Harry Potter and exorcists

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Sorry (not really) to be a buzzkill to all of the CAF members who like Harry Potter but it’s time to stop reading the novels. It opens a path to possession. You may of heard Fr. Ripperger give a sermon about it and dismissed it, but you need to take this stuff seriously. Here is a video from another exorcist that is talking about harry potter.


15:32 is where he gets into harry. I literally will be burning the three harry potter books I have.
 
Fr. Amorth didn’t care for the books either. When they came out my Barnes and Noble had them on display next to all sorts of occult books. So everyone knows where they belong…
 
Yep, no thanks! Harry Potter doesn’t cause possesion. I will be holding onto my books and movies.

The spells that they say aren’t even close to real. They are made up words to sound good.

I will say this though, if your conscience isn’t clear then steer clear as whatever isn’t done in faith is considered a sin.
 
@dallas_r you’d be amazed with the amount of stuff out there beyond Harry Potter. [Have we seen anyone criticize traditional Anglo-Saxon leprechauns and fairies and the likes…?]
 
None of these priests seem to know much about the actual books. I’m very familiar with the texts…there is nothing related to the Occult. Consider the following:
  1. The spells are made up silly Latin-ish words. There are no real incantations. These priests have never been able to provide an example because they simply aren’t familiar with the actual books.
  2. The wizards of the Potter world are magical beings using natural abilities. It’s very key to the plot that ordinary children CAN’T do magic… Harry is special. You are born a wizard. There are no spirits or invocations involved.
  3. The author, Rowling, comes from a Presbyterian background and explicitly stated that there are Christian allegorical elements in the novels. If you have read the last (seventh) book this is abundantly clear: Harry becomes a Christ figure who sacrifices himself for his friends, rises again, after which the Dark Lord has no power over his friends.
  4. The author has explicitly stated that Wiccanism has no place in her fantasy world. Yet Scripture is quoted in the novels more than once!
Explain all of these points with actual references to the novels to back up these claims and I will listen. So far, every time it comes up, the only argument is an appeal to authority. There are priests who are totally fine with Potter so I can appeal to authority too. By itself that is not an argument.
I suspect that a certain small number of kids got curious about the occult after reading Potter - could have been anything though - and opened themselves up to evil forces.
 
I didn’t bother reading them because they were kids’ books and I wasn’t interested in them. The only questionable aspect of them I noted was the profusion of weird online fan groups who got into drawing and writing Harry Potter porn. That was just plain gross.

There’s been fairy-tale books with witches and wizards going clear back to King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. Also tons of occult movies including The Exorcist. It’s called “entertainment” and if one has a strong relationship with Jesus Christ and is not getting overly absorbed in the subject matter, it’s nothing to worry about.
 
dallas_r said:
Sorry (not really) to be a buzzkill to all of the CAF members who like Harry Potter but it’s time to stop reading the novels. It opens a path to possession. You may of heard Fr. Ripperger give a sermon about it and dismissed it, but you need to take this stuff seriously. Here is a video from another exorcist that is talking about harry potter.
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Do you really want Catholicism to die in America and become a total laughingstock?

Continue on crusading against Harry Potter.

Unbelievable.
 
twf said:
  1. The spells
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Are spells.
twf said:
  1. You are born a wizard…
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No one is born a wizard.
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  1. ordinary children CAN’T do magic
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Yes they can, and adults too.
twf said:
  1. Harry becomes a Christ figure
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This alone mixed with magic is distasteful [countless secular authors (psychiatrists included) have criticized the potential negative implications.]
twf said:
  1. Wiccanism has no place
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Magic, occult, superstition and magical thinking does.
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  1. Yet Scripture is quoted
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Dangerous sects have done the same.

Sorry @twf I repudiate the rational of those arguments.
 
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Harry Potter is not a sect, it’s a fictional book with fictional characters set up on a fictional premise.
 
What? No, no. They mean in the context of the story and world of Harry Potter.
 
The story about children going into another world through a closet isn’t aimed at children? I mean, that book was assigned reading when I was in 5th grade.
 
Rhubarb said:
They mean in the context
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Demonic elements are not dependent on context.
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I mean, that book was assigned reading when I was in 5th grade.
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I’ll give a respectful shout out to @teek and reference to her thread, do leave a like:
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Yes Father in the video touched on the stuff in the similar section by the harry potter books.
 
I don’t recall sexual content in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Unless you’re sexually aroused by turkish delight. And anyone who objects to the Chronicles of Narnia being in schools needs to go soak their head.

And again, you’re missing the point. tfw was saying that inside the novels, there isn’t witchcraft of the sort you’re worried about.
 
Cruciferi said:
Fr. Amorth didn’t care for the books either. When they came out my Barnes and Noble had them on display next to all sorts of occult books. So everyone knows where they belong…
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Definitely. Stupid 16 characters.
 
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