God according to catholics

[gell]

I think we have mentioned MORE THAN 99 times to you, we do NOT have more than 1 name for God.
The trinity is 3 in 1.
But the people who are guided by the false prophet of Muhammed and blinded by the truth cannot see that fact.
I pray that you may understand the truth which is the trinity.
God Bless

A bit harsh and I think you meant “we do not have more than 1 God”.

Calling out his whole faith like you did is an unsubstantiated generalization and does not really contribute to the thread.

 

[ahmadhassan]

As it has been said before, they are not just names.

I was just saying that the Trinity EXPLAINED why God does not want a HANDLE. You can’t put a handle on the Trinity (God).

Muslims circumvent this by giving God more names… the only problem is that each name still actually completely encompasses God.

can you prove in a new thread ?

 

[dolphinlove]

A bit harsh and I think you meant “we do not have more than 1 God”.

Calling out his whole faith like you did is an unsubstantiated generalization and does not really contribute to the thread.

So its ok for them to come on this thread to try and discredit the catholic religion is it?
and no, it was we do not have more than one name for God.
And that was also to mean we do not have more than one God

 

[gell]

So its ok for them to come on this thread to try and discredit the catholic religion is it?
and no, it was we do not have more than one name for God.
And that was also to mean we do not have more than one God

No, but I still think you’re a bit harsh

We have multiple names for God to describe his many facets.

 

[stephanut]

this isnt present in herbew bible of matthew which we depend on to be original even the christ spoke in aramic not herbew

plz seek the truth bec it will set you free ,what if you come in the hereafter and found all what you have been taught and accept blindly isnt true ? its one life then there is heaven or hell so choose your way
do you think christianity answer all your Question? what about ommition and addition to bible ,what about christ who never said worship me or never said i`m God ,not only that but also he prayed to God on the mountain (like muslims ,do ablution and prostrate on the ground ) and he called God and said why he forsaken him

ahmad hasssan,

you’re really pushing it dude. and thanks, you’ve gotten the protestants and catholics united. i’m a non-denom replying here.

the explanations have been laid out for you, it’s up to you to decide whether you want to accept it.

and another thing what makes you think that islam answers all our questions? sorry pal, but i perceived that question as a blatant insult. this is a wonderful relationship with God that we can all enter into because Jesus DIED for us. do you see it now? God came in human form to die so that our sins could be forgiven. So Jesus is God.

if you just wanna pick a fight, please go somewhere else.

 

[dolphinlove]

No, but I still think you’re a bit harsh

We have multiple names for God to describe his many facets.

Harsh is my middle name

And I know that, but I was refering to God as one name, and one name onluy

 

[ahmadhassan]

ahmad hasssan,

you’re really pushing it dude. and thanks, you’ve gotten the protestants and catholics united. i’m a non-denom replying here.

the explanations have been laid out for you, it’s up to you to decide whether you want to accept it.

and another thing what makes you think that islam answers all our questions? sorry pal, but i perceived that question as a blatant insult. this is a wonderful relationship with God that we can all enter into because Jesus DIED for us. do you see it now? God came in human form to die so that our sins could be forgiven. So Jesus is God.

if you just wanna pick a fight, please go somewhere else.

so you say that if christ died then he is God?

 

[TOP]

ahmadhassan,
So you deny the divinity of Jesus Christ? yes or no?

 

[ahmadhassan]

ahmadhassan,
So you deny the divinity of Jesus Christ? yes or no?

christ dont have divinity to be denied, he is servant and messanger of God not anything more

 

[LilyM]

christ dont have divinity to be denied, he is servant and messanger of God not anything more

Many hundreds (if not thousands) of people who knew him personally during his lifetime were willing to die proclaiming their belief that he was God - this is true of no other person EVER. You think all of them were deluded?

 

[ahmadhassan]

Many hundreds (if not thousands) of people who knew him personally during his lifetime were willing to die proclaiming their belief that he was God - this is true of no other person EVER. You think all of them were deluded?

shall i accept christ or accept that ppl eventhough let us see
“Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Matthew 27:46 (NIV)

“I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God”. John 20:17 (KJV)

“When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you" Acts

“Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name. Revelation 3:12-14 (NIV)

if you wanna more i can give you

now prove that he is a prophet

“This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee” Matthew 21:11 (NIV)
"He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people” Luke 24:20 (NIV)
“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me” John 7:16 (KJV)

this is what qur`an say about christ ,its not a proof to you bec you dont believe it but i just tell you what we believe about christ

(translation of the meaning of the qur`an)
5: 116. And (remember) when Allâh will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O ‘Îsâ (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?’ " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen).

61: 6. And (remember) when ‘Îsâ (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you, confirming the Taurât (Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.[1] But when he (Ahmad i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) came to them with clear proofs, they said: “This is plain magic.”[2]

 

[Subrosa]

99 name for same God but
father ,son and holyspirit isnt names or what do you think?

