Guilty Spouse Confessing Adultery

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Emotional affairs are worse in many ways than sexual encounters.

If you have a married couple and the wife is confiding in another male, seeing him for lunch, takinghis advice in preference to the husbands advice. quoting the friend as if he is special in every way.

Seeing him at work, having jokes at lunch with him, doing everything short of making love to him. Is really an affair of the “heart” The scriptures make it clear that looking at another person to lust after them is committing adultery in ones heart. Tell me those of you who advocate telling. Do you advocate telling a spouse that , “by the** way honey I looked at that girl over there and made love to her in my mind”? **Or the lady who looks at her favourite movie/pop star and fancies him, does she/he confess this?

If we want to get pedantic about this then maybe we ought to confess every thought that is against our spouse at any time on any subject. I wonder how many more divorces there would be?
I think you’re splitting hairs here a bit, you’re comparing a man having a fleeting impure thought about say a wifes friend, repenting and moving on with another man bedding and penetrating your wife??? Come on now a little common sense goes a long way in these discussions.

As for emotional affairs yes they too should be confessed as people can fall in love prior to consumating, in fact this is the way it’s supposed to be, so yes emotional affairs are wrong and need to be confessed. But does every single dirty thought that pops into your head need to be? Of course not.
 
it’s just a matter of patience. No need to cheat! If you are no longer attracted to your spouse **then you really didn’t love your spouse because that means the only reason you married was because of lust, or sexual attraction nothing more, and that hurts as well! **

I totally agree on this one when my wife left me, she said I was no good in bed , or that I wasn’t doing it enough. I always thought that love was more than sex, much more. I am a cuddling sort of person who doesnt have to have sex every time I get close. I think my wife married me to legalise her lustful thoughts. When she didnt get enough she found someone else.

I feel that sex over stressed these days. and companionship not nearly emphasised enough.
 
Give her the chance to praise you for your confession. This could make your marriage 10x better. As a result you both my have the Lord inside and could become a couple who with faith…overcame a great obstacle.

Do you not want to be die knowing you have no secrets? If you confess with love and the grace of the Holy Spirit. You will overcome it.

Tell her, pray for her…and prove to her how much you love her. If you can not do that, then you may not be in the right marriage.
 
it’s just a matter of patience. No need to cheat! If you are no longer attracted to your spouse **then you really didn’t love your spouse because that means the only reason you married was because of lust, or sexual attraction nothing more, and that hurts as well! **

I totally agree on this one when my wife left me, she said I was no good in bed , or that I wasn’t doing it enough. I always thought that love was more than sex, much more. I am a cuddling sort of person who doesnt have to have sex every time I get close. I think my wife married me to legalise her lustful thoughts. When she didnt get enough she found someone else.

I feel that sex over stressed these days. and companionship not nearly emphasised enough.
I agree with you…But at the same time if you think about it, many times a woman is initiating something is usually because she wants to have a baby…For example, my sister wanted to have a baby several years ago, so she would do romantic stuff for her hubby, and it wouldn’t attract him…She would tell me how horrible she felt and this woman is a good looking well kept woman very attractive, they had 1 child but she wanted a second, and her hubby was not interested. I advised her to ask about fantasies he might have and go from there…So they got into crazy things, together, but it made him want to sleep with her so she did whatever she had to to please him and doing it often got her pg…

It wasn’t for the lust it was to have a baby…And at the same time have fun together!

But there are others that just lust like a lot of men I know lust too…My ex was full of lust and it was hard to fight it, I was demanded whenever he wanted, and it was difficult. I had to take pills to get my libido going because he would complain to the world about me! And all I wanted was to make love to get pg…And every pg he would mistreat me because he didn’t want children!!! 😦
 
Do you not want to be die knowing you have no secrets?
This is exactly what I want. One of my greatest desires. All will be known in the afterlife anyway.

BTW, I confess fleeting thoughts about others to my husband, that I don’t even mention in Confession because of no willingness on my part, making it a temptation and not a sin, and he does the same. We don’t judge each other because we know we are humans and will be tempted. We share this with each other for the sake of maintaining honesty and openness in our marriage.

