'Harry Potter and yoga are evil', says Catholic Church exorcist

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Actually the postures in Yoga are from nature.
There are thousands of gods in the Hindu religion, with gods for all of the natural elements in the cosmos. For example, Dyaush Pita is the sky father, Vayu is the wind god, Parjanya is the rain god, Agni the fire god, etc. etc.
Question, if Satanists came up with a great set of exercises which contorted the body into different poses representing the devil, would you do them?

In Sacred Scripture, God said: "For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” (Exodus 20:4-5).

Instead of Yoga, I would recommend some basic stretching and jumping jacks instead of using your body to pose like the different gods in pagan religions…😃
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Yoga should be avoided by Catholics, simply because it is contrary to our faith. Most do not realize that the bodily positions in Yoga exercises are poses of the different Hindu gods. In Hinduism worship is done through bodily poses, and each pose represents the different gods that are being worshiped.
But nothing connects those physical postures intrinsically to the worship of pagan gods. So if the intention isn’t there, there’s no worship of false gods. To fear otherwise is superstition.

Yoga is fine if treated as a purely physical/physiological exercise, divorced from its Hindu origins.
As a mom of two and grandmon of three, I must agree with Fr. Amorth regarding Harry Potter. Young readers can become enthralled in the fantasy created by the author. Many young readers and adults, as well, are avid collectors of all kinds of Harry Potter items, in addition to reading all the books and seeing all the movies again and again. This kind of repetition must make a spiritual impression.
In this case, it’s a good spiritual impression, due to the morally and spiritually positive Christian structure, imagery, and themes of the Harry Potter series. The little outline I made that curlycool reproduced on page two gives one of many examples of the series’ Christian elements.
Realize that the books teach authentic sorcery to children. The spells and rituals in the Harry Potter books are real. In the first book alone, former occult practitioner and expert Toni Collins lists the “Sorting Ceremony” described on pages 117-122, the Body-Bind spell on page 273 and brews listed in Professor Snape’s potions class on pages 136-139, as being authentic. She said only someone who has engaged in these practices would know they weren’t fantasy, and only someone who had done meticulous research into Wiccan practices could have written them. Former occult practitioner Steve Wood, host of St. Joseph’s Covenant Keepers radio show, also confirmed that he used many of the rituals that are casually described in Potter books.
These claims are so absurd and outlandish that a part of me cannot help but believe that you are actually satirizing the anti-Harry Potter camp.
Realize that the books teach authentic sorcery to children. The spells and rituals in the Harry Potter books are real.
Absolutely false; you have given some specific examples, though, which is fortunate since you couldn’t have chosen better examples to illustrate how unambiguously ludicrous the claim that the spells are “real” is.
In the first book alone, former occult practitioner and expert Toni Collins lists the “Sorting Ceremony” described on pages 117-122,
For those who haven’t read the book: an intelligent, self-aware, talking/singing hat - a rip over the brim is its mouth - sings a song about how the students will be placed into one of four “houses” (dormitories/student groups) based on personality. The song is in rhymed iambic lines of alternating trimeter and tetrameter. It’s silly and fun. For instance, the last four lines are:

So put me on! Don’t be afraid
And don’t get in a flap!
You’re in safe hands, though I have none,
For I’m a thinking cap!

One by one, the new students put the hat on their head; it looks into their minds and hearts, speaks to them privately if necessary, figures out which house they belong in, and then announces to the whole assembled school which house that student will be in.

Gabriel, and anyone still on the fence about this, please take note: hats don’t talk. Also, the houses of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry don’t exist, because Hogwarts doesn’t exist.

The claim that the “Sorting Ceremony” is real… well, let’s just say that anyone who could truly think this most likely has a serious medical issue that genuinely inhibits his or her capacity to understand what is real and what is make-believe.
the Body-Bind spell on page 273
Works like this:

The witch or wizard points his or her wand at his or her target, says “Petrificus Totalus!”, and that person is paralyzed temporarily: the victim’s body instantly becomes as rigid as a board.

Wands in the Harry Potter universe are made from fictional ingredients like unicorn tail hair, dragon heartstring, and phoenix tail feather.

The actual incantation - “Petrificus Totalus” - is just some random (and incorrect?) Latin.

The effect is fantastical and instantaneous, and no invocation is involved.

