'Harry Potter and yoga are evil', says Catholic Church exorcist

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You just did it again. Assuming that everyone already agree with your opinion on Harry Potter.

You say this is your first post on Harry Potter, so now I’m going to admonish you: I’ve been the past half-dozen threads we’ve had about Harry Potter, so I already know all your arguments and they are a bunch of bull.
Are you going to be okay? I’m pretty sure I’ve never posted about Harry Potter before. You may be confusing me with someone else.

You obviously really like Harry Potter and are a good Catholic and are sensitive about the subject. It’s not my intention to demonstrate that you’re wrong or a bad Catholic. I actually have a Harry Potter movie at home somewhere that someone gave me as a gift. My point is just a general idea that we should try to surround ourselves with genuine Christian culture. I’m not trying to say its a sin to watch the occasional movie with witches or wizards. But if we make an effort we can find more good Christian books and movies and we should make that effort.
 
Only what I have been taught at the university, and agree with.

Honestly, churches have been teaching soft witchcraft for many years with all the cute cartoons, and repetitive youth stories that allow children to derive Christian meanings with a childlike design. Sadly, these children teach their children, and their children teach, and…etc…we are living in a Wilie Wonka World. The bible itself has lost its place in the homes of America, a county given to Jesus of Nazareth. Children raised by university students of religion are now the only individuals who understand the complexities of the Holy Word. Not to be rebellious, but to serve our God, of intelligence, a fair portion of the scriptures to teach and refresh adults, renew mature young adults, and instruct unbelievers, who have little respect for the rituals of our faith, in the course to create a Godlike community, as well as, an understanding of the complete truth of our blessed scriptures. It is said to be a library of knowledge. Not just spirituality, but including spirituality. TV, movies, literature are promoting religious concepts written within the holy scriptures…even music lyrics have the information. But, the bible is given none of the credit for the complex knowledge of the event! Personally, it’s time to put the cartoon stories back in the elementary school rooms, and start teaching adults the hidden truths of the Holy Scriptures. 🤷

Somewhat related to this thread is a paper I had to write on 1 Corinthians. It is not intended to be harsh, but what universities feel is needed to be taught…me included!
If I were to look up “Gnosticism” in the dictionary, would this posting be there as an illustration?
 
Only what I have been taught at the university, and agree with.

Honestly, churches have been teaching soft witchcraft for many years with all the cute cartoons, and repetitive youth stories that allow children to derive Christian meanings with a childlike design. Sadly, these children teach their children, and their children teach, and…etc…we are living in a Wilie Wonka World. The bible itself has lost its place in the homes of America, a county given to Jesus of Nazareth. Children raised by university students of religion are now the only individuals who understand the complexities of the Holy Word. Not to be rebellious, but to serve our God, of intelligence, a fair portion of the scriptures to teach and refresh adults, renew mature young adults, and instruct unbelievers, who have little respect for the rituals of our faith, in the course to create a Godlike community, as well as, an understanding of the complete truth of our blessed scriptures. It is said to be a library of knowledge. Not just spirituality, but including spirituality. TV, movies, literature are promoting religious concepts written within the holy scriptures…even music lyrics have the information. But, the bible is given none of the credit for the complex knowledge of the event! Personally, it’s time to put the cartoon stories back in the elementary school rooms, and start teaching adults the hidden truths of the Holy Scriptures. 🤷

Somewhat related to this thread is a paper I had to write on 1 Corinthians. It is not intended to be harsh, but what universities feel is needed to be taught…me included!
did something happen in the http translation when you posted that article? it doesn’t make any sense.

