Guns and ineffective laws to control

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How can you lock everyone up? There are not just a few but millions on these medications?
 
Is “everyone” criminally insane? How did we used to diagnose this?
 
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There are all kinds of things that could be done but there is a concerted effort to eliminate the right to own and bear firearms. And the things we should be doing don’t get done. Whether people want to accept it or not our country is close to the tipping point of a second civil war or revolution. I for one have no intention of surrendering my freedoms. Not sure why so many people in our country believe why everything from a doctor’s visit to a roll of toilet paper is a right because one lives in the United States. Every thing in my house cost me something to acquire and when I don’t have the money I have to do without. I go to work and take care of people who will never spend a dime to take care of themselves because they are absolutely convinced they have the right to run up a hospital bill in the 10’s of thousands to dry them out from the alcohol they don’t think twice about buying. They have housing assistance, grocery assistance and checks from the state because they don’t “make” enough money. What they do make they waste on 6 dollar a pack cigarettes and alcohol or meth. Our country is broke. PERIOD! And unless the Lord returns we will collapse. We are past human solutions. Just heard this kid this morning driving into work blaming Trump for what happened at his school. How Trump hasn’t passed one bill to help mental health. He was terrible at reading his script that was probably fed him by his parents or msnbc. I’m not even sympathetic for these people anymore. If you think for one minute the millenials are going to be capable of defending anything other than the iPhone or Xbox good luck. The N. Koreans will mow them down while they sniffle about LBGTQXYZ misundertoodeness. We have to be saved as a nation by an act of God or we are simply doomed!
 
One is six takes psychiatric pills according to the internet. Criminally insane is tough to prove. One doctor will say yes another will say no.
 
I on’t think we are doomed. I see this as Gods world. As a posted posted, God allows nothing, unless something good comes out of it. Our role as humans is to do our part
 
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armed security at schools, special glass, escorting anyone who comes in.
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There was a guy I heard from Texas and they have a number of their teachers train with firearms. They are unknown and the numbers are unknown. They are armed (concealed) and capable of helping stave off anything like this from happening. Implemented at schools farther out where no help can arrive within enough time. This is his idea, it is not a plan of action in place.
 
These kids are smarter than you are, and a lot less hysterical-- despite just having 17 of their friends taken from them by a gun-wielding crazy person.

The Lord said that we should love one another, and should not kill each other. Guns are tools for putting holes in other living things, in this case people. These tools cannot contribute to the goals God laid out for us.

How is the Lord going to feel if he returns and you point a submachine gun at him for walking on your front lawn? I’m guessing-- not very sympathetic toward you or those like you. Good luck with your rage, your anger, and your resentment.
 
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How is the Lord going to feel if he returns and you point a submachine gun at him for walking on your front lawn? I’m guessing-- not very sympathetic toward you or those like you.
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I don’t point guns at people, you obviously miss the point.
 
The point is very simple. Guns are a tool of destruction, and the lives of other human beings have not been put on the Earth by God for you to destroy them. Jesus brought a message of peace, and you want to put the American constitution above the Bible so we can keep our society flooded with these tools. Shame on you if you really call yourself Christian!
 
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We may not be doing enough for the mentally ill and I have no problem doing more hospitalization but many of these young people are already being seen by doctors. This kid certainly was and yet no one thought to not allow him to have a gun. There was a breakdown because the mother died.

We have guns in our house which my husband controls. They are basic guns.We have a deer rifle but you have to shoot them one at a time.
 
Excuse me chief, I’ve never pointed a gun and never shot a gun at anyone. Your stupidity doesn’t even tempt me.
 
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Good thing God never advocated military means to achieve goals and commanded his people to fight wars. Otherwise your point would make no sense.
 
Good thing you don’t have access to the New Testament and to the Gospels of Jesus Christ, or neither would yours.
 
The handguns and rifles sold to civilians in the US are definitely NOT the reason we can sit and enjoy our debate. They are the reason that every couple weeks we hear of another school where young people’s lives are taken. You can spin it or rationalize it, or blame whoever you want, but in countries with fewer guns, there are a lot less people killed violently-- and I don’t think this should come as a surprise to anyone.

I should mention that it’s not an either/or. Of course you want to treat the mentally ill; you want to reduce drug use; you want to stop bullying. But none of these efforts require us to avoid regulating firearms. The Lord wants peace, and so we should strive by all means, and without equivocation or yarn-spinning, to keep peace.
 
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Not advocating taking away guns, just a stricter requirement for those under age 21.but only in conjunction with other safe measures at schools such as more armed guards, or armed teachers (female as well as male) and mandatory set of procedures.

Any school being built should be required to look at this.
 
There was never a school shooting when I was in school and kids had guns hanging in racks in their trucks. Guns are not the problem. People are. You don’t want them have at it. But if I have to use mine I will be sure to save my grains for a second amendment avocate.
 
We had prayer in school too but things have changed. People are the problem but a few make it everyone problem
 
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We have a right from God to private property. To defend that property we have also been given the right to defend it. Having the right to defend it means access to the tools of defense. Guns. There is no stack of bodies high to justify stripping that right from people.
 
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