As you can see, the idea that waving a stick with unicorn hair in it at someone and saying some fake Latin can paralyze them, is an idea that could take hold only in the mind of someone medically incapable of understanding what is real.
and brews listed in Professor Snape’s potions class on pages 136-139, as being authentic.
He mentions certain ingredients that are real - bezoars, asphodel, wormwood - but they have absolutely no magical properties in real life, and no instruction on what to do with them is given.

For instance, Professor Snape asserts that a bezoar is a panacea. Well, in real life, it’s not.

The actual potions in the Harry Potter series are obviously fictional and fantastical.
She said only someone who has engaged in these practices would know they weren’t fantasy.
Only someone with a real medical condition that hinders their capacity to comprehend what is real could think, as an adult, that talking hats, unicorns, and all-curing bezoars are real.

In conclusion, I recommend this link for a satirical summary. Ironically, the full Body-Bind Curse is one of the very examples he uses.
 
Realize that the books teach authentic sorcery to children. The spells and rituals in the Harry Potter books are real. In the first book alone, former occult practitioner and expert Toni Collins lists the “Sorting Ceremony” described on pages 117-122, the Body-Bind spell on page 273 and brews listed in Professor Snape’s potions class on pages 136-139, as being authentic. She said only someone who has engaged in these practices would know they weren’t fantasy, and only someone who had done meticulous research into Wiccan practices could have written them. Former occult practitioner Steve Wood, host of St. Joseph’s Covenant Keepers radio show, also confirmed that he used many of the rituals that are casually described in Potter books…

HERE IS AN ARTICLE by Toni Collins which you should to read.
You and Toni both speak as though she was soaked in the occult, a full practitioner and devout follower when in reality she tried casting one spell once and got scared. She’s a former occultist like Alberto Rivera is a former Catholic.

Take it from someone who knows and speaks with wiccans and witches for his job, the spells in Harry Potter are fake - the imaginings of the author. I will never cease to be amazed at a person’s propensity towards picking an absolute know-nothing, calling them an expert, and using them to support a position.
 
There are thousands of gods in the Hindu religion, with gods for all of the natural elements in the cosmos. For example, Dyaush Pita is the sky father, Vayu is the wind god, Parjanya is the rain god, Agni the fire god, etc. etc.
Question, if Satanists came up with a great set of exercises which contorted the body into different poses representing the devil, would you do them?

In Sacred Scripture, God said: "For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” (Exodus 20:4-5).

Instead of Yoga, I would recommend some basic stretching and jumping jacks instead of using your body to pose like the different gods in pagan religions…😃
http://www.om-sweet-om.net/shiva-hindu-god-ramki.jpg
I don’t know about you, but no one I know can pose like that. Legs don’t typically bend that way, and most people are short a couple of arms needed.
 
I will never cease to be amazed at a person’s propensity towards picking an absolute know-nothing, calling them an expert, and using them to support a position.
Fr. Amorth has been doing exorcisms for decades and he speaks out against Harry Potter.
Are you an expert in exorcisms?
 
In the Dec 9th issue of the magazine The Week it says the former chief exorcist of the Vatican has denounced yoga as a tool of Satin. Fr. G. Amorth ,86yrs, who is Pres. -for-life of the International Assoc. Of Exorcists, says the increasing popular Eastern discipline and breathing can lead devotees to Hinduism and thus to a “false belief in reincarnation and a unholy worship of the body”. Practicing yoga is Satanic", said Amoth.". “It leads to evil just like reading Harry Potter”.
I find this hard to believe. I think he should retire.
I think this man has seen more proof of what causes people to be possessed than any of us ever will. He knows what he is talking about if he is the top exorcist.

I’ve always questioned the usefulness of yoga and eastern disciplines even acupuncture. They don’t rely on science or accomplish anything empirically, they just are based on eastern religious beliefs. I don’t hold these beliefs to be true.
 
But nothing connects those physical postures intrinsically to the worship of pagan gods. So if the intention isn’t there, there’s no worship of false gods. To fear otherwise is superstition.
I think I will trust the chief exorcist at the Vatican instead of Fone Bone 2001. What’s more, Pope Benedict once warned of “subtle seductions” in the Potter books that “dissolve Christianity in the soul.” The Pope has also warned that yoga “can degenerate into a cult of the body.”
 
It may sound ridiculous to some, but evil spirits are as real as the nose on your face. But evil spirits, like angels, are pure intellect. Thus they operate in the realm of thoughts, influencing ideas. Ideas are the most powerful things on earth. Ideas have the power to move mountains and diver rivers and guide the masses.