REAL emotional affairs should be confessed too, both to the spouse and to a priest. They can be even more harmful to a marriage than a spouse’s one-night-stand.
 
I can sympathise with all points raised thus far.

I dont agree with adultery, let me make that clear.🙂 However from a few angles Not telling makes a lot of sense, not just for the one who is guilty, but for the ones who would be devastated where the facts to be known.
The devastation comes from the adultery, not from the telling. That is what causes the pain in the first place. It is easy to predict the short-term consequences of telling, but it’s harder to predict the long-term consequences of not telling. And let’s be clear: secrets hurt.
Looking at the wisdom of King Solomon, who offered to cut the baby in two so each woman who claimed to be mother of the baby could have half each, the real mother backing down and saying let the other woman have the baby, Solomon descerning the real mother would rather let the baby go than have it killed. Maybe the wisdom of Solomon here would be to quietly repent by the guilty.
Solomon’s wisdom was not in his actual ruling, but in his fact-finding. He offered to have the baby cut in order to hear the real mother give up the child so no harm would happen to it. And when he did, he gave the child to the real mother and there was nothing extraordinary in that ruling at that point. In the telling vs not telling case, we do not have a comparable problem.
Perhaps punishment ought to meted out in some way to the guilty party. maybe the priest could prescribe a penance that would tax the wrong doer sufficiently that he or she would have learned a lesson.
That would certainly help, but would not remove the fact that there existed a dark secret for 40 years or so.
However if confession were made to the spouse, the Innocent children would be scarred maybe irrevocably if the parents were to have a war, a divorce, or perhaps no divorce but long years of incriminations and recriminations.
Will children not be hurt by a dark secret? What if the dark secret turns the marital happiness into a lie, will then it not hurt the children?
ending in dysfunctional family resentment for the guilty one by the other.
In my view, the guilty spouse is in no position to judge the innocent spouse’s capacity to forgive, let alone judge it in advance, without allowing the innocent spouse to take a position in the matter.
Child psychologists, delinquencies, self esteeem problems in the children in later life.
Too far-fetched. One theory of fact-finding in court cases is proximate cause. The proximate cause is a normal, foreseeable resut of a given action. If you throw a cigarette into a barn and it burns, that’s a proximate cause. If the whole village somehow manages to burn, that was not a proximate cause. Fact-finding refers to the past or the present, not to the future. If we make the necessary adjustment, however, and apply a similar principle to judging the potential consequences of our actions in the future, we will draw a line between what’s a normal consequence of our actions or what is foreseeable to happen as a result, and what is just guessing and hypothetical scenarios that don’t need to happen.
All because the other spouse has a right to have justice.
Justice is important. Let us not sweep justice under the carpet. Charity trumps justice, but convenience does not.
If the guilty has resolved to try never to re offend, and is prayerfully sorry in his or her heart, then things can work out. It is true that it doesn’t get away from the fact that an adultery has occured. But God who forgives all, will be the judge. and lets face it, there is not one of us who has not, and indeed does not sin each and every day in some way or other.
Yes, but the spouse doesn’t need to know that we were mean to a co-worker, called a lousy driver a couple of names, came late to work or failed to show patience to a student or some other subordinate. The example that you describe is ideal in the sense that it relies on a presumption that not-telling happens as a result of concern for the other spouse’s and children’s well-being and not of fear of the psouse’s reaction. However, if the world were ideal, then firstly, the innocent spouse would be ideally forgiving as much as the not-telling spouse would be contrite and concerned for others, secondly, there would be no cheating anyway. What is more, in most situations, the innocent spouse is the stronger one in character. If the guilty spouse is able (hypothetically) selflessly to deal with the cheating on his own, then the spouse who did not cheat should be, as a rule, able to forgive selflessly as well. This is not a flawless rule, but simply indicates a certain probability.
I think it was Paul who said, he that is guilty of one part of the law is guilty of the whole. and again our Lord said “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”
That doesn’t give rise to saying that the spouse who kicked the dog also cheated.
We are as mortals predisposed to exposing those who do wrong, I think however we need to be a little more compassionate and understand how difficult it is to confess,
So that’s the deal? After all we’ve got to the poor situation of the one who cheated rather than the concern for the innocent spouse’s hurt feelings after learning of betrayal.
and in some cases emotionally impossible for some to confess, but that doesnt mean there is no sorrow and resolution to make amends.
There is no such thing as emotional impossibility.

