Glenn Beck rally will be a measure of the tea party's strength

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Beck is a Libertarian, not a conservative. Beck has said that he is not opposed to gay marriage. Beck has ripped the GOP as much as he has ripped the Democrats…yet it is always the Left who want to criticize and demonize Beck.

Beck has worked hard to get where he is in life and he hasn’t cheated anyone, to the best of my knowledge.

The real airhheads, ditzes and twits are the bunch from Hollywood, be they writers, actors, movie producers, network executives, etc. That bunch sputs off an opinion about anything and millions (mostly women) gobble it all up. I do a laot of the grocery shopping in our house and I can’t beleive the celebrity based trash that is always for sale in the checkouts. People who eat that up are the dangerous ones - not people who listen to Beck or Limbaugh. people who listen to Beck or Limbaugh don’t have the time nore the deisre to waste their money on Jude Wenner-inspired garbage about Kim Kardashian or some other Hollywood airhead.
 
JW10631 said:
Beck is a Libertarian, not a conservative. Beck has said that he is not opposed to gay marriage. Beck has ripped the GOP as much as he has ripped the Democrats…yet it is always the Left who want to criticize and demonize Beck.

Beck has worked hard to get where he is in life and he hasn’t cheated anyone, to the best of my knowledge.

The real airhheads, ditzes and twits are the bunch from Hollywood, be they writers, actors, movie producers, network executives, etc. That bunch sputs off an opinion about anything and millions (mostly women) gobble it all up. I do a laot of the grocery shopping in our house and I can’t beleive the celebrity based trash that is always for sale in the checkouts. People who eat up that **** are the dangerous ones - not people who listen to Beck or Limbaugh. people who listen to Beck or Limbaugh don’t have the time nore the deisre to waste their money on Jude Wenner-inspired garbage about Kim Kardashian or some other Hollywood airhead.
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Same mentality, different venue.
 
Good_News said:
I can give it a shot. Give me a link to a full transcript of almost any of his radio shows and we can go through it.
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Well if I go by your reasoning in your previous postings here…
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There wouldn’t be much point. If Beck is only an actor putting on a good (or poor) performance, then you couldn’t prove Beck was intelligent or moronic from the transcripts any more then you could prove Errol Flynn was a hero from his performance of Robin Hood or Boris Karloff a villain from his performance in the Black Cat.

You can’t have it both ways. Either his commentary is intelligent enough to be worthy of your scrutiny, or he’s simply a performer putting on a show. If he is a moron, then he’s not worthy of acknowledgment.
 
Good_News said:
Your perception of the political spectrum is misaligned. There is no one to the right ot Keyes or Bachman. If Keyes isn’t fringe, then no one is - which I think is your position.

There have always been several approaches to politics in the Republican party. One persistent divide was illustrated with William Buckley distanced his movement from the Birchers. The Bircher strand is always there, just as the socialist and hippie strands are always in the Democratic party. They just don’t represent the center.

Bush, someone here called centre-right, and I don’t disagree with that. Obama is center left.

My takeaway from this thread is that many people here think that Bachman and Beck speak for mainstream America and are centrists. .
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I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you. Once again, I’m going to use my previous source A Conflict of Visions by Thomas Sowell. Please take the time to investigate this source.

Left wing and right wing originated with the socialist interpretation of politics. Left wing referred to the unconstrained school of socialist theory, while right wing referred to the constrained school of socialism. The schools of thought interpret all political movements as socialistic in nature. What makes a movement socialistic is it’s vision for how society should be. Constrained socialism is very conservative and tradition based. It’s also very patriotic and reveres history and religion. It focuses on the strengths of the common man as opposed to that of the intellectual expert or elite. Unconstrained socialism is very liberal, focused on the future, and believes in the idea of a young intellectual elite. What unites these two idealist visions is the fact that both sides believe that humanity is better off following a system as opposed to the free will of individuals.

In this interpretation of right wing and left wing schools of socialist thought, where does the word centrist come into play? Back in the 1800’s, the last of the great socialist based thinkers was Karl Marx. Marxism combines constrained socialism with unconstrained socialism. Marxism and it’s offspring communism is centrist in the socialist paradigm.

How then did Americans, who are traditionally constitutional in their thinking, and generally opposed to socialist thinking start using the terms right wing and left wing to refer to their unique political system? This is a question everyone needs to ask themselves… especially when they hear that America is centrist and using graph charts like the Nolan chart to prove it. I’m sure that most people don’t mean they are communist when they are actually referring to themselves as members of a constitutionally based republic.

There is a quiet subtlety in language that allows people to say one thing and have others interpret their own meaning from it. We have experienced this with a recent campaign slogan “Change”. Change… transform… revolve… revolution. Let’s not forget Ron Pauls Re-Love-ution. It seems the term revolution was very much in the air during the last campaign.

My scrutiny of Beck is based on how easily Constrained socialism can mimic the image of what most Amercians believe to be patriotism, reverence for God, and belief in the constitutional republic established by Washington, Jefferson, Adams and our other founding fathers.

