While civil liability can be applied to sellers and manufacturers of nearly every product, as a result of a 2005 law the gun industry is immune from nearly all lawsuits.
But that is not what the 2005 Stated.
Are you advocating for a total gun ban? Where are you going with this? I certainly don’t want to be in a position where I don’t have a gun when I need it because someone somewhere may shoot themselves with their own gun. Plenty of people kill themselves with rope and sleeping pills. I can’t help what others do.
Yes i might get killed by friendly fire, but chances are far better I will take out the active shooter before he kills 50 more innocencts. Who better to have already ON SCENE than a firearm trained defender while the police are ten miles away? I’ll take that risk anytime even if it does get me taken out. Again, what better gift than to lay down your life for others? What do you think God will say to such a warrior who saved a grade school full of kids, or a mall packed with seniors?
Ok, and when you are in a mall, theater, school etc and you hear pop, pop, pop, followed by screams and the air is full of blood and brain matter I happen to think the last resource has arrived. Are you saying I am wrong? Or would you prefer I say to the gun wielding person "please Mr. Terrorist or Mr. Psyco let us pray together and I will council you on why it is not nice to kill 100 people you don’t know. " Really? Your comments are ridiculous!
I actually laugh when I see “Gun free zone” or “no firearms allowed in this store” signs. The notices and signs are not worth the paper they are on. Out west in areas where good old boys drive around with rifles and shotguns mounted to their pickups are the safest ares. It is the SOFT targets like Gun Free Zones that are hit.
I seriously doubt that our society will chose a total gun ban. But if we did, that would be our choice as a society, and the members of that society would have to live with it. There might be people - in fact, I’m certain there would be people - who would disagree with the choice - as you have done here. But that is the nature of all communal decisions. There isn’t a single law or regulation in the US that someone wishes were not there. So your citing your personal opposition to the decision is not sufficient to convince everyone else to change their minds. But as I said, this is all highly hypothetical, because such a decision is extremely unlikely in this nation.LilyM:
Are you advocating for a total gun ban? Where are you going with this? I certainly don’t want to be in a position where I don’t have a gun when I need it because someone somewhere may shoot themselves with their own gun.
Good luck with the State of Jefferson.
The last estimate I saw is that there are at least 357 million guns in America. And fortunately the good people at companies like Colt, Smith and Wesson, Glock, etc keep making more every day. If a block of idiots got together and banned all guns what would happen? Law abiding citizens who registered their guns would have them confiscated. So the criminals who, of coarse, did not turn in their firearms will then victimize the innocent. Thus is what Nazi storm troopers did to the unarmed German public.
It is on a side note, ( excuse me , friends…) but I did as you suggested and dogs really diminished the problem drastically with armadillos.
As the Nazi Party rose to power in Germany, it inherited a 1928 gun registration law that had replaced a total ban on gun ownership imposed on a defeated Germany after World War I. The 1928 law created a permit system to own and sell firearms and ammunition. So the first act of the Nazis was to loosen gun restrictions. The Nazis adopted a new gun law in 1938. According to an analysis by Bernard Harcour, a professor at Columbia University School of Law, it loosened gun ownership rules in several ways. It deregulated the buying and selling of rifles, shotguns and ammunition. It made handguns easier to own by allowing anyone with a hunting license to buy, sell or carry one at any time. (You didn’t need to be hunting.) It also extended the permit period from one year to three and gave local officials more discretion in letting people under 18 get a gun.
Most of that is drug gang activity. It’s tragic when an innocent kid is caught in the middle occasionally, but I am fine with Crips taking out Bloods or vice versa. I certainly have no dog in that fight.
Yeah I found the article you copied on the net too. The anti gun lobby will slant things any way they can. The truth is Hitler’s goal was to disarm people especially the Jewish community.
And what if you take out some innocent people accidentally (for example during cross-fire) ? What if you slow down the police response because when they arrive they do not know who the active shooter is and who is the good guy “street vigilante” ? And as a result more innocent people die. I do not think God will say “Well done warrior !” Video games and movies make it seem great and easy, but the real life traumatizing events of mass shooting is another thing.
I am saying as the Church does that the mentality of shooting first and asking questions later is leading toward more violence and gun related deaths and injuries, not less. More guns = more violence as simple as that. It is laughable to think under such circumstances armed “good” civilians will do better than highly trained police officers who do full-time training.
If that was the case why, was then military installations such as Fort Hood and a Washington Navy yard attacked by a gunman they obviously knew there would be plenty of “good” guys with weapons to defend the innocent, however a lot of innocent people died. Gun free zones follow the same basic principle, the more guns allowed in one place the more likely for things to go horribly “wrong”.
Do you think Jesus is fine with it?
No, I didn’t. I said that if I did die following Christ, I would be in good company.
So, any article that does not agree with your view of history is slanted by the gun lobby, but your article from the Mises Institute is unbiased?
You can “what if” all you want, but the most likely scenerio is that since I am already on scene I will be the first to engage the shooter or shooters. If I don’t have a good shot, eg. Innocents in the way I won’t take it. If I do have an open shot the shooter is dead. Yeah I am that sure.
Yeah, because law abiding citizens are not armed in these soft targets. If you are in a building with an active shooter what good is your gun if it’s in your car in the parking lot?
Wow, EVERY single thing you said above is wrong. Please tell me what “questions” you need to ask while Innocents are being killed? No, you need to act and shoot the bad guys. You have no idea of what you are talking about.
Again you are not listening. As I have said when seconds count the police are minutes away. Think about that. And actually many police budgets are small. Some departments only qualify once a year.
Your lack of knowledge is amazing! The military is NOT ALLOWED to be armed while on base. They depend on military police just like any citizen.
I think just like everything else that occurs in the world Jesus hopes we will do the right thing but we have free will. Personally I have never shed a tear over gang wars. However, my point was that most of the gunplay you cited was due to gang activity not law abiding citizens shooting up the town.
And I asked you if that fate is also fine for your loved ones. What about a class room full of innocent kids? What about a mall full of helpless senior citizens? I am asking you LeafByNiggle if you could arm yourself and kill a would be terrorist, or general psycotic who is actively killing Innocents like above would you do it?
Great point. And I think all natives in any city know where these areas are and avoid them.