Goodbye, St. Louis: Holy Father Tabs Archbishop Burke as Prefect of Apostolic Signatura

[Hijikata]

Frankly, I think he was becoming too controversial and a problem in the US. The Vatican is quitely moving him on so to speak. IMO.

sigh Yeah, getting a red hat soon is ‘quietly’ moving on. The good Archbishop did not get moved to some obscure position in the Roman Curia, no, he is now the Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura; a very important post. Also, what was so controversial with Archbishop Burke? He actually was a pastor of souls with seminaries that haven’t been full in decades over flowing and liturgy how the Second Vatican Council imagined it would be? IMO of course.

 

[wutru]

I’m not sure if that wiki article is accurate, but here’s another description from this website. catholic-hierarchy.org/country/xcur.html

Apostolic Signatura is under the Tribunals section.

General Information

Type of Jurisdiction: Tribunal
Erected: 15th Century
Curial Office
Roman Curia
Description: functions as the supreme tribunal and also ensures that justice in the Church is correctly administered. (Pastor Bonus, 121)
Mailing Address: Palazzo della Cancelleria, 00186 Roma, Piazza della Cancelleria, 1
Telephone: 06.69.88.75.20
Fax: 06.69.88.75.53

Amazing, i noticed it’s already included Archbishop Burke too.

 

[Karl_M]

Speculating can be so much fun…

Dateline Rome: June 2021. “Raymond Leo Burke has been elected as the first American Pope.”

 

[estesbob]

Frankly, I think he was becoming too controversial and a problem in the US. The Vatican is quitely moving him on so to speak. IMO.

I was waintg for someone to claim that. After all thats what they did to Cardinal Law. Of course the difference is Cardinal Law was given a postion who’s main funition is equivalent to making sure there is enough Holy water in the founts in his Church. Archbishop Burke, OTH, has been given one of the most prestigious and powerful postions in the Church. Anyone who thinks this is some sort of demotion or a move to silence the archbishop has no comprehension whatsoever of the hierarchy of the Church.

 

[reganq]

Dateline Rome: June 2021. “Raymond Leo Burke has been elected as the first American Pope.”

Hopefully it will be sooner than that. (And I don’t mean disrespect to our current Holy Father. I am just trying to be realistic with the timeline.)

 

[Teelynn]

:crying::extrahappy:I will mis the good Archbishop! However, God apparently has much bigger plans for him. I pray that our Holy Father will give us another shining example of orthodoxy in our next Archbishop.

for both him and St. Louis

On and aside, I can’t wait to see the backlash from the likes of the Post Dispatch and others.

How true…The Lord God is going to use him BIG TIME. May the Grace of God encompass him in this very important and critical journey. Lord, please replace him with another holy and orthodox leader.

 

[saylo]

**Why do you say this? Because he plays by the ‘rules’ and doesn’t sway??? **

You can tell how effective he is by those that see him as the “enemy.” The schism group in his archdiocese despise the good bishop. That says it all!

 

[Fr.Joe]

A “bittersweet goodbye” indeed. I wish we could have had him here forever! It’s been a fantastic privilege and honor to serve under his leadership.

God bless you Archbishop Burke!

Fr. Joe

 

[Digitonomy]

Dateline Rome: June 2021. “Raymond Leo Burke has been elected as the first American Pope.”

Dream on. As long as the US is a superpower, there will not be an American pope.

 

[LilyM]

Dateline Rome: June 2021. “Raymond Leo Burke has been elected as the first American Pope.”

Noooooooo … at least not until our wonderful Aussie Cardinal George Pell has had his turn! I’d love to see Pelly trotting around Rome in his favourite football scarf (he’s a mad Australian Rules Football fan).

 

[saylo]

St. Malachy’s writings on the Successors to Peter are oftentimes referred to, particularly in these times.

If the lineup is to be as outlined, then (by some interpretations) there will be only two popes to come…one will be an “anti-pope” and will be alined with anti-Christ. Take it or leave it.

Nostradamus has (if you accept some interpretations) said that the pope will flee Rome and seek refuge in a foreign land where the city is a junction for two rivers; there he will be assassinated. The Church will go underground for a time and much persecution will be fraught on the Church. Here the Apocalypse can be sandwiched in as a period of 3 1/2 years.

These things are subject to interpretation and sundry explanations abound.

The last pope will be “Peter the Second” and he will feed his flock until the Savior arrives.

Please, this is NOT doctrine it is merely St. Malachy’s writings as a his perceptions centuries ago.

