Happy Feast of Christ the King!

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AJV said:
Did any places celebrating Christ the King on Sunday sing the hymn “Te saeculorum Principem”?
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We did - one of my favorites. Here’s the bulletin from Sunday, the last half of it has the mass propers and the “extras” after the mass: institute-christ-king.org/stlouis2/documents/websiteSFdsBulletin10-28-07_000.pdf
AJV said:
Is Christ the King the main feast of the ICRSS or do they have a more specific feast (perhaps explicitly naming the Priesthood) as their titular feast?
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I think this is the main one as far as the titular feat. But the Institute’s co-patrons are St. Thomas Aquainis, St. Francis de Sales and St. Benedict…their feast days are significant there as well. There is also a strong devotion and connection to Our Lady under the title of Immaculate Conception, as I believe the Institute is consecrated specifically to her.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
 
thecoach said:
trolling and attempting to bait? try reading the tone of your fellow traditionalists. childish is having people do your thinking for you, childish in being unable to use logic to see when a dichotomy exists. I have neither problem, you seem to have those issues.
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Sorry thecoach, any observer reading this thread can see that those of a “traditonalist” mindset were nothing but charitable and patient from the outset, until your provocation went a bit too far.

Although I am mindful of my duty to speak with charity as far as I am able, I also think that a bit of fraternal correction is in order here. So, in that spirit I say to you that
thecoach said:
Thank you all for helping me make my decision to fully leave.
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IS quite childish. The good people on this thread have nothing to do with your own decision. To either a)try to garner sympathy or b) try to instill guilt or c) try pass the buck for your own choices is the height of childish behavior.

VC
 
Verbum_Caro said:
Sorry thecoach, any observer reading this thread can see that those of a “traditonalist” mindset were nothing but charitable and patient from the outset, until your provocation went a bit too far.

Although I am mindful of my duty to speak with charity as far as I am able, I also think that a bit of fraternal correction is in order here. So, in that spirit I say to you that
IS quite childish. The good people on this thread have nothing to do with your own decision. To either a)try to garner sympathy or b) try to instill guilt or c) try pass the buck for your own choices is the height of childish behavior.

VC
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hardly. fraternal correction being the point, perhaps you should point out to your conferes the importance of good example. Childish is having the only response being “the Pope said so”. Logic seems to have no home here. Save your correction for your own.
 
Neil_Anthony said:
You’re going to disobey the Lord and leave his church because you don’t like the people in the traditionalist forum on a website?
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Prove I am disobeying? What about the disobedience marked as hypocrisy and dichotomy by traditionalists? I will worry about my soul and its relation to the Lord, thanks. You should do the same.
 
lak611 said:
That’s terrific! I like how the bulletin has the Mass propers and other prayers. If I ever visit St. Louis, I know where I will go to Mass. It looks like your parish is great, just from reading the bulletin.
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Thanks! And please do visit if you can. It’s a blessing to live so close by.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
 
DustinsDad said:
Thanks! And please do visit if you can. It’s a blessing to live so close by.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
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I don’t have any plans to visit St. Louis any time in the near future, but if I do, I will go to Mass at your parish. 🙂
 
This issue is tied in with the rather curious historical reality that from at least c. 1570, when Pius V CODIFIED (not created) the Roman Missal, until c. 1970, when Paul VI promulgated his Missal (created in sections by committee…Benedict XVI has said “fabricated”)…there was an understanding that liturgical diversity…EVEN within the one Roman Rite…was enriching.

There has been a rather odd development since c. 1970, namely that the badge of union and obedience is everyone doing exactly the same thing.

Does it really matter that some Roman Catholics celebrate the Feast of Christ the King on October whatever, and others on November whatever? Nope. The Church…in her richness…allows both practices.

The Roman Rite has 2 universal calendars…an ordinary one and an extraordinary one. That’s been true since 14 September, 2007. “Thecoach” needs to update his liturgical knowledge.
 
thecoach said:
trolling and attempting to bait? try reading the tone of your fellow traditionalists. childish is having people do your thinking for you, childish in being unable to use logic to see when a dichotomy exists. I have neither problem, you seem to have those issues.
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:harp:
 
Some of you (and by “some” of you I mean one of you) seem to be under the impression that we are bound to attend the Novus Ordo and follow the new calendar.

We never were, nor are we now bound to follow either. Therefore, one cannot be obedient to the Church, or disobedient to the Church, in this matter.

