Guilty Pleasures: Favorite Liturgical Abuses

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Desert_82 said:
*The one liturgical abuse I have NEVER understood is the clown mass.

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**Holy Name of Jesus Parish
Indiatlantic, Florida
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They are the winners of another Liturgical Abuse…note the lack of a Crucifix…there is a Risen Christ in the background which does not fufill the requirement and the Altar Boy is carrying a Cross…though he might have it backwards.
 
Scotty PGH:
That picture simply cannot be from a Catholic Mass. I refuse to believe it… :nope:
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I have seen this many times at our own parish. The woman is not a priestess, but a communion distributor. Some time our priest would let them break the host into pieces before communion. I never really liked the idea. The priest is retired now, and we have a more conservative priest, thank God.
 
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Sanctus:
They are the winners of another Liturgical Abuse…note the lack of a Crucifix…there is a Risen Christ in the background which does not fufill the requirement and the Altar Boy is carrying a Cross…though he might have it backwards.
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Why did I know that this took place in Florida, even before I read it. What a farce!
 
Has anyone ever had any success in confronting **** like this? Its not like its hard to grab a GIRM & an RS to back yourself up…

Anyone…?
 
Michael Welter:
My wife and I got kicked out of a parish for asking the pastor to stick to Catholic teaching. The final straw was the Thanksgiving Mass one year. They started with a bunch of native Americans processing in full native dress, pounding drums and doing their dances. Then they had everyone turn to the North and pray to the “Spirit of the north”, then to the South, etc. We refused to participate, standing still. It was awkward when the people in front of us turned to face us, but we didn’t budge. We pointed out to the Pastor later that Scripture says there is One Spirit. He said that he had the authority of the Bishop in his parish, and if we didn’t like it, we had no place in ministry there.

Our new parish is much, much better.
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I admire your courgage here: this is great.
 
I didnt know that making the sign of the cross after the confetior was possibly a liturgical abuse. This is surprising to me because half the congregation at my Church make this gesture. I do and always will. Though I agree with someone who once said that we have to be careful when we say that just because the GIRM doesnt forbid something, that doesnt mean it is allowed or encouraged either.
 
You know what? I thank God for this thread because after reading every bit of it, I appreciate my own parish sooooooo much more. I am in the rural midwest now and parishes here are very conservative just the way I like them!!! I was raised on the east coast but never saw any of the things that are depicted in these pictures, maybe I am just blest to have been in the right places.
 
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joshua1:
I didnt know that making the sign of the cross after the confetior was possibly a liturgical abuse. This is surprising to me because half the congregation at my Church make this gesture. I do and always will. Though I agree with someone who once said that we have to be careful when we say that just because the GIRM doesnt forbid something, that doesnt mean it is allowed or encouraged either.
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I thought the same thing when I read it. But I think the person wasn’t referring to the action as a liturgical abuse; only saying that nobody does it anymore. But it is confusing and misguiding, isn’t it? :o
 
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snow_white:
I thought the same thing when I read it. But I think the person wasn’t referring to the action as a liturgical abuse; only saying that nobody does it anymore. But it is confusing and misguiding, isn’t it? :o
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Whew! I thought for a minute I was doing something wrong by making the sign of the cross at that time!
 
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Sanctus:
They are the winners of another Liturgical Abuse…note the lack of a Crucifix…there is a Risen Christ in the background which does not fufill the requirement and the Altar Boy is carrying a Cross…though he might have it backwards.
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The cross bearer has to carry crucifix? I just ask because I’ve seen many parishes that have done it both ways. I never thought about it though.
 
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snow_white:
I thought the same thing when I read it. But I think the person wasn’t referring to the action as a liturgical abuse; only saying that nobody does it anymore. But it is confusing and misguiding, isn’t it? :o
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I think to say that making the sign of the cross at the confiteor is a liturgical abuse is certainly a gross overstatement. It isn’t called for in the current rubrics of the Mass, and gosh I can’t think of the reason (something to do with the priest no longer using the words “Indulgentiam, + absolutionem, et remissionem peccatorum nostrorum, tributat nobis omnipotens et misericors Dominus.”)

I think when done by laypeople its a very pious custom. I was really only looking for something that would be an “alteration” to the Mass that would no longer be considered necessary to balance out some of the ridiculous “progressive” choices that I put in the survey.
 
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byzmelkite:
Yep, that’s a Jesuit for you. Maybe we should start a petition to Pope Benedict XVI to have the Jesuits permanently supressed.
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No, we can’t supress the Jesuits! What would we do with Father Mitch Pacwa, the best Jesuit in the bunch???:rolleyes:

We can, however, help to get supressed or corrected Clown (or is it Circus) Mass, the sloppy Jeb at what appears to be an outdoor cafe, the George M, Cohan “Yankee Doodle Dandy” 4th of July Mass in another thread, priests who think we need to honor Native American gods, etc.
 
They are the winners of another Liturgical Abuse…note the lack of a Crucifix…there is a Risen Christ in the background which does not fufill the requirement and the Altar Boy is carrying a Cross…though he might have it backwards.

Yes, it looks like your typical wealthy, ugly designed suburban parish…who are embarrased by true Catholicism- so you likely wont find any of those crucifixes, statues, kneeling- its a happy clappy protestantized Mass.
 
That photo of the clown Mass is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. They really do this??? I thank God that I have a wonderful traditional Pastor in a “normal” Parish.
 
Is there a way to email the ‘priest party/clown’ procession to Pope Benedict? I’m sure he’s aware of this kind of abuse, but I wonder if he has seen pictures? This stuff has just got to stop.
 
I think the dancing because how crazy do you have to get to even think of Liturgical dacers. Man o man.
 
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Elzee:
Is there a way to email the ‘priest party/clown’ procession to Pope Benedict? I’m sure he’s aware of this kind of abuse, but I wonder if he has seen pictures? This stuff has just got to stop.
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I don’t know if it is true or not and I know that photos can be doctored but, there are photos on several other web sites, Traditio among them of Papal clown Masses where not only was Pope John Paul II present, but took part. Pope Benedict, then Cardinal Ratzinger, was with the Holy Father most of the time and I am sure, if the photos are valid, that he already knows about them.

It probably should be noted that no action was ever taken to stop them before.

Hopefully now things will be different.
 
Michael Welter:
This is standard practice in my diocese. The Bishop here gave and exemption to consectrate the wine in one large vessel, then pour the prescious wine into smaller vessels for distribution.
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I believe this practice was reprobated in Redemptoris Sacramentum and I doubt the bishop has discretion to override something that was expressly forbidden.
 
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