let’s also grant that nobody has come up with any connections thus far between the suspect in Pouillon’s murder and any organization with any stand concerning abortion.

But Pouillon is sure famous now. And two days after his murder, I can find few statements about it, pro forma or otherwise, on any of the websites of any of the prominent organizations that support abortion rights.

Not NARAL. Not NOW. Not Planned Parenthood. Not Catholics for Choice.

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We’ve heard endless stories in the mainline media about “anti-choice violence” and an “organized campaign of terror and intimidation against reproductive health centers.”

But where does the real violence
lie when it comes to the abortion
issue?

Pro-life groups have emphasized the violence that goes on inside the abortion mills—but what about the violence that pro-abortionists commit against born human beings?

The pro-life movement is unquestionably the most peaceful social movement of all time.

We have all heard about the seven murders committed by self-identified anti-abortionists during the time period 1994-1998. But to put this into perspective, according to the United States government, more janitors, bartenders, secretaries, hairdressers and cosmetologists have been killed on the job than abortionists.

The most violent social movement of all time is so-called “pro-choice.”

Not only have “pro-choicer’s” killed tens of millions of innocent preborn babies in the name of convenience, they have murdered hundreds of men, women and children.

abortionviolence.com/more.html
 
JANEZIC: In 1993, pro-abortion activist Eileen Orstein Janezic murdered pro-life activist minister and radio talk show host Jerry Simon in Huntsville, Alabama. After killing Simon, she held police at bay with a pistol for six hours while spouting quotes from Anton LaVey’s “Satanic Bible.” In October 1994, a jury found her guilty of murder, and she was sentenced to life in prison (Huntsville, Alabama).

physiciansforlife.org/content/view/1164/26/
 
LOOPER: Pro-abortionist Byron Looper, a Monterey, Tennessee county property assessor running against pro-life state Senator Tommy Burks, shot Burks in the left eye with a large-caliber handgun near a pumpkin patch where he planned to take schoolchildren on a hayride that same day. A witness said that Looper told him after the murder that “I did it, man, I did it! I killed that dude!” (Monterey, Tennessee).

physiciansforlife.org/content/view/1164/26/
 
SHERMAN: Abortionist Robert Sherman killed 16-year old Carmen Rita McDowell by intentionally performing an incomplete second-trimester abortion upon her in March 1975, so he could collect additional fees. The girl collapsed and was taken to a hospital, where emergency treatment removed a mangled preborn child. She died the next day from a septic abortion. The abortionist was paroled after 22 months in prison. His indictment said that he had a “malicious interest in making more money, cutting his costs and saving his time in disregard for the life and health of his patients.” After he was paroled, he began doing abortions again in Massachusetts and Virginia (Washington, D.C.).
*physiciansforlife.org/content/view/1164/26/
 

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…

Human Life International has documented more than 8,519 acts of violence and illegal activities by pro-abortionists. These crimes include:

1,251 homicides and other killings
157 attempted homicides
28 arsons and firebombings
904 assaults
1,908 sex crimes (including 250 rapes)
106 kidnappings
420 cases of vandalism
290 drug crimes
1,616 medical crimes

…

Also, 520 murders and 360 fatal botched abortions by pro abortionists, including;

145 pregnant women
360 abortion clients
71 other women
110 born children
164 wanted preborn children, and
30 men (including two pro-life activists,
two abortionists, and a sheriff’s deputy)
Deadly pro-abortion violence has been reported at least since 1965 and is escalating rapidly, with an incredible 269 homicides and other killings committed in just the last six years (since 2000). 2005 was the bloodiest year, with pro-abortionists murdering 77 people, including 28 pregnant women (and their 28 wanted preborn babies), two baby boys, one little boy and five little girls, four men and two women, and seven other wanted preborn babies. The pro-abortionists almost matched this bloody slaughter in 2002, with 58 deaths, and in 2003, with 53 deaths. In fact, pro-abortionists have averaged more murders per year since 1967 (that’s 39 years in a row) than so-called “pro-lifers” have in the history of the entire conflict over abortion!

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“Leftists back violence? Like bombings and shootings of protesters at abortion clinics? Or is it the ‘pro-life’ folks doing that?”

Yeah and WE’RE the bad guys.:rolleyes:
 
Aquinas62 said:
I ask you one thing… do you think those people convicted of A.C violence will be offered college teaching positions at prestigious universities?
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Your premise is inaccurate in leaving out some relevant details and irrelevant.
Aquinas62 said:
Will they also be asked to ghost write books for politicians and launch political careers in their living rooms such as old ex Weathermen have?
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Your inaccurate rumor-mongering is irrelevant. As I mentioned, that particular political career had already been launched years previously and that I similarly had a ‘meet and greet’ for the politician; not in my living room but in my library with several friends of myself, an ex altar boy.
 
