Guns and ineffective laws to control

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If hundreds and hundreds of young people are killed with hammers, then we should control the purchase of hammers.

The fact is that shooting is a much more efficient way of killing than anything else except bombs or chemical weapons. You can get a 150-lb kid to mow through tons of biomass in a few minutes, and you have rooms full of people’s children bleeding out onto their classroom floors.

It’s still a very simple formula-- guns are a tool for punching holes through people, which often kills them. If it is our goal to avoid the death of ourselves and others, then we should not allow that tool to be easily obtained.
 
Yeah, you should read the Bible more, and stop pretending that the American constitution is a good substitute for it. Or maybe you’ve confused the words “turn the other cheek” with “shoot them until they are dead.” Apparently a lot of people have trouble with that subtle difference.

Do you think Jesus was a huge advocate of property ownership and the rights to defend your stuff?
 
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There are some who want to take guns away. I am not one.

This is an issue of what age do we allow young people to obtain not a gun or knife but a type of gun that can do great deal of damage in a very short time,

You are right that it opens the door and it is hard to close once open.
 
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I’ll be sure to let the Church know they have it wrong.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

Legitimate defense

2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one’s own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not."65

2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one’s own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:
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If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.66
2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility.
 
I love to try this first,armed security, armed teachers, escorts for everyone and let’s see if it helps.

This kid was tricky as he knew to go at a time when there would be 3000 kids getting out.
txhere was an armed deputy sheriff at the school but he never confronted the kid so they need three or more depending on size of school.
 
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Those measures are costly, hard to implement, and effectively turn schools into prisons. It’s a tragic thing, but statistically irrelevant when compared overall. It’s just an excuse for people to use the blood of kids to push a political agenda.
 
The FBI knew about this kid for crying out loud. But hey let’s look at Trump and the Russian connection
 
We waste money everywhere. FBI needs to also be held accountable.
 
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I personally feel that’s a bit unnecessary, but if it makes you feel better go for it. I’ve worn a kevlar vest a few times they’re very heavy and uncomfortable. Can’t imagine a backpack being much better.
 
Exodus 20:13 four simple words, all encompassing. And you believe you can come up with something better? Show me.
 
Absolutely not.

Implied in “You shall not murder” is the idea that you will neither incite others to commit murder, nor provide them with the tools for doing so.

But yes, I can give something better: “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.”
 
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You do not “legitimately hold authority,” unless you are a police officer or a soldier. The things you are quoting say it’s okay to defend-- it does not say it’s okay to flood the society with tools of murder in order that a small percentage of them might defend against those self-same tools.
 
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I think we need to ask ourselves what was the shooter experiencing at his workplace at the Dollar General that could have triggered all this?
 
I am almost certain this kid was under surveillance. But not 24/7 surveillance.
 
We can’t solve every mental illness. We don’t know what the shooter was feeling but we know we have workplace shootings. We also have shooters who kill like the one in Las Vegas, an older man with no reason that can be found.

We know that the school shooters are usually affliated with the school somehow and young. Under surveillance for what and by whom?
 
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We also have shooters who kill like the one in Las Vegas, an older man with no reason that can be found.
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Oh I believe there was a reason, but that it’s not being shared because it doesn’t fit the narrative the gun control crowd wants push.
 
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