Guilty Pleasures: Favorite Liturgical Abuses

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Hi all,

I truly can’t stand deviations in the mass but I have been going to Saturday morning devotions at another parish where they have exposition, benediction, then mass. After the prayers of the faithful the priest ask us all to ask our Blessed Mother to pray with us and we all pray the Hail Mary. I don’t think this is proper as no one should add to the Mass but I love it and it seems to fit so perfectly on Saturday morning. If this is wrong, as I suspect it is, I am very torn between wanting priests to be obedient on other issues but not caring about this one. Anyone have any thoughts?

God Bless,
Keith
 
Actually I have 2 favorites:
  1. Not singing or saying the Gloria during the summer Masses so we can get out on the golf course earlier.
  2. Using glass for the Precious Body and Blood AND pouring the Precious Blood into the glass “chalices” after consecration.
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misericordie:
This is a mockery. What pastor who lost his faith would allow this? I would walk out of any “mass” that even got close to this nonsense. THAT’S WHY THE SOLUTION WHICH IS BEST: THE TRIDENTINE INDULT LATIN MASS: THIS IS CATHOLIC!!!
 
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byzmelkite:
Yep, that’s a Jesuit for you. Maybe we should start a petition to Pope Benedict XVI to have the Jesuits permanently supressed.
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Come on seriously, how do you know that? Also, this is unfair to the orthodox catholic REAL Jesuits!!! Such as Father Fessio, and Fr. Mitch Pawkwa.
 
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misericordie:
Come on seriously, how do you know that? Also, this is unfair to the orthodox catholic REAL Jesuits!!! Such as Father Fessio, and Fr. Mitch Pawkwa.
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Also, believe me, working for many DIOCESAN CLERGY!!! As I have, and am NOW, they could be much worse, yes did I mention materialistic and worldy too?
 
I apologize for hogging the thread thingee…

But I just got back from Las Vegas. Was there on a technical seminar google: ddp oism for details ] Side trip to the Nevada Test Site – ate my box lunch about five miles from Area 51. Whoa… (didn’t gamble, but offered thanks for those who were deficient in math and whose losses subsidized my hotel room.)

Anyway, the seminar conference meeting went 12 hours a day Saturday and Sunday, so I played hookey on Sunday morning and walked to a church that I had found on the internet for Mass.

IT WAS MY FIRST NEW AGE MASS. It had all the elements described herein this thread… except for the clowns.

I was not in Kansas any more, Toto.

I was appalled [sp?] Mostly I sat frozen in my seat through the whole thing. Not sure I got “credit” for a Mass. Probably. The altar bread was … unleavened… I think. It was about a quarter inch thick oversized circular thing… soggy in consistency. Like an oversized Pita bread. [Priest didn’t fool around with the words of Consecration… thank God! ]

EVERYBODY held their arms up during the Lord’s Prayer. except me.

Lots of hugging. Jazzy musical tunes.

The HUGE ( one or two gallon capacity) Ceramic Jug of Consecrated Wine making the rounds all throughout Communion so that the EM’s could refill their cups.

The congregation processed up during the offertory to bring their money and groceries.

NO tabernacle, NO kneelers. Holy water was in a mini-waterfall. Assembly stayed standing throughout the Consecration and Communion… You couldn’t kneel because the rows of chairs were too close together.

Before the Gospel the priest carried the Lectionary or Sacramentary (I get the names mixed up) around the “room” and “exposed” the book to the congregation at a half dozen locations so people could bow.

The altar was on an elevated platform in the center and the priest “worked” the altar from both sides.

Gender neutral language at times “Through God, With God, In God” instead of “through Him, With Him, In Him”

After Communion, the EM’s brought the “leftover” Consecrated altar bread and the Consecrated wine to the sacristy… no idea if they consumed the Remains or if “He” got dumped.

And much much more.

It was pretty bad.

When I recounted this to people I learned were Catholic back at the meeting, one said they had gone to Mass at the Cathedral and it had been “kosher”. Another fellow had found a 6:30 am Spanish Mass, but these folks seemed to know their way around the town and I was from New Jersey.
 
Al Masetti:
I apologize for hogging the thread thingee…

But I just got back from Las Vegas. Was there on a technical seminar google: ddp oism for details ] Side trip to the Nevada Test Site – ate my box lunch about five miles from Area 51. Whoa… (didn’t gamble, but offered thanks for those who were deficient in math and whose losses subsidized my hotel room.)

Anyway, the seminar conference meeting went 12 hours a day Saturday and Sunday, so I played hookey on Sunday morning and walked to a church that I had found on the internet for Mass.

IT WAS MY FIRST NEW AGE MASS. It had all the elements described herein this thread… except for the clowns.

I was not in Kansas any more, Toto.

I was appalled [sp?] Mostly I sat frozen in my seat through the whole thing. Not sure I got “credit” for a Mass. Probably. The altar bread was … unleavened… I think. It was about a quarter inch thick oversized circular thing… soggy in consistency. Like an oversized Pita bread. [Priest didn’t fool around with the words of Consecration… thank God! ]

EVERYBODY held their arms up during the Lord’s Prayer. except me.

