Harry Potter and exorcists

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I dont think that’s his intention… your harshness is a bit excessive and uncharitable
 
Tis_Bearself said:
I didn’t bother reading them because they were kids’ books and I wasn’t interested in them. The only questionable aspect of them I noted was the profusion of weird online fan groups who got into drawing and writing Harry Potter porn. That was just plain gross.
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These are what we call weaboos of American literature.
Papa Franku did a video of them here.

EDIT: He is the south park of youtube
 
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If Fr. Ripperger, who is an exorcist, advises that the incantations in Harry Potter are real and that we should stay away from them then I’ll take that at face value.

There will be people who choose to believe they’re innocent words no matter who says otherwise, even if it’s a real-life exorcist condemning the books! People will have ears and still not hear. That’s their choice as we all have free will.

As for me and my family, we will not even open the door to the possibility that the spells are real in Harry Potter. Never worth opening the door to the evil one and his minions!! There are a million other books we can read!

Peace.

+JMJ+
 
LumineDiei said:
the fact he makes sure it’s presented in his videos that he is one.
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No lie there.
LumineDiei said:
Magesterium has no official pronouncement on
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Magisterium has official pronouncement on magic, occult, superstition, etc. And psychiatry has official pronouncement on magical thinking. The elements in Harry Potter have been abundantly condemned for millennia and in Sacred Scripture itself. [Do I really need to say more?]

@twf
twf said:
Explain all of these points with actual references
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I have explained in this post @twf, please enough said. Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
 
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Well if people listened to actual amount of exorcists (you know the people who know how demons and possession works more than any of us) that speak out on the matter, you would too protest against all of this madness. I am not crusading against just harry potter but all things occult like that influences adolescents and are disguised as “fun and games” so to speak.
 
Fr. Ripperger is indeed an exorcist who personally deals with the evil one and all the other bad angels. Fr. knows how the evil one operates from his very own mouth when he communicates with him during his exorcisms. He’s a priest and exorcist with FIRST-HAND knowledge of the workings of the demonic.

Peace.

+JMJ+
 
jmj777 said:
Fr. Ripperger is indeed an exorcist who personally deals with the evil one and all the other bad angels. Fr. knows how the evil one operates from his very own mouth when he communicates with him during his exorcisms. He’s a priest and exorcist with FIRST-HAND knowledge of the workings of the demonic.

Peace.

+JMJ+
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Exactly the point I am trying to make above.
 
How is Harry Potter different that Lord of the Rings or the Narnia books?
 
Truthfully, they are not. They all promote occult themes and gimmick magic, spells, sacrifices, etc as something that is fun and purely mythological which is not the case.

The reality is that magic and all of these practices are very real and very scary. If one truly understood the consequences of their “harmless” practices, I can pretty much guarantee the would never have engaged in them to begin with.
 
You could make the same argument against Narnia or Lord of the Rings.
You still haven’t presented any arguments from the text itself.
No the spells are not Occult spells in the sense of invocations to spirits as in real life. They are fantasy spells that work in a mechanical, natural manner within the context of this fantasy world.
No one is born a wizard in real life. Obviously. We are talking about a fairy tale.
 
And when that gets dull, continue the crusade against modern science…
only in America ;).
 
There can be myths and fairy tales like Jack and the Bean Sprout that don’t contain magic and spells. Eliminating magic, spells, sacrifices, and satanic ceremonies doesn’t get rid of mythology as a genre. It is best to avoid all of these books that support these diabolical practices.
 
Does anyone here know what a real spell sounds like? The words, the language, the invocations? If not, how do you discount what an exorcist says when he KNOWS what the spells/incantations are that invoke the evil spirits?

Peace.

+JMJ+
 
LumineDiei said:
That and all the mythology that was taught as part of the classical education
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It is taught that polytheistic mythological Gods of classic Greece/Roman culture are false and pre-Christian.

Star Wars and Harry Potter (even Matrix) are in a completely different league substituting God for magic or pantheism. You’ll notice God to be strangely absent without any reference to divinity. Inciting children to magic presenting it as innocuous is potentially dangerous.
 
The replies on this thread make me really sad. It’s not about taking away the fun and making us Puritans. It’s about setting a good example for the children. It’s about being careful about the way occult practices are displayed. I was at one point obsessed with the Harry Potter books. I could easily see someone being influenced by it enough to look into occult practices.

It may not directly cause sin, just like sexual scenes in movies may not directly cause sin, but are we really so naive to think that Harry Potter doesn’t show the occult in a good light? That kids wouldn’t be willing enough to do spell work? I see YouTube videos pop up all the time about teenagers talking about their spell books and the like. And I can bet you Harry Potter has done something to encourage it.
 
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Fr. Ripperger has some problems. His views are a bit extreme and scrupulous. A suggestion? Let him go.
 
Because the spells are made up, mostly from bits of Latin put together. They aren’t real, they don’t work.
 
adgloriam said:
It is taught that polytheistic mythological Gods of classic Greece/Roman culture are false and pre-Christian.

Star Wars and Harry Potter (even Matrix) are in a completely different league substituting God for magic or pantheism. You’ll notice God to be strangely absent without any reference to divinity. Inciting children to magic presenting it as innocuous is potentially dangerous.
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Absolutely. It’s for the future of the Catholic youth that we need to stop these books and programs before they get out of hand (they have already), or get transformed into a bigger issue (it’s already a freaking huge issue).
 
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