From your link:
The event selected here will try to illustrate between the ‘good’ and the ‘evil’ angel found in the first Book of the Corinthians, Chapter 13, verses 1-8. A disciple, while instructing different cultures in the Roman Empire, taught on the different philosophical reason in angelic behavior. His intention was to establish the Christ-like lifestyle of religious thought in the ancient metropolis cities of the Roman Empire. The 13th chapter of 1 Corinthians, New Testament is an example the early fathers used in Christian reasoning. The next paragraph hopes to share a thought of the ‘dark angel’, and what to look for in their behaviors.
Verse 1 says, angelic tongues(or, the tonal quality) with no love is like a ‘gong’ or a ‘clashing cymble’. The first tone is a deep gong, the other is a sharp, high pitch sound like a cymbal. Therefore, when determining a dark angel one was to listen to the tone of the individual voice, i.e., the literal sound of either the gong or the shape cymbal…described as an angel ‘without love’, or God Almighty. The verse also says a dark angel is (name removed by moderator)atient and unkind. With uncontrolled mannerisms and abrasive speech, they’re jealous(covetous), pompous(arrogant), and inflated(feels magnificent). They’ll be rude with self-seeking interests, and quick tempered. They brood over personal injury and rejoice over wrongdoings.
Among the world population, the greatest numbers of persons with this kind of behavior are the ‘FAS’(Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) adult and children. Today, Psychology styles this behavior as ‘demon’, rather then dark angel. In my information learned about these spoke words, they sound as tonal tremors. Beginning lightly and embedding the word itself until each word is fully developed as a gong or cymbaling sound, thus pronouncing actual word with either the gong or cymbal sounding as the primary tone.- kla
Interestingly to note, FAS feel the number two itself is holy, and the number four feels safe to them. In this event, the disciple gives two examples of a dark angel, “human and angelic”. Following with four illustrations of a heavenly realm: prophecy, mysteries, knowledge, mountain tops. Paraphrasing his comments, this disciple uses himself as the person in question. Therefore, in religious reasoning “God is Love” thereby controls “before the eyes of God, all men are prefect”. Understanding, ‘without love’, a person could be acquired of false prophethoodedness, miscalculated mysteries, disabled knowledge, and lack of faith to move a mountain i.e. rebuke demons or Satan. Finally, the disciple says that dark angels work at nothing, believe in nothing, and hope and endure at nothing. Dark angels always fail. Their prophecies are nothing, their tongues will cease, and their temporal knowledge(god) also is worth nothing.
Thanks to these Christ-driven disciples, we, today, have a very good understanding of what to look and listen for. When we choose a mentor as friend or a foe, we should use this information.
 
FoneBone, I would be interested in your response to this post that I made earlier on this thread:

And for the record, I have read all of the HP books and liked them very much. I absolutely understand and acknowledge that the magic in HP is fantasy and not real and in no way related to practicing witches or wiccans.

Also, i believe that we are specifically talking about impressionable people–young people and perhaps those young adult “seekers” who glom onto anything that comes along. would i allow my child, if i had one, to read HP? yes. but I would also be sure to have a few casual conversations about fantasy and make believe. and since I also have read all of the Dragonriders of Pern and other such fantasy fare, the child would likely have been exposed to that concept of “fantasy” long before they got to HP.
Sure, that’s a very reasonable question. And you sound very informed to me. 🙂

There are four reasons I don’t think the Harry Potter series presents this danger.

**(1) **Structurally and otherwise, the “magic” of Rowling’s universe is qualitatively distinct from and dissimilar to real-world occult practices. The reason real sorcery is immoral is because any human being who uses such powers got them from a supernatural source - and God has forbidden such practices, which leaves only the forces of evil to offer such power.

Rowling, by contrast, has used the entirely fictional idea of a subspecies of the human race with purely natural inborn powers that seem magical to those without them. No invocation of any kind is involved, and these powers cannot be learned under any circumstances by ordinary people (“Muggles”).

In other words, the “magic” of Rowling’s “wizards” is like the “magic” of Tolkien’s elves. Would reading The Lord of the Rings and being fascinated by the uniquely elven mystical abilities pave the way for a curious child to investigate the occult? Anything is possible, but thinking it might happen would be like thinking that a child who loves going to the zoo is going to start investigating how to build robots. There’s just no connection.

**(2) **Besides, the aesthetic/external aspects of this “magic” are deliberately made to be obviously fantastical and unreal. The examples from page 2 that Gabriel cited and that I examined prove this: point a wand - made, by the way, from obviously fictional ingredients like phoenix tail feather - say “Petrificus totalus!”, and down your enemy goes. Literally the only thing such “magic” has in common with any real occult practice is the word “magic.”

So I don’t think it paves the way for a child to investigate witchcraft, since even if they think Harry Potter magic is “cool” or something, real occult practices will in no way *feel *like them or aesthetically approximate them at all.

**(3) **I could be wrong, but my impression is that real-world occult practices focus on manipulating circumstances and people to get the knowledge or the results that you want. Manipulating people forcibly is consistently portrayed as really slimy and immoral by the Potter books, so I can’t imagine a child steeped in them would find real-world occult power to be alluring. More likely their exposure to Harry Potter would turn them off to such power, which the Potter series always depicts as overrated and spiritually inferior to real relationships and trust.

(4) Finally, the Christian elements in the series - again, see curlycool’s reply on page two for just one example - really do prepare kids’ hearts and minds for Christian truths about death, love, and valuing good infinitely above the perishable things of this world (“Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also” is, if you’ll remember, even on Ariana and Kendra Dumbledore’s gravestone). That actually probably weakens their susceptibility to being tempted by the occult.