“Emotionally impossible to confess,” is not selfless and is not concerned for the other spouse’s feelings. You cannot at the same time argue that not-telling is selfless because it protects the innocent spouse’s feelings, and explain that it would be too much to expect the cheating one to tell because of the emotional distress caused by such a confession. There is a stark contradiction there.
 
Emotional affairs are worse in many ways than sexual encounters.

If you have a married couple and the wife is confiding in another male, seeing him for lunch, takinghis advice in preference to the husbands advice. quoting the friend as if he is special in every way.

Seeing him at work, having jokes at lunch with him, doing everything short of making love to him. Is really an affair of the “heart” The scriptures make it clear that looking at another person to lust after them is committing adultery in ones heart. Tell me those of you who advocate telling. Do you advocate telling a spouse that , “by the** way honey I looked at that girl over there and made love to her in my mind”? **Or the lady who looks at her favourite movie/pop star and fancies him, does she/he confess this?
Firstly, putting stress on the weight of emotional affairs should not serve to take weight away from actual, physical cheating.

Secondly, a relationship in which sexual relations occur most of the time involves at least certain aspects of what you describe as an emotional affair. An emotional affair with sex (i.e. the typical affair) cannot possibly be worse than an emotional affair without sex.

This leaves us with the conclusion that an only an affair which is “just sex”, no strings attached, is not as bad as an emotional affair without cheating.

To the above I reply that I am not so sure I would prefer my hypothetical wife to have a one night stand over a sexless affair in which she went too far emotionally. I think I would actually prefer the latter to happen.

Secondly, there is no clear connection between what you refer to as an, “affair of the heart,” and the, “adultery in one’s heart,” from the Gospel. In your example, the heart is the emotion. In the Biblical example, the heart is the internal sphere of a man. The difference is not visible at first glance, but it is there. I believe the parallel was too hasty.

There is also no parallel between a man making love to a woman in his mind and a woman “fancying” an actor. If you fancy someone, you do not imagine making love to him. We cannot put a woman’s admiration of some kind, albeit improper, on the same level with outright sexual fantasies.

Finally, I do not advocate the telling of every instance of adultery in one’s heart to the spouse. That would go too far.
If we want to get pedantic about this then maybe we ought to confess every thought that is against our spouse at any time on any subject. I wonder how many more divorces there would be?
There is a difference between confessing every thought like, “I would appreciate if you took a bath,” or, “Will that woman ever stop yelling,” and confessing adultery.

The fact that telling all this would be pedantic doesn’t mean that telling about adultery would be pedantic. Pedantry is exaggeration. Telling about every single less than charitable thought is on a much higher level of exaggeration than telling about adultery. The difference is clear.
 
it’s just a matter of patience. No need to cheat! If you are no longer attracted to your spouse **then you really didn’t love your spouse because that means the only reason you married was because of lust, or sexual attraction nothing more, and that hurts as well! **

I totally agree on this one when my wife left me, she said I was no good in bed , or that I wasn’t doing it enough. I always thought that love was more than sex, much more. I am a cuddling sort of person who doesnt have to have sex every time I get close. I think my wife married me to legalise her lustful thoughts. When she didnt get enough she found someone else.

I feel that sex over stressed these days. and companionship not nearly emphasised enough.
Jrobert,

Know that your wife said those things because she needed some way to justify her actions not because they were true. Active wayward spouses will always re-write the marriage history to justify their disgusting actions. Otherwise, they must take responsibility for the filth they willingly mired themselves in.

Blaming you eases her guilt. Don’t believe it!
 