But just as God has his prophets and saints in this world, so too does the devil have his ambassadors, who influence the masses through movies, television and music. Thus an exorcist realizes this in a very special and real way.

Movies and books inspire people, and parents who care about their children should be aware of the dangers of the seeds which movies and books can plant into the minds and hearts of their sons and daughters. In the Potter series, Harry is a young wizard, and witchcraft and wizardry is a central themes. What’s more, the spells used in the books and movies are actual incantations inspired by people who practice the occult. Harry Potter is fiction, but that’s not the point. The reason why movies and television shows are laced with all sorts of social agendas is because the minds behind these shows know the power of propaganda, which can assimilate people (especially the new generations) into accepting, thinking and practicing certain values.

A study done in India showed that after Western channels were made available through the new cable systems in the region, crime skyrocketed 800% within a couple of years. Monkey see monkey do. Pornography has an effect on a person, and depending on his or her temperament, it will produce different fruit, albeit all rotten. From fornication, adultery, broken homes, rape, promiscuity; in other words, polluted thinking produces bad actions. Pour MTV into the mind of your teenager and don’t be surprised when they come home with a tattoo, body piercings, or dabbling with witchcraft. Television and movies have the power to transform a person by having ideas take root inside the mind.

Today, the practice of the occult is becoming more mainstream, and thanks in part to such movies as Harry Potter, children today can repeat the same incantations and magic spells they hear coming from the lips of young movie stars.

Parents, don’t be stupid. Raise and mold your children in Christian virtues, if not, the world will do it for you with movies, music and television. Check out this VIDEO LINK of a short interview with an exorcist on the dangers of dabbling with the occult…
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Gabriel Serafin, brilliant post. I agree 100%.
 
I think this man has seen more proof of what causes people to be possessed than any of us ever will. He knows what he is talking about if he is the top exorcist.
No he doesn’t. He knows how to exorcise people, but those people got possessed before he arrived. He doesn’t see what makes a person possessed nor is there any real reason for him to know that. He’s an expert on the end of possession, not the beginning. He’s not there at the beginning.
 
Realize that the books teach authentic sorcery to children. The spells and rituals in the Harry Potter books are real. In the first book alone, former occult practitioner and expert Toni Collins lists the “Sorting Ceremony” described on pages 117-122, the Body-Bind spell on page 273 and brews listed in Professor Snape’s potions class on pages 136-139, as being authentic. She said only someone who has engaged in these practices would know they weren’t fantasy, and only someone who had done meticulous research into Wiccan practices could have written them. Former occult practitioner Steve Wood, host of St. Joseph’s Covenant Keepers radio show, also confirmed that he used many of the rituals that are casually described in Potter books…

HERE IS AN ARTICLE by Toni Collins which you should to read.
Nope. Not real. Not possible to be real. This is common sense!
But nothing connects those physical postures intrinsically to the worship of pagan gods. So if the intention isn’t there, there’s no worship of false gods. To fear otherwise is superstition.

Yoga is fine if treated as a purely physical/physiological exercise, divorced from its Hindu origins.

In this case, it’s a good spiritual impression, due to the morally and spiritually positive Christian structure, imagery, and themes of the Harry Potter series. The little outline I made that curlycool reproduced on page two gives one of many examples of the series’ Christian elements.

These claims are so absurd and outlandish that a part of me cannot help but believe that you are actually satirizing the anti-Harry Potter camp.

Absolutely false; you have given some specific examples, though, which is fortunate since you couldn’t have chosen better examples to illustrate how unambiguously ludicrous the claim that the spells are “real” is.

For those who haven’t read the book: an intelligent, self-aware, talking/singing hat - a rip over the brim is its mouth - sings a song about how the students will be placed into one of four “houses” (dormitories/student groups) based on personality. The song is in rhymed iambic lines of alternating trimeter and tetrameter. It’s silly and fun. For instance, the last four lines are:

So put me on! Don’t be afraid
And don’t get in a flap!
You’re in safe hands, though I have none,
For I’m a thinking cap!

One by one, the new students put the hat on their head; it looks into their minds and hearts, speaks to them privately if necessary, figures out which house they belong in, and then announces to the whole assembled school which house that student will be in.

Gabriel, and anyone still on the fence about this, please take note: hats don’t talk. Also, the houses of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry don’t exist, because Hogwarts doesn’t exist.

The claim that the “Sorting Ceremony” is real… well, let’s just say that anyone who could truly think this most likely has a serious medical issue that genuinely inhibits his or her capacity to understand what is real and what is make-believe.