Lots of hugging. Jazzy musical tunes.

The HUGE ( one or two gallon capacity) Ceramic Jug of Consecrated Wine making the rounds all throughout Communion so that the EM’s could refill their cups.

The congregation processed up during the offertory to bring their money and groceries.

NO tabernacle, NO kneelers. Holy water was in a mini-waterfall. Assembly stayed standing throughout the Consecration and Communion… You couldn’t kneel because the rows of chairs were too close together.

Before the Gospel the priest carried the Lectionary or Sacramentary (I get the names mixed up) around the “room” and “exposed” the book to the congregation at a half dozen locations so people could bow.

The altar was on an elevated platform in the center and the priest “worked” the altar from both sides.

Gender neutral language at times “Through God, With God, In God” instead of “through Him, With Him, In Him”

After Communion, the EM’s brought the “leftover” Consecrated altar bread and the Consecrated wine to the sacristy… no idea if they consumed the Remains or if “He” got dumped.

And much much more.

It was pretty bad.

When I recounted this to people I learned were Catholic back at the meeting, one said they had gone to Mass at the Cathedral and it had been “kosher”. Another fellow had found a 6:30 am Spanish Mass, but these folks seemed to know their way around the town and I was from New Jersey.
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This is not a mass it’s a joke if what you mention here is accurate. I would have walked out if the building structure even looked half of what you describe because that in itself usually says something already as well as the altar girls, the army of EXTRAORDINARY ministers of Holy Communion. Also the tabernacle to the side and the famous electric candles.
 
I’m normally no fan of liturgical abuse, but to be honest I wouldn’t be complaining if the priest put in a few “supressed” Tridentine Mass elements.
 
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LCMS_No_More:
Um…no, it’s definitely NOT a Catholic Mass. The priest is lacking the chasuble. Protestant pastors who wear vestments tend to forego the chasuble and only wear the alb, cincture and stole, so it has to be some sort of protestant communion service.
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Actually, I attended a Mass today where the priest only wore a stole and no chasubule. I knew something wasn’t right with that . . .
 
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A2SciTeach:
Actually I have 2 favorites:
  1. Not singing or saying the Gloria during the summer Masses so we can get out on the golf course earlier.
  2. Using glass for the Precious Body and Blood AND pouring the Precious Blood into the glass “chalices” after consecration.
    :cool:
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#1 I have not witnessed, but I have seen #2. We actually sent a letter to the priest and he said that this was nothing to loose sleep over. I have also recently witnessed a lot of parishoners retrieving the sacred host from the tabernacle instead of the priest. :eek:
 
The Masses I attended in Mexico and here at home do the “striking the breast” during the “my own fault” part.

I believe that reverence for our Lord during Mass is critical and that clown Mass is showing great disrespect. Maybe sometimes people don’t know better on certain issues, but that clown circus is ridiculous.

Who are they caring about in that Mass? God or themselves? Is the face paint that important?

The parish I go to has some things I’m not too sure I like. But I wouldn’t say they were big abuses. Like we hold hands during the “Our Father” and music plays. It took some getting used to, but it’s still a bit weird.
 
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BlueRain:
The Masses I attended in Mexico and here at home do the “striking the breast” during the “my own fault” part.
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Although I haven’t seen it in a lot of places, as far as I know striking the breast is still very much part of the Novus Ordo Mass’s Confiteor.

Whether it’s for one or three times is up for interpretation!
 
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MaryAgnes:
I’ve heard of this but never seen it … Does anyone know which one is the priest? :hmmm:
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Must be the one in the striped shirt. You can tell it’s ordinary time because of the green collar.
 
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pnewton:
Must be the one in the striped shirt. You can tell it’s ordinary time because of the green collar.
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Surely you jest! The priest is usually the last one in the recessional … Perhaps the priest is not pictured.
 
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pnewton:
Must be the one in the striped shirt. You can tell it’s ordinary time because of the green collar.
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A little investigation and I found out this was NOT a “Clown Mass” at all. It was the community’s way of celebrating their annual ministry fair.

How sad it was misrepresented in this forum! 😦

Check it out:
hnj.org/hnj/Min_Fair.html
 
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MaryAgnes:
A little investigation and I found out this was NOT a “Clown Mass” at all. It was the community’s way of celebrating their annual ministry fair.

How sad it was misrepresented in this forum! 😦

Check it out:
hnj.org/hnj/Min_Fair.html
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I am impressed with your skills. I had heard the myth of the cheesehead Mass debunked, but I hadn’t heard this one. My hats off.:tiphat:
 
Thank you for putting this to rest. I was very afraid that we had fallen so far in our worship of our Lord that our mass had become a (pardon the pun) circus.
I long for the mass the way it was when I was a child. We do have an orthodox parish in Marble Falls so we don’t need to worry about this type of abuse. It concerns me that so many parishes seem to be failing to follow the proper form for worship.
I pray that Pope Benedict VI will restore the mass to its original beauty and meaning.
maggiec
 
Ms. Maryagnes,

It does not matter what it was that was being celebrated.
This kind of circus should not be held inside the church.
A church is for the sacrifice of the mass - not clowns.

Sincerely,
Walking_Home
 
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