I believe hurtful or not that the spouse definitely should be told. I don’t know if those of you who say that the spouse should not be told, have never been in this situation on the receiving end. Let me tell everyone from first hand experience that the truth should be told, furthermore the spouse who cheated should have been honest about their feelings prior to the actual physical cheating, maybe this would have prevented it altogether. I have found out now years later and had he not told me I most likely was going to find out in another way. He didn’t tell me until years later all due to “coincidences” where I may have encountered the other woman and my daughter now an adult was going to “hang out” with the other woman’s son! I encountered many experiences where I most likely would have seen her or in my case was ready to contact her before I found out and that was just by reason of association like, work and/or friendship in my daughter’s case as well.

Bottom line is that even though I am now carrying the burden, and my kids of what he did, because he told…well guess what…his actions due to his hiding this all these years has taken a toll on our marriage and that of our kids and how we were as parents. Either way, you pay trust me I know. I don’t think that it should be kept a secret, I can’t believe people think that is okay. I get angry every time I read that or hear that. When you are in a marriage you owe it to that person to be honest at whatever cost, otherwise you are living a lie and you not your spouse and you are deciding how to run the marriage. That is not a marriage at all. I am certain that God would not smile upon dishonesty, because as humans (counseling or not), we have emotions that will come out whether we hide things or not.
I think it is diminishing the cheated on spouse’s integrity to say “Don’t tell them” that’s as nasty as what the spouse has done.
 
Caveat: this is my personal opinion only.

Only tell on yourself if you have acquired some kind of disease that would be passed on to your spouse that would make them wonder why you are avoiding having sex with them - or if you have fathered/given birth to a child that is not your spouse’s child. (Or if your lover is going to blackmail you.)

Otherwise, repent quietly, return to your spouse, and amend your ways without discussing the subject. Nothing good can come of talking about it - just get your act together and become the good spouse you meant to be when you got married in the first place.
as the offended spouse in this situation i completely disagree with this advice. i knew in my gut what happened and i had blinders on and if he had never come clean it would have destroyed us. honesty saved my marriage.
 
I believe hurtful or not that the spouse definitely should be told. I don’t know if those of you who say that the spouse should not be told, have never been in this situation on the receiving end. Let me tell everyone from first hand experience that the truth should be told, furthermore the spouse who cheated should have been honest about their feelings prior to the actual physical cheating, maybe this would have prevented it altogether. I have found out now years later and had he not told me I most likely was going to find out in another way. He didn’t tell me until years later all due to “coincidences” where I may have encountered the other woman and my daughter now an adult was going to “hang out” with the other woman’s son! I encountered many experiences where I most likely would have seen her or in my case was ready to contact her before I found out and that was just by reason of association like, work and/or friendship in my daughter’s case as well.

Bottom line is that even though I am now carrying the burden, and my kids of what he did, because he told…well guess what…his actions due to his hiding this all these years has taken a toll on our marriage and that of our kids and how we were as parents. Either way, you pay trust me I know. I don’t think that it should be kept a secret, I can’t believe people think that is okay. I get angry every time I read that or hear that. When you are in a marriage you owe it to that person to be honest at whatever cost, otherwise you are living a lie and you not your spouse and you are deciding how to run the marriage. That is not a marriage at all. I am certain that God would not smile upon dishonesty, because as humans (counseling or not), we have emotions that will come out whether we hide things or not.
I think it is diminishing the cheated on spouse’s integrity to say “Don’t tell them” that’s as nasty as what the spouse has done.
ditto… the burden!!! Pain!!! Prayers for everyone in this situation.
 
as the offended spouse in this situation i completely disagree with this advice. i knew in my gut what happened and i had blinders on and if he had never come clean it would have destroyed us. honesty saved my marriage.
Completely agree with you… I’m glad it saved your marriage. Still waiting and praying for my marriage.
 
Is a spouse who has committed adultery obliged to tell his/her spouse?

The reasons why and why not and the Church’s stance if any.
He/she is absolutely morally obliged.
No question about it.
Some single voices say no because it would hurt the betrayed spouse to know about it. But the cheating spouse should have thought about that before cheating.
 
