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I recall that his conversion was assisted by art, catechized through masterpieces.
from *Thoughts in Solitude*
You bring up good points. Thank you, Jim, and thanks to everyone who responded here. Since he died so unexpectedly, it is entirely too easy to speculate about where Merton’s interest in Eastern religions might have taken him. As you say, the most persuasive indications I can see - his own actions and the testimony of those who actually knew him - lead me to believe Merton would have remained both a Catholic and a Cistercian. I am always struck by the tension in his life, a tension he freely chose to accept: He had so many interests, ideas, and aspirations, but he constantly sought to be obedient to his abbot. This theme seems to run through everything he did. It led to frustration at times, still he remained obedient to his religious superiors. But sadly, we will never know for sure, so speculation and mistrust will likely continue in some way or other.I don’t trust the Catholic Answers article on Thomas Merton very much as they distort much of what he wrote, through their authors own misunderstanding.
During his time, Thomas Merton, like other leaders of Contemplative Orders, followed the request of Pope Paul VI that they begin dialogue with the spiritual masters of Eastern Religions, in order to understand why young Catholics were leaving the Church, for the East.
This is why Thomas Merton became well versed in Buddhism and wrote about the parallels found in Christianity, but also the differences. Some Catholics can’t handle this approach, …fine, it wasn’t written for them in the first place.
He did not become a Buddhist and in fact, he never lost his faith in Jesus Christ or the Trappist Order which he served until his death.
The CAF author has problems because Merton used the word, “Mantra,” in describing repeated prayer, such as saying the Jesus Prayer or the Rosary. Fact is, used as they should be, they are for the same purpose as a mantra.
It’s the CAF author’s own misunderstanding and fear that a term that is not Catholic, like “Mantra,” was used. But it’s a misunderstanding of both the word mantra and interior prayer in the Catholic tradition.
As I stated before, all but I believe two works by Thomas Merton, had the Church’s Imprimatur.
You can trust Thomas Merton’s writings as much as you can Fulton Sheen’s.
Whether Merton’s works feed you spiritually or not, will depend on your own spiritual disposition.
Not everyone is meant to follow Merton’s works, just as not everyone is meant to follow Scott Hahn’s. These things are left up to following the will of God in your life and allowing him to bring you to where He knows you will be fed best.
Jim
Indeed, some people don’t trust interreligious dialogue, and some of us are just cautious with what we allow into our minds and souls.And let’s be honest, a lot of people simply do not trust interreligious dialogue in general, so Merton’s legacy will always be viewed with suspicion by some.
My advice (Dan speaking now)? The Church is in no way lacking in solid and perfectly trustworthy writings on the spiritual life. I personally don’t know why anyone would want to carefully sift through this kind of literature when it is clear that Merton had serious moral issues even during the his “orthodox” period. It seems a bit like sifting through the refuse at the back of a good restaurant. You will no doubt find much that is of nutritional value, he was indeed a talented writer, but why not just go take your seat at the table for the best and purest meals available? I would encourage you to stick with the spiritual doctors of the Church. To name a few, the writings of St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, St. Catherine of Siena and St. Francis de Sales will more than meet your needs for spiritual guidance and you need not worry that you might be led down a path that leads away from the Heart of the Church.
PS: I recognize that many have found that, through Merton’s writings, they have grown to more fully love and serve Christ. My thoughts here don’t in any way deny that reality or possibility. My intent here is to answer the question asked by the reader. The fact that God uses many means and instruments, including very flawed instruments, to lead people to Himself is assumed and appreciated in a very personal
Guess I’m just not interested in being such a fanatic of any particular author – well, unless it’s JK Rowling or Rick Riordan
Serious moral issues? Is good Mr. Burke talking sex here, or is he privy to some other knowledge about which he can only be vague? It is no secret that Merton fathered a child out of wedlock before his conversion, and that he had an affair with a woman later in life. The affair he did not seek out - he was in hospital and she was his nurse. In both cases, he was open and honest with his religious superiors, and with their blessing, he remained true to his vocation. In fact, everything he did - the writing, the traveling, etc. - was only done with the blessing of his religious superiors.Indeed, some people don’t trust interreligious dialogue, and some of us are just cautious with what we allow into our minds and souls.