Anyway, those are the four reasons that occur to me. By contrast, I see no solid reasons - in light of these points - to fear that the series would mentally/spiritually prepare a child for witchcraft.
There’s enough good Christian culture out there. So why would you want to immerse your kids in Harry Potter pagan occultic culture?

So you can demonstrate logically that it’s not a sin. So what? Why are you trying to have one foot in occult culture and one foot in Christian culture?
For all the reasons some of us have been trying to explain (earlier in this thread and in other threads on the subject), Harry Potter is not part of any pagan/occult culture. A kid steeped in it has both feet in Christian culture.
 
In the Dec 9th issue of the magazine The Week it says the former chief exorcist of the Vatican has denounced yoga as a tool of Satin. Fr. G. Amorth ,86yrs, who is Pres. -for-life of the International Assoc. Of Exorcists, says the increasing popular Eastern discipline and breathing can lead devotees to Hinduism and thus to a “false belief in reincarnation and a unholy worship of the body”. Practicing yoga is Satanic", said Amoth.". “It leads to evil just like reading Harry Potter”.
I find this hard to believe. I think he should retire.
I respect Father Amorth and his advice over the years. However, he is not infallible. I do not take every single solitary thing he says as gospel truth. I am taking what he has (supposedly?) said with a grain of salt. I think there are too many variables in a case like demonic possession to ascribe them to one thing. Obviously a million plus people have read Harry Potter and/or practice Yoga. Yet a very, very small fraction of the population becomes possessed. What I believe many exorcists are concerned about is that they see Yoga or Harry Potter within the histories of many of their clients and they do not know what that ultimately means. Is it just a coincidence? Or a gateway drug, so to speak? A seed of evil that simply took a while to germinate? The first steps on the pathway to spiritual destruction, or simply child’s play?

Because they don’t know, a lot of them caution against it. But for every exorcist who is vehemently against HP and so forth, there is another shrugging their shoulders and saying there are other things more harmful to be worrying about. Some people on this forum have chosen to eschew Harry Potter and yoga altogether. That is their choice. Some people have chosen to see the good in the series and to practice those parts of yoga which do not have the spiritual aspects and only the health benefits. That is* their *choice. And some have chosen to embrace all of yoga and delve whole heartedly into Potter-mania. That is their choice.

Since the Church has not come right out and definitively said, “Reading Harry Potter is a mortal or venial sin; it is occultic, it is against the Ten Commandments and our faith” like it has against having Tarot cards read, playing the Ouija board, holding a seance, or seeing a psychic- I think that everyone has a right to present their opinions- but be respectful of others’ as well, since right now, it is nothing more than an opinion.
 
I may be totally off base here…however, it seems to me that if you see demons and goblins and (Cornish) pixies lurking behind every corner waiting to trip you up Harry Potter is quite clearly a gateway to the occult and hell.

If you don’t place some much credence in this sort of thing and can believe in a Creator without the need for horned, tailed devils, then Harry Potter is just an amusing, not always well written story, that children and adults alike can enjoy.
 
Are you going to be okay? I’m pretty sure I’ve never posted about Harry Potter before. You may be confusing me with someone else.
Sorry, Harry Potter arguments make me mad.
My point is just a general idea that we should try to surround ourselves with genuine Christian culture. I’m not trying to say its a sin to watch the occasional movie with witches or wizards. But if we make an effort we can find more good Christian books and movies and we should make that effort.
Why is there a dilemma at all? People can watch Harry Potter and Christian things (“good Christian books and movies” is also nearly an oxymoron).
 
Gabriel Serafin
There are thousands of gods in the Hindu religion, with gods for all of the natural elements in the cosmos. For example, Dyaush Pita is the sky father, Vayu is the wind god, Parjanya is the rain god, Agni the fire god, etc. etc.
And none of these are ever mentioned in my Yoga exercise postures.
Question, if Satanists came up with a great set of exercises which contorted the body into different poses representing the devil, would you do them?
You’re calling Hindus Satanists?
In Sacred Scripture, God said: "For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” (Exodus 20:4-5).
Right, and we have no other God but him.

When I do Yoga Exercise, they only God that ever comes into my mind is Jesus Christ.
Instead of Yoga, I would recommend some basic stretching and jumping jacks instead of using your body to pose like the different gods in pagan religions…
I don’t do body poses like different gods in pagan religiosns.

However, being that most pagan gods have human forms, it’s possible that they’re created in images of various regular human postures that people do everyday. Maybe we should stop moving, for fear we’re going to mimick a pagan god?