The case is closed. All of you should go take a hot shower or make yourself some Ovaltine, or SOMETHING.

Semper fi.
 
havemercy said:
Some of you (and by “some” of you I mean one of you) seem to be under the impression that we are bound to attend the Novus Ordo and follow the new calendar.

We never were, nor are we now bound to follow either. Therefore, one cannot be obedient to the Church, or disobedient to the Church, in this matter.

The case is closed. All of you should go take a hot shower or make yourself some Ovaltine, or SOMETHING.

Semper fi.
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It is also perfectly fine to attend the TLM on the last Sunday of October and the NO on November 25 and celebrate the Feast of Christ the King twice, if one so desires.
 
lak611 said:
It is also perfectly fine to attend the TLM on the last Sunday of October and the NO on November 25 and celebrate the Feast of Christ the King twice, if one so desires.
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I’m thinking of picking and choosing my calendar every day to make EVERY day a feast day!

:rotfl:
 
Ordinary form = Last Sunday of Ordinary Time
Extraordinary form = Last Sunday of October
Both forms = **ONE ROMAN RITE **

:tsktsk: End of Debate!
 
The feast of Christ the King was established by Pope Pius XI. His logic in the choice of the last Sunday in October was that it would always be in the same week as All Saints and All Souls. A three day time of grace. Beautiful and logical. Especially in countries where “All Saints” is as celebrated as Christmas. Schools in France closed for a week.
The NO has its logic too. End the Liturgical year with the feast of Christ the King.
There is a problem here only for those who want a problem.
 
DustinsDad said:
I think this is the main one as far as the titular feat. But the Institute’s co-patrons are St. Thomas Aquainis, St. Francis de Sales and St. Benedict…their feast days are significant there as well. There is also a strong devotion and connection to Our Lady under the title of Immaculate Conception, as I believe the Institute is consecrated specifically to her.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
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Thanks, DustinsDad
 
estesbob said:
On my Calendar every day is Christmas…
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Monty Python would agree with that astute comment:

"It’s Christmas in Heaven.
All the children sing.
It’s Christmas in Heaven.
Hark. Hark. Those church bells ring.

It’s Christmas in Heaven.
The snow falls from the sky,
But it’s nice and warm, and everyone
Looks smart and wears a tie.

It’s Christmas in Heaven.
There’s great films on TV:
‘The Sound of Music’ twice an hour
And ‘Jaws’ One, Two, and Three.

There’s gifts for all the family.
There’s toiletries and trains.
There’s Sony Walkman Headphone sets
And the latest video games.

It’s Christmas! It’s Christmas in Heaven!
Hip hip hip hip hip hooray!
Every single day
Is Christmas day!.."

It’s Christmas! It’s Christmas in Heaven!
Hip hip hip hip hip hooray!
Every single day
Is Christmas day!

To get the full effect you need to see the clip - there’s about a three minute skit first which is hilarious and worth watching
 
havemercy said:
Some of you (and by “some” of you I mean one of you) seem to be under the impression that we are bound to attend the Novus Ordo and follow the new calendar.

We never were, nor are we now bound to follow either. Therefore, one cannot be obedient to the Church, or disobedient to the Church, in this matter.

The case is closed. All of you should go take a hot shower or make yourself some Ovaltine, or SOMETHING.

Semper fi.
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You are not bound to follow what the church provides? hmm, interesting? bound to follow neither? so are you saying you are not bound to attend Mass at all?
 
thecoach said:
You are not bound to follow what the church provides? hmm, interesting? bound to follow neither? so are you saying you are not bound to attend Mass at all?
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The Church also provides the TLM and Eastern Liturgies, both of which are every bit as venerable and legitimate as the NO. By your logic you’re bound to attend the TLM and Eastern DLs - and to follow their calendars.
 
thecoach said:
You are not bound to follow what the church provides? hmm, interesting? bound to follow neither? so are you saying you are not bound to attend Mass at all?
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thecoach,

Let me first say that I know that your concern is one of caring and affection for your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ and therefore please do not interpret anything I say next as an attack on you.

That said, I respectfully do not understand why you don’t understand this issue of the calendars. The pope has said that both the new *and *old calendars are equally valid and acceptable. Those here who follow the old calendar, by the Holy Father’s generous approval, do not deny the validity of the new calendar. They just prefer the old, and Pope Benedict has said that this is a completely OK and good option for Catholics. Both calendars are equally valid and acceptable.

Pax tecum.
 
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