OK, I don’t usually let someone else speak for me, but Dan Burke sums up my thoughts better than I could myself in his excellent post at SpiritualDirection.com. [Click the link to read the full (short) article.] He responds to a question about Thomas Merton and spiritual direction:
Guess I’m just not interested in being such a fanatic of any particular author – well, unless it’s JK Rowling or Rick RiordanI’m more interested in growing in holiness in a way I feel is safe from leading me astray. Loving Merton’s works as much as so many here – for ME at least – might lead me to so love the man behind them that I would move beyond his orthodox writings and into some dangerous gray areas. Been there, done that, not opening that door again
God bless you!
Gertie
And this is where we can use some reflection on what holiness is in our daily lives. I think this is where Merton excelled, inspiring that reflection.I’m more interested in growing in holiness in a way I feel is safe from leading me astray.
Now you see the reason for why you thought Merton might have been censored or banned here at CAFNobody has to read Merton if he doesn’t appeal to them. Or comment on a thread that holds no intrinsic interest for them.
Thanks for reminding us that Thomas Merton was born a century ago, christofirst, and I liked that comparison to Martin Scorsese! Merton comes across in recordings as very quick-witted and an agile thinker, which must have helped him when he was working with novices.
Wow, I never said anything about being scandalized by the writings of sinners, and my own past reads like something out of St. Augustine’s Confessions. It’s all grade, dude, it’s all grace. Just because I don’t fall in line with the pro-Merton group here, that’s no reason to start attacking my character.If you are scandalized by reading the words of people who have sinned, you had better stop reading any of my posts here, and the Bible too, for that matter. Heaven forbid either you or Mr. Burke should have to “sift through garbage” (what a disgusting way to put it!).
Instead of getting bent out of shape, please take note of the title of the thread.Wow, I never said anything about being scandalized by the writings of sinners, and my own past reads like something out of St. Augustine’s Confessions. It’s all grade, dude, it’s all grace. Just because I don’t fall in line with the pro-Merton group here, that’s no reason to start attacking my character.
As for why I ever bothered posting in this thread in the first place, well, it occurred to me that CAF is a place for open and respectful discussions, even with people you don’t agree with. Your thread prompted me to take a look at a man and his works that I had only previously associated with – how did I put it? – anti-Magisterium, pro-women-priests, pro-abortion Catholics.
Please be fair to me as well. Since first posting here, and because of the posts of others like you, I have done some research – outside of reading your own opinions. Sorry if not every Catholic theologian on the planet agrees with your assessment of Merton, but that’s hardly my faultAnd what exactly Burke is referring to is none of my business, seeing as I’m not interested in researching any man’s sins. I also have read enough at this point to know that I won’t be reading any of Merton’s writings, any more than I’ll be searching out video recordings of John Corapi, or trying to figure out the state of his soul.
Because of my years of being first a cafeteria-Catholic, and then actually leaving the Church for some 14 years or so, I have a definite prejudice against Catholic spiritual writings that may – in any way – be misleading.
And before you jump all over me, let me make it clear that I rarely EVER read any spiritual writings by anyone other than Church-declared Saints. That’s my bias, and it’s also my strategy for protecting my mind and my soul. And whenever anyone asks me about good reading material, I always point out works by those same authors, without apology to current, more popular writers.I just wouldn’t want it on my soul if I recommended writings that are not backed by the Church and a holy life – because often, liking someone’s writings leads to wanting to know more about the person and wanting to emulate that person’s life. And in the spiritual life, because we are talking about matters of the soul and eternity, I just think there’s no room for playing around.
So with respect to all y’all, and praying that God has mercy on Merton’s soul (and all the faithful departed), I gotta get back to reading John, Teresa, and Augustine
God bless you!