For the reasons above, I refuse to use the terms right wing or left wing. I think we either believe in the words contained in the Declaration of Independence…
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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…or we don’t. I do not believe man is better off serving a socialistic system, the state, or an intellectual elite.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
Do you think the Holy Spirit may give some advice on social justice to the annointed one? He (gb) seems to have gotten the wrong message. I hope the Holy Spirit clears it all up tomorrow. It’s gong to be a big day.
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A big day indeed when GB and his followers finally get it! Praise God! :extrahappy:
 
CMatt25 said:
There’s far more to life than one issue. Sorry but I find calling the GOP the party of life laughable.
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50 million and counting in the US alone. The Catholic Church is quite clear that this is an issue like no other.
It is not something that is laughable.
 
JW10631 said:
Beck is a Libertarian, not a conservative. Beck has said that he is not opposed to gay marriage. Beck has ripped the GOP as much as he has ripped the Democrats…yet it is always the Left who want to criticize and demonize Beck.

Beck has worked hard to get where he is in life and he hasn’t cheated anyone, to the best of my knowledge.

The real airhheads, ditzes and twits are the bunch from Hollywood, be they writers, actors, movie producers, network executives, etc. That bunch sputs off an opinion about anything and millions (mostly women) gobble it all up. I do a laot of the grocery shopping in our house and I can’t beleive the celebrity based trash that is always for sale in the checkouts. People who eat up that **** are the dangerous ones - not people who listen to Beck or Limbaugh. people who listen to Beck or Limbaugh don’t have the time nore the deisre to waste their money on Jude Wenner-inspired garbage about Kim Kardashian or some other Hollywood airhead.
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Beck is actually quite funny on his radio show. Mostly I was introduced to him by leftists foaming at the mouth against him, mocking his potential blindness, or commercial endorsements, or whatever.
But to listen to his show, there is really a lot of humor. I can see where people might not like that though, being the brunt of his wit. The more they foam, the funnier his wit becomes.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
Same mentality, different venue.
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You can come off as quite obnoxious when you want to.

Too bad, Via, but the most obnoxious people I have ever known have been those on the Left. A lot of your posts put you in that category.
 
Glenn Beck is a victim of racism.

Just like the left says about the Ground Zero mosque Imam.

He’s been accused of being insensitive and insulting for holding his rally based on venue and date, just like the Imam.

The left can play mental twister all they want, just like they do on abortion but it doesn’t hold water.

The left is proving they are racist.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
Personally, I can’t wait to hear what GB has to say. He left his speech notes blank because God will be speaking through him tomorrow, according to him. It will be an amazing thing. I can picture the headlines " God Speaks Through Rodeo Clown" Let’s meet here tomorrow and discuss what God wants America to do. Let freedom ring.
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You write this almost sarcastically as if it were impossible for God to work through people. Why would you scoff at someone who said he wanted to leave it up to him?? This is a sad post from someone who is Christian, IMHO.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
Do you think the Holy Spirit may give some advice on social justice to the annointed one? He (gb) seems to have gotten the wrong message. I hope the Holy Spirit clears it all up tomorrow. It’s gong to be a big day.
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Why wouldn’t He? Who do you think you are??? God works in mysterious ways and works wonder through people, sometimes in the worst of them. Do you remember that God chose SAUL as king??? God’s choice might be that choosing a ‘bad’ person shows that even the ‘bad’ must do his will. Look at God’s choosing St. Paul to be the apostle to the Gentiles after he had persecuted the Christians!

Your posts of sarcasm and doubt are troubling to me.
 
mary_bobo said:
My impression from what I have heard is that it is NOT a political rally. It is about upholding the basic principles of honesty and decency and those things on which the country was founded.
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I am so happy to hear it is about honesty and decency and founding principles…quite appropriate then, that it is NOT political.
 
CMatt25 said:
There’s far more to life than one issue. .
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This is what Catholics who vote pro-abortion come up with when they play mental twister. It’s sad really, that children have to pay the price.😦
 
iamrefreshed said:
This is what Catholics who vote pro-abortion come up with when they play mental twister. It’s sad really, that children have to pay the price.😦
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Being a liberal and a Catholic requires a constant search for rationalizations as to why the Church teachings don’t apply to you or your politics.
 
NOTICE

Please stay on the topic of the original post

Please discuss the issues, not each other
 
Darryl1958 said:
Beck is actually quite funny on his radio show. Mostly I was introduced to him by leftists foaming at the mouth against him, mocking his potential blindness, or commercial endorsements, or whatever.
But to listen to his show, there is really a lot of humor. I can see where people might not like that though, being the brunt of his wit. The more they foam, the funnier his wit becomes.
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Me too.

Because of the opposition to Glenn Beck, I made a point of listening to his radio show one day to learn for myself what he was all about. What I heard sounded fine by me.

It was also thanks to various people who opposed the Tea Party that I went to a Tea Party rally earlier this year, once again, to see for myself what one was like. While I have not become a Tea Party member, I was happy to see that among those who attended were local political candidates who were not afraid to tell you that they’re pro-life. I found that a refreshing change, and will be looking forward to see who the Tea Party endorses in upcoming elections.

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Did anyone else watch it this morning? It was so beautiful. Anyone know about how many people showed up?

And I never knew it said ‘Under God’ on that Lincoln Memoral?! Was it praise God or Under God? He pointed it out and they zoomed in?? Thats kinda cool and he’s right, no one ever says/knows its there…

And Alveta…her speech was DREAMY 😃
 
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