You and Toni both speak as though she was soaked in the occult, a full practitioner and devout follower when in reality she tried casting one spell once and got scared. She’s a former occultist like Alberto Rivera is a former Catholic.
Take it from someone who knows and speaks with wiccans and witches for his job, the spells in Harry Potter are fake - the imaginings of the author. I will never cease to be amazed at a person’s propensity towards picking an absolute know-nothing, calling them an expert, and using them to support a position.
Especially since if you actually ask
real Wiccans or pagans about
Harry Potter, they always roll their eyes and explain that it doesn’t even resemble what they do in the slightest.
I think I will trust the chief exorcist at the Vatican instead of Fone Bone 2001.
The argument from authority is the weakest of all arguments.
What I said about intention is self-evidently true. Ignore it if you wish.
What’s more, Pope Benedict once warned of “subtle seductions” in the Potter books that “dissolve Christianity in the soul.”
No he didn’t.
jimmyakin.org/2005/07/pre16_on_harry_.html
jimmyakin.org/2005/07/lifesitenews_ca.html
The Pope has also warned that yoga “can degenerate into a cult of the body.”
Well, I agree with him on that.
No he doesn’t. He knows how to exorcise people, but those people got possessed before he arrived. He doesn’t see what makes a person possessed nor is there any real reason for him to know that. He’s an expert on the end of possession, not the beginning. He’s not there at the beginning.
Precisely. Performing exorcisms makes one an expert on exorcisms, not yoga or
Harry Potter.
Well, avoiding exposing your children to an introduction into the occult is a good idea
I agree, but there’s nothing occult about
Harry Potter. My reply to the examples you cited - and thank you for citing examples, by the way - shows this. And the actual themes and structure themselves are actually very Christian.
Pornography is also often presented very elegantly and for visual consumption in countless ways, but the rotten fruit is impure thoughts which affect countless people in many different ways. For some it leads to fornication, others promiscuity, adultery, etc. which then leads to broken homes, fatherless children. Thus a corrupt small seed takes root and bears rotten fruit.
Oooh, that reminds me:
Harry Potter actually presents a very traditional and chaste picture of human sexuality and family life. Fornication, homosexuality and divorce aren’t even in the books at all, and the fact that the Weasleys - lovable good guys - have a huge family is praised rather than portrayed as irresponsible.
Being a wizard is to practice sorcery (witchcraft) . In the movie Harry Potter is a young wizard.
The terms are used
analogously, not
univocally.
Please read my earliest reply, Gabriel, the one addressing the examples you cited. Portraying waving a stick with a phoenix tail feather in it, shouting Latin, and thereby temporarily paralyzing someone, has literally nothing to do - in either appearance or structure - with real-world occult practices. There’s literally no similarity.
You can watch a fictional pornographic movie and have all kinds of seeds planted in your head, especially if you are young and highly impressionable. Sorcery, witchcraft , conjuring up spirits, divination, and incantations are all part of the occult, and these books and movies are filled with this stuff.
The fatal flaw in this analogy is that - even on a fictional level - the Potter books don’t portray
any real occult practices. The “incantations” in the book are things like, “Wingardium leviosa!” which makes objects fly. That’s. Not. Real. At all.
It couldn’t be - no invocation is connected with it, which structurally removes it from the purview of real occultism.
Likewise with “conjuring up spirits.” No real practices that purport to do this are even mentioned in the books. When the series portrays the spirits of dead characters interacting with the main characters, the
actual effect of this portrayal is to undermine the materialism of our age. How could that be a bad thing?
I haven’t read the books, but I’ve seen enough of the movies to identify the obvious.
You think there’s anything even remotely resembling anything even potentially real about
this scene?
That is what “magic” in Harry Potter is like.
But I think it is time for you to see what it leads to in this world and in the next…and who is behind it all. Please
take a look at this serious incantation
I started watching it; it was too creepy and horrifying to keep watching. Suffice it to say, it is intrinsically dissimilar to anything in the
Harry Potter novels. In
Harry Potter, an incantation is a short Latin phrase that accomplishes an immediate and fantastical effect when you say it as you wave around a stick with unicorn hair in it.
Is the line of verse “I’ll eat myself if you can find a smarter hat than me!” a real occult phrase?
If you are, then I can’t take you seriously!:cool