Gertie
O.K. You don’t want to read Merton, and you want us all to know it. Mission accomplishedWow, I never said anything about being scandalized by the writings of sinners, and my own past reads like something out of St. Augustine’s Confessions. It’s all grade, dude, it’s all grace. Just because I don’t fall in line with the pro-Merton group here, that’s no reason to start attacking my character.
As for why I ever bothered posting in this thread in the first place, well, it occurred to me that CAF is a place for open and respectful discussions, even with people you don’t agree with. Your thread prompted me to take a look at a man and his works that I had only previously associated with – how did I put it? – anti-Magisterium, pro-women-priests, pro-abortion Catholics.
Please be fair to me as well. Since first posting here, and because of the posts of others like you, I have done some research – outside of reading your own opinions. Sorry if not every Catholic theologian on the planet agrees with your assessment of Merton, but that’s hardly my faultAnd what exactly Burke is referring to is none of my business, seeing as I’m not interested in researching any man’s sins. I also have read enough at this point to know that I won’t be reading any of Merton’s writings, any more than I’ll be searching out video recordings of John Corapi, or trying to figure out the state of his soul.
Because of my years of being first a cafeteria-Catholic, and then actually leaving the Church for some 14 years or so, I have a definite prejudice against Catholic spiritual writings that may – in any way – be misleading.
And before you jump all over me, let me make it clear that I rarely EVER read any spiritual writings by anyone other than Church-declared Saints. That’s my bias, and it’s also my strategy for protecting my mind and my soul. And whenever anyone asks me about good reading material, I always point out works by those same authors, without apology to current, more popular writers.I just wouldn’t want it on my soul if I recommended writings that are not backed by the Church and a holy life – because often, liking someone’s writings leads to wanting to know more about the person and wanting to emulate that person’s life. And in the spiritual life, because we are talking about matters of the soul and eternity, I just think there’s no room for playing around.
So with respect to all y’all, and praying that God has mercy on Merton’s soul (and all the faithful departed), I gotta get back to reading John, Teresa, and Augustine
God bless you!
Gertie
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Hi Mary,I’d be more than happy to contribute to a thread on St John of the Cross or St Teresa of Avila. It has always depressed me to find those who are so keen on policing the orthodoxy of others haven’t read or studied what they consider to be orthodox writings.
I just want to get back to what Michael Mayo was saying about the influence on Merton of Catholic art and architecture. His parents were artists: the New Zealand painter Owen Merton and his American mother Ruth, also an artist who exhibited in Provincetown and London, and Thomas Merton had a fine aesthetic sense as well as a wonderful eye for composition. He was always drawn to the simplicity and purity of the greatest Catholic artists. From 1951 onwards we find the young Merton struggling with issues of morality and art, music, beauty in the service of truth etc, and in his later essay on Art and Morality, he pointed beyond the contemporary concern with art as a cultic object or end in itself, pointing beyond to Thomist understandings of the greater good and purpose of art in rendering visible justice to God’s created universe.
On entering Gethsemani, Merton began to study St Bernard’s innovations in Cistercian architecture, in that Bernard was one of those who supported the move from ponderous 12th-century Norman architecture to the high arches and airy pointed ceilings of Gothic architecture, “making masonry fly”.
Many of us interested in ekphrasis – the reading of art as a form of communication – have much to learn from Merton.
“Let me seek, then, the gift of silence, and poverty, and solitude, where everything I touch is turned into prayer: where the sky is my prayer, the birds are my prayer, the wind in the trees is my prayer, for God is all in all.“To enter into the realm of contemplation, one must in a certain sense die: but this death is in fact the entrance into a higher life. It is a death for the sake of life, which leaves behind all that we can know or treasure as life, as thought, as experience as joy, as being. [Every form of intuition and experience] die to be born again on a higher level of life.”
― Thomas Merton, New Seeds of Contemplation
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