Guys I'm upset: My cousin pastor wrote a HARSH piece on the Catholic Church (sex abuse)

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somecanadian said:
I can name countless married men who have abused children.
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Can you name one married priest who has been accused of molesting children? There are 17000 victims of unmarried priests in the USA alone since 1950 according to the US bishops?
 
Were you aware there ARE married Latin priests? I don’t know since they haven’t released information on each priest that has been accused that I’ve tracked up to find out if they’re one of the married ones.

BUT, I DO know that the majority of sexual abusers outside the Church are married so I see no reason marriage would somehow change anything. Look up the stats. I think you’ll be surprised.

PS: On bed rest because of pregnancy complications today so my English probably isn’t great. A bit loopy right now.
 
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It’s become clearly apparent that that particular poster is attempting to use CAF to advance an agenda, a clear violation of forum rules.
 
Pretty sure it happens in the Eastern rite too. Just doesn’t get as much attention.

A quick google search:

www.cleveland19.com

Sex Abuse Allegations Filed Against Eastern-Rite Catholic Diocese

Three men have filed suit against the Byzantine Catholic Diocese of Parma, saying that they were repeatedly abused by a priest in the late 1970s.
www.cleveland19.com www.cleveland19.com

Read through the names, there are Eastern Rite priests on the list: Catholic Church Sex Abuse Scandals | The Canadian Encyclopedia

www.nj.com

Byzantine Catholic priest who made sexually suggestive videos defrocked over abuse claims

Glenn Davidowich has been expelled from the priesthood in the Byzantine Catholic Church following sex abuse claims against him
www.nj.com www.nj.com

So yeah… happens in the Eastern Rite too. Not on the same scale but obviously the ability to marry doesn’t stop abuse.
 
somecanadian said:
Saying celibacy causes sexual abuse is saying that men who cannot have sex will rape children. It’s unfair, untrue and just gross sexism.
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In fact, research has shown that the rate of offending is higher for married clergy.

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He specified married clergy. My father definitely wasn’t a priest. But he was married. And he looooved little girls.

I’m not sure how married + priest suddenly equals = no abuse. But married + not a priest = abuse.

Not seeing how they figure there’s a difference.

But I just posted links to several Eastern rite priests who were also abusers. And I’m sure there’s more I just didn’t dig deeper.
 
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somecanadian said:
When I was Protestant, Protestant ministers were practically worshiped. People would leave their church if the pastor left. Some would even follow pastors around.
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I had the same experience. We had a particular pastor we didn’t care for so would leave after Sunday School and go home and watch Jerry Falwell on TV. We liked the old fashioned hymns rather that the new ones at church. Looking back - this was so wrong. Many churches fell apart when the pastor left, and many would split off and start their own church.
 
PJH_74 said:
Does it matter one way or another? All of the Doctors of the Church are saints so whether official or de facto this is the case.
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Well, technically speaking, yes it does matter! There are plenty of people, male and female, who have made notable contributions to the Church, whether it’s theology or otherwise, who are not canonized! To say that people are canonized for their theological contributions ignores the single reason for their canonization: their sanctity. If people are canonized for their theological thoughts, does that not put a barrier between those who are not intellectual between them and Sainthood?

You didn’t say Doctors of the Church. You said canonized. While related, those two things have very different implications.
 
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Jezra said:
What you are not seeing is that the secular world is increasingly moral and ethical. The secular world gave us human rights laws. The Church did not. Laws to protect from slavery and racism were passed by secular governments, not the Church. Laws to protect from discrimination on the basis of gender, disability, sexual orientation, religious belief and ethnicity are not the work of the Church, but the secular world.
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The secular world did not give us either the concept of common law, of natural law, nor of natural human rights. Catholic scholars and moral ethicists gave us all of those.


Your historical narrative needs updating from the commonly held and largely false narrative to modern credible scholarship.
 
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