God has only one name which belongs to three people…

Exodus 3:13 “But,” said Moses to God, “when I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ if they ask me, **‘What is his name?’ what am I to tell them?” ****14 **God replied, “I am who am.” Then he added, “This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you.” 15 God spoke further to Moses, "Thus shall you say to the Israelites: The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. "This is my name forever; this is my title for all generations.

John 8:56 Abraham your father rejoiced to see my day; he saw it and was glad. 57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old and you have seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM."

Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus approached and said to them, "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the **name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, **

See? There is only one NAME and it belongs to all three.

Subrosa

 

[stephanut]

so you say that if christ died then he is God?

you know as much as i do that it’s not what i meant, so why ask it?

 

[Subrosa]

ahmadhassan,
So you deny the divinity of Jesus Christ? yes or no?

Hi TOP -

Just to clarify, Ahmad Hassan denies the divinity of Christ. He has to because he is moslem.

Moslems cannot accept that God humbled Himself by becoming human, nor can they accept that God died on the cross. This is a complete affront to them. To a believing moslem, the christian Trinity is polytheistic and violates thier belief in ONE God.

It is a complete misunderstanding of Christian dogma which, apparently, they refuse to accept. It is why they treat christians so poorly. See this thread…

Orthodox Christians Betrayed

Sub

 

[ahmadhassan]

Exodus 3:13 “But,” said Moses to God, “when I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ if they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what am I to tell them?” 14 God replied, “I am who am.” Then he added, “This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you.” 15 God spoke further to Moses, "Thus shall you say to the Israelites: The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. "This is my name forever; this is my title for all generations.

do you say that prophet moses was referring to christ
wake up

John 8:56 Abraham your father rejoiced to see my day; he saw it and was glad. 57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old and you have seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.”

are one in purpose not in personality see
they(jews) misunderstood him and the same did you (christians)
see
john 10: 31Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
they misunderstood him and they thought that he claims divinity
but he tried to explain to them that he isnt God and that they misunderstood him
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’[e]?
that he is just not talking in reality its just a symbol
if it was said that you are gods why dont you let me say that

Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus approached and said to them, "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit,

this isnt present in herbew bible of matthew which we depend on to be original even the christ spoke in aramic not herbew

 

[chet]

translation of the meaning of the qur`an)
5: 116. And (remember) when Allâh will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O ‘Îsâ (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?’ " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen).

61: 6. And (remember) when ‘Îsâ (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you, confirming the Taurât (Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.[1] But when he (Ahmad i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) came to them with clear proofs, they said: “This is plain magic.”[2]

Talk about blind faith.Who heard Allah speak other these words other than Mohammad in his head? Not other companions that he told what he heard,but they themselves heard from the mouth of Allah.

 

[adrift]

this isnt present in herbew bible of matthew which we depend on to be original even the christ spoke in aramic not herbew

plz seek the truth bec it will set you free ,what if you come in the hereafter and found all what you have been taught and accept blindly isnt true ? its one life then there is heaven or hell so choose your way
do you think christianity answer all your Question? what about ommition and addition to bible ,what about christ who never said worship me or never said i`m God ,not only that but also he prayed to God on the mountain (like muslims ,do ablution and prostrate on the ground ) and he called God and said why he forsaken him

This IS in Mathew you have no basis to claim otherwise what you claim is false Again you are wrong Jesus did say He was God. He said I AM. This was addressed in another post. Thomas addressed Him as MY GOD. Jesus did not rebuke Thomas. You know little about the bible but repeat falsehoods that you have blindly accepted as truth.

 

[ahmadhassan]

Talk about blind faith.Who heard Allah speak other these words other than Mohammad in his head? Not other companions that he told what he heard,but they themselves heard from the mouth of Allah.

who heard God when he talked to prophets noah ,abraham, david ,moses )
second ,you assume that christ is God and that all diciples are his prophets ) would you first prove him to be God ,not a man sent by God?

 

[ahmadhassan]

This IS in Mathew you have no basis to claim otherwise what you claim is false Again you are wrong Jesus did say He was God. He said I AM. This was addressed in another post. Thomas addressed Him as MY GOD. Jesus did not rebuke Thomas. You know little about the bible but repeat falsehoods that you have blindly accepted as truth.

prove

 

[chet]

translation of the meaning of the qur`an)
5: 116. And (remember) when Allâh will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O ‘Îsâ (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?’ " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen).

John 5:22-23 "For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

             Either Jesus is wrong or Mohammad is wrong:I believe Jesus.But if they are both profits,one must be false!

John 1:32-34 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God.”

John the Baptist says of Jesus," I testify that this is the Son of God."