Works like this:

The witch or wizard points his or her wand at his or her target, says “Petrificus Totalus!”, and that person is paralyzed temporarily: the victim’s body instantly becomes as rigid as a board.

Wands in the Harry Potter universe are made from fictional ingredients like unicorn tail hair, dragon heartstring, and phoenix tail feather.

The actual incantation - “Petrificus Totalus” - is just some random (and incorrect?) Latin.

The effect is fantastical and instantaneous, and no invocation is involved.

As you can see, the idea that waving a stick with unicorn hair in it at someone and saying some fake Latin can paralyze them, is an idea that could take hold only in the mind of someone medically incapable of understanding what is real.

He mentions certain ingredients that are real - bezoars, asphodel, wormwood - but they have absolutely no magical properties in real life, and no instruction on what to do with them is given.

For instance, Professor Snape asserts that a bezoar is a panacea. Well, in real life, it’s not.

The actual potions in the Harry Potter series are obviously fictional and fantastical.

Only someone with a real medical condition that hinders their capacity to comprehend what is real could think, as an adult, that talking hats, unicorns, and all-curing bezoars are real.

In conclusion, I recommend this link for a satirical summary. Ironically, the full Body-Bind Curse is one of the very examples he uses.
Wonderfully said! 👍👍
 
I think I will trust the chief exorcist at the Vatican instead of Fone Bone 2001. What’s more, Pope Benedict once warned of “subtle seductions” in the Potter books that “dissolve Christianity in the soul.” The Pope has also warned that yoga “can degenerate into a cult of the body.”
If we avoided everything that* can* be bad, we would have nothing left.
 
No he doesn’t. He knows how to exorcise people, but those people got possessed before he arrived. He doesn’t see what makes a person possessed nor is there any real reason for him to know that. He’s an expert on the end of possession, not the beginning. He’s not there at the beginning.
Exorcists perform lengthy investigations into their cases, and work with a staff of experts (doctors, psychologists, etc) in order to determine the nature of the cases that come to them. Part of that process involves determining how they got there. This is done to weed out cases of psychological problems and mental illness. All the sources cited above report this.

Do you have actual sources that contradict this fact?
 
Exorcists perform lengthy investigations into their cases, and work with a staff of experts (doctors, psychologists, etc) in order to determine the nature of the cases that come to them. Part of that process involves determining how they got there. All the sources cited above report this.

Do you have actual sources that contradict this fact?
The onus of evidence is on the one making the positive claim. It’s on you to have sources, not me.
 
Perhaps I’m missing something, but those are forum posts. I wouldn’t be allowed to use them as sources in 2nd grade.
Farsight001, you know very well that the sources are linked in the forum posts. The experts here on CAF often do the same thing with referring to articles mentioned in past postings. Since you are not interested in my sources, all I can say is our conversation is over.

Your posts will now be placed on my forum ignore filter. Do not bother replying, as I will no longer be able to see your posts anymore.
 
If we avoided everything that* can* be bad, we would have nothing left.
Well, avoiding exposing your children to an introduction into the occult is a good idea, especially if you have exorcists and the Pope cautioning about these things. The devil is real and he is t r i c k y. A master at deception. To introduce an entire generations of children to witchcraft and the occult will surely yield some sort of crop for him…
 
Farsight001, you know very well that the sources are linked in the forum posts. The experts here on CAF often do the same thing with referring to articles mentioned in past postings. Since you are not interested in my sources, all I can say is our conversation is over.

Your posts will now be placed on my forum ignore filter. Do not bother replying, as I will no longer be able to see your posts anymore.
Well that was really rude. Someone tell him that I didn’t actually know that the sources are linked in the forum posts. I just noticed that the links in the post linked were to other forum posts. I had no reason to believe that the links were not themselves the sources, and thus no reason to click on them.
 
In the Dec 9th issue of the magazine The Week it says the former chief exorcist of the Vatican has denounced yoga as a tool of Satin. Fr. G. Amorth ,86yrs, who is Pres. -for-life of the International Assoc. Of Exorcists, says the increasing popular Eastern discipline and breathing can lead devotees to Hinduism and thus to a “false belief in reincarnation and a unholy worship of the body”. Practicing yoga is Satanic", said Amoth.". “It leads to evil just like reading Harry Potter”.
I find this hard to believe. I think he should retire.
Yeah when you start saying exercise is a children’s book is evil then you need to think of retirement or e forced.
 
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