Take it or leave it…it is theoretical at its best and/or fiction at its worst.

Would be interesting to speculate who fits the description of Peter II. +

 

[estesbob]

Nostradamus has (if you accept some interpretations) said that the pope will** flee Rome and seek refuge in a foreign land where the city is a junction for two rivers**; there he will be assassinated. The Church will go underground for a time and much persecution will be fraught on the Church. Here the Apocalypse can be sandwiched in as a period of 3 1/2 years.

WOW! The Pope is going to move to Kansas City!

 

[reganq]

WOW! The Pope is going to move to Kansas City!

Nahhh, St. Louis. Oh, I know! We could have an I-70 Pope!

 

[estesbob]

Nahhh, St. Louis. Oh, I know! We could have an I-70 Pope!

Well at least we know its going to be in Missoouri!

 

[frommi]

sigh Yeah, getting a red hat soon is ‘quietly’ moving on. The good Archbishop did not get moved to some obscure position in the Roman Curia, no, he is now the Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura; a very important post. Also, what was so controversial with Archbishop Burke? He actually was a pastor of souls with seminaries that haven’t been full in decades over flowing and liturgy how the Second Vatican Council imagined it would be? IMO of course.

It’s not unheard of to move bishops around to places they might be a better ‘fit’ for…Cardinal Szoka was pulled out of Detroit to lead the Vatican City-State when things got so bad in Detroit he needed private security.

However, it would be bold an incorrect to think this is the equivalent of moving a cop off the street and into a desk job.

Frankly, it sounds like a job that is a better ‘fit’ for the archbishop.

 

[Mirror_Mirror]

Frankly, I think he was becoming too controversial and a problem in the US. The Vatican is quitely moving him on so to speak. IMO.

:yawn:

I knew you would be here soon.

Yeah because this is a “demotion” not a “promotion” right?

 

[estesbob]

:yawn:

I knew you would be here soon.

Yeah because this is a “demotion” not a “promotion” right?

For some if Bishop Burke walked on water they would criticize him for not knowing how to swim.

 

[reganq]

For some if Bishop Burke walked on water they would criticize him for not knowing how to swim.

You know, with all of the flooding in the area, that just might be his next step. (Pun intended.)

 

[Mirror_Mirror]

For some if Bishop Burke walked on water they would criticize him for not knowing how to swim.

You know, with all of the flooding in the area, that just might be his next step. (Pun intended.)

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[qui_est_ce]

It’s not unheard of to move bishops around to places they might be a better ‘fit’ for…Cardinal Szoka was pulled out of Detroit to lead the Vatican City-State when things got so bad in Detroit he needed private security.

However, it would be bold an incorrect to think this is the equivalent of moving a cop off the street and into a desk job.

Frankly, it sounds like a job that is a better ‘fit’ for the archbishop.

That’s what a lot of his detractors say. He came to St. Louis to clean up a mess. And he did an excellent job. His detractors were loud, vocal, and uncharitable. Read some of the blogs the STLTODAY.COM comparing him to Hitler. We are having to expand the Seminary because enrollment has doubles since he came here. NINE (9) priests were ordained this year. A few years ago, it was 1 or none.

The St Louis Post Dispatch calls him “controversial.” He is anythig but. What was controversial was the inordinatle number of heresies that cropped up during his tenure. Two women attempting “ordaination” in a Synogogue. A church, St Stanislas Kostka Polish, run by a lay board, refused to comply with Archdiocesan guidelines, **hired **a homosexual priest, Marek Bozek, from another diocese without the permission of the bishop of that diocese (who by the way mentored him in the US due to his ousting from a Polish seminary). Fr Bozek participated in this Womenpriest “ordination.” He advocates open communionn to active homosexuals, nonCatholics, and divorced and remarried Catholics, not annulled. Vocal proponant of embryonic stem cell reasearch supporter Sheryl Crowe hired for a Catholic hospital fundraiser forcing the Archbishop to quit the board. Jesuit St. Louis University basketball coach R. Majerous puplicly promoting abortion and embryonic stem cell research.

I find it ironic that St. Stan’s appealed Archbishop’s Burke’s excommunication of of lay board to the very office that the Archbishop now heads.

All those who are gloating, beware, our next archbishop could be Bishop Braxton of Belleville, former auxilliary bishop of St. Louis.

Those who know the Archibshop personally, espcially the seminarians, love him, and find him to be a very warm and humble man. Unfortunately, many believe the media’s spin on him.