If you don’t tell your spouse about a huge sin that you’ve committed, doesn’t that mean that you don’t have trust that they will forgive you?

Doesn’t that mean that you don’t trust in their ability to love “until death do us part”?

Yes, it would hurt the spouse terribly, but it would also provide a great opportunity for them to learn a HUGE lesson about forgiveness. They would learn a whole lot about how merciful God is towards them.

This is all a hope- a hope that if you were to cheat on your wife (or husband) that they would be given the grace to forgive you. If not, then what is the foundation of the marriage? On fake feelings of “things going well and seeming right?” That’s a lie, though.

If you do cheat, tell your spouse. But first, pray for them, and pray for them a lot. That they would be given the grace to forgive you, and that it would give them even MORE trust in you- trust that you can tell them ANYTHING, even something as terrible as adultery.
 
When Jesus forgave sins, it is not recorded that he asked the sinners to confess to those they had sinned against.

First step must be to be reconciled with God and his Church by making a good confession.

Then follow the advice of one’s confessor.

If one feels prompted in themselves to confess to one’s spouse, one should seek the counsel of one’s confessor and pray for strength, and then follow the counsel given.

Should the offended spouse ask, the offending spouse should come clean (after a good confession and prayer).
 
I would want to know.

I would feel more like a fool to find out 20 years later, than to be told up front and to make a decision to forgive.

I think it’s cowardly to not tell. To supposedly save the spouse from hurt feelings? Give me a break. The cheater sure wasn’t thinking of the spouses feelings when they were having sex with someone else.
 
I would want to know.
If you are married now let your spouse know that if he/she cheated, you would want to know. If you are not, and are engaged, I think at some point you/your affianced have to discuss what would happen in the event of infidelity.
I would feel more like a fool to find out 20 years later, than to be told up front and to make a decision to forgive.
A follower of Christ has no choice but to forgive and to forgive immediately and whole-heartedly no matter the hurt, the humiliation, pain, etc. Remember also the Lord’s prayer: ‘forgive us our trespasses…’
I think it’s cowardly to not tell. To supposedly save the spouse from hurt feelings? Give me a break. The cheater sure wasn’t thinking of the spouses feelings when they were having sex with someone else.
I lean toward telling but I have come to conclude that there appears to be no mandate from God nor from His Church for the guilty spouse to confess to the injured spouse.

Not all truth needs to be known or told unless a greater Good requires it. That’s why I say first confession, spiritual guidance, and then proceed from there.

Sooner or later, everything does come to light.
 
Here’s why I believe they absolutely SHOULD tell…

This isn’t, “Oh honey, I had an impure thought about Giada De Laurentiis,” or, “Oh, honey, I dropped the f-bomb because a jerk cut me off on my way to work.”

No, this is sinning against your spouse…in a way that can put your spouse at risk for life threatening diseases and other complications…Even though a baby is a blessing, what if a baby resulted from the affair? What if the non-offending spouse got HIV? What if the paramour didn’t want to let go (even if the offending spouse was trying to make amends) and ended up stalking the family?

All I’m saying is, if my husband cheated, but came clean, took us both to the doctor and was willing (not just by words but by ACTIONS) to work on our marriage, I’d welcome him back home with open arms. But, if I found out that he was cheating (and I tend to find these things out), and he didn’t come clean, he’s out the door. I don’t care if I have to live a celibate lifestyle till one of us died. He’s out. Because that is a huge lie (of omission) and, not only that, that’s a lie that can put my life at risk (especially considering I live in a place with a very high AIDS rate).

This has nothing to do with the seal of Confession or with wanting to “relieve guilt”…I’m sorry, he hurt me already by committing the act and he can’t shield me from the fallout…or himself.

C.S. Lewis said the most Christian thing a murderer could do was turn himself in to be hanged. Yes, the murderer may have repented in private and gained forgiveness from the Almighty…but he still has a debt to pay to society and consequences to face from his actions.
 
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