Darryl1958 said:
Is it your opinion too that pro-life is strictly a cause of the conservative movement then, and an anathema to all that the left wing holds dear?
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No, I think conservatives (particularly those here) make too many blanket statements.
Darryl1958 said:
Your attitude which points that out …
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I think it is time to de-personalize the conversation.

Statements here that violence is a leftist trait happen to be false.
 
Well, I guess now that this thread has been randomly turned into a screed against Jane Fonda and George Soros, nobody else can use it for any purpose whatsoever.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
No, I think conservatives (particularly those here) make too many blanket statements.
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Certainly no one has ever mentioned so far that violence is a leftist trait, as if it was a genetic defect or that left and right wind tendencies were inhereited like shoe size or metabolism rate.

Rather the contention is that this latest attack is part of a trend on th el left.
Perhaps it is because the right never ever makes heroes of people who support our causes resorting to violence, never give them presidential pardons or want them offered prestigious position or to be married into the conservative elites. Instead, very much of a law and order mindset, the discussion on the right tends to be more whether the death penalty or life imprisonment is more befitting those who murder for a political cause.

As much as the 50 million unborn cry out for justice, they will not be justified by the support of murderers any more than union violence justifies workers, Islamist terrorism justifies Muslim humiliation, or treasonous acts justifies peace.

The difference here is not according to trait or genetic dispositions of the left and right. The difference is vigilance, and the basic behaviorist understanding of human nature that behaviors that are rewarded tend to increase and those that are punished tend to decrease.
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Darryl1958 said:
Perhaps it is because the right never ever makes heroes of people who support our causes resorting to violence, never give them presidential pardons or want them offered prestigious position or to be married into the conservative elites. Instead, very much of a law and order mindset, the discussion on the right tends to be more whether the death penalty or life imprisonment is more befitting those who murder for a political cause.
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To that I say nonsense. Klaus von Bulow continued to move in Republican right-wing upper crust circles after he was found ‘not guilty’ of attempted murder of his wife. Like OJ and Robert Blake were found not guilty of murder.

Do conservatives maintain that misguided heroes died at Ruby Ridge? I’ve heard that said.

I don’t think the left has lionized those who have resorted to violence or who have committed violent crimes. Blanket statements are almost never accurate.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
No, I think conservatives (particularly those here) make too many blanket statements.

I think it is time to de-personalize the conversation.

Statements here that violence is a leftist trait happen to be false.
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Yeah Communism is a REAL good example of that…
 
Pax_et_Bonum said:
Yeah Communism is a REAL good example of that…
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Ah, yes. Liberals and those who lean left are just a few steps from wanting to reopen the gulags and re-education camps.

But, lest we leave anyone out, there’s Franco and Mussolini and their right-wing thugs to remember.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Ah, yes. Liberals and those who lean left are just a few steps from wanting to reopen the gulags and re-education camps.

But, lest we leave anyone out, there’s Franco and Mussolini and their right-wing thugs to remember.
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The left and right defines themselves as much through who they takes stands against as what they stand for.
Mussolini and Hitler and enemies of humanity in general are as much against the principles of conservatives as they are against the principles of liberals. Neo-nazis are as repudiated as much by the conservatives here, and the conservative movement as a whole, as they are by the left—nae more, for the tendency to link the Islamists with the fascists was almost exclusively done by conservatives here before the term itself was banned, and never as a term of endearment!!

To be clear, fascism is not a good thing. Fascists are not welcome in the conservative movement.
And leftists demonizing the tea party and George Bush as fascists makes a liar of such leftists more than it makes a lie out of my previous statement:rolleyes:

Conservatives here repudiate the Hitlers of the world even more than we do the treasonous acts of a Hanoi Jane, or the sociopathic manipulations of a leftist George Soros.

In all cases, it is an authentic repudiation. I don’t think any of us feel any less conservative for dissociating ourselves from such people and their ideals.

There are a few certain people on these forums from time to time who do praise Franco though. This is more a* Catholic *phenomena though than a conservative one, for such people are invariably as much critics of the Republican party and modern conservatism as are the Democrats here.
 
Beau Ouiville:
Blanket statements are almost never accurate.
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And yet they seem to be the most commonly used form of “argument” on this forum.
 
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