Problem with all of this is, there are various forms of Yoga, as there are various forms of Hinduism.

What makes anything evil is the intent in which it is done.

A Christian doing Yoga exercise who is centered on Christ, will have no problem.

A person who goes off and get’s involved with the spiritual aspects of Hinduism and replaces them over Christian beliefs, is the problem.

That all being said, the Pope wrote that we should not throw out what is good in other religions, just because they’re not Catholic.
V. Questions of Method
  1. The majority of the great religions which have sought union with God in prayer have also pointed out ways to achieve it. Just as "the Catholic Church rejects nothing of what is true and holy in these religions,"18 neither should these ways be rejected out of hand simply because they are not Christian. On the contrary, one can take from them what is useful so long as the Christian conception of prayer, its logic and requirements are never obscured.
    vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19891015_meditazione-cristiana_en.html
Jim
 
actually presents a very traditional and chaste picture of human sexuality and family life. Fornication, homosexuality and divorce aren’t even in the books at all, and the fact that the Weasleys - lovable good guys - have a huge family is praised rather than portrayed as irresponsible.
I think that all of you who are so defensive about any criticism of the Harry Poter series are missing the point. I think Catholic apologist Jimmy Akin put it best, when he explained:

In order to be able to comment apologetically on the Harry Potter phenomenon, I read the first novel and watched the first two movies. I was not at all impressed with them as literature, and I recognize that they can have a harmful spiritual effect on some readers, especially among the young. I also recognize that they are not an apologia for paganism and that a reader who is secure in his faith will not be magically turned into a neo-pagan by reading them.

As for Pope Benedic’t statement son Harry Potter, there aren’t any. They were made before he became pope. Here are the actual letters where he addressed the issue:

*Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger
Vatican City
March 7, 2003

Esteemed and dear Ms. Kuby!

Many thanks for your kind letter of February 20th and the informative book which you sent me in the same mail. It is good, that you enlighten people about Harry Potter, because those are subtle seductions, which act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow properly.

Sincere Greetings and Blessings,
  • Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger *
There’s a reason why Fr. Amorth and other exorcists cautions about these books and movies. The fact is that these series do introduce sorcery and occult practices to young minds. Yet some of you scoff at this idea. Some exorcists think otherwise.

Let me ask all of you who scoff:

Q. If the devil wanted to introduce sorcery and occult practices to millions of young minds, what would be an effective way to do this?***
 
I have never read Harry Potter, nor have I read Narnia.

So what’s so different about Harry Potter and Nania or the Wizard of Oz for that matter.

All are fiction.

Jim
 
Gabriel Serafin
You’re calling Hindus Satanists?
No, what I did was ask you a question. Here it is again:** if Satanists came up with a great set of exercises which contorted the body into different poses representing the devil, would you do them? Why? Why not?** I suppose you could just do the exercises and say you do not believe or intend the “spiritual stuff”. What is the difference between that and doing Yoga, which is the bodikly worship of pagan deities?

I think it would be a rather offensive thing to do toward God, simply because your body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Posing the temple of the Holy Spirit in the shapes of pagan gods is not a very wise thing to do. And how do you know it doesn’t offend God?

I would suggest replacing Yoga with some basic stretching exercises and then a nice stroll in the park…
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There’s a reason why Fr. Amorth and other exorcists cautions about these books and movies. The fact is that these series do introduce sorcery and occult practices to young minds. Yet some of you scoff at this idea. Some exorcists think otherwise.
We don’t scoff at the idea that introducing sorcery and occult practices to youth can be dangerous. We scoff at the idea that Harry Potter and yoga are sorcery and occult practices at all. They’re nothing alike, as we have already explained numerous times.
Q. If the devil wanted to introduce sorcery and occult practices to millions of young minds, what would be an effective way to do this?
I don’t know, but it would be logically necessary that this method involve actual sorcery and occult practices, which harry potter and yoga do not.
 
Sure, that’s a very reasonable question. And you sound very informed to me. 🙂
thank you 🙂
There are four reasons I don’t think the Harry Potter series presents this danger.

So I don’t think it paves the way for a child to investigate witchcraft, since even if they think Harry Potter magic is “cool” or something, real occult practices will in no way *feel *like them or aesthetically approximate them at all.
You made excellent points, but this one, I think, is the most compelling, at least for speaking to parents who might be concerned about their children reading these books.
 
I have the utmost respect and admiration for Fr. Amorth. But I do want to point out that back in the 70’s Jack Chick had a tract regarding the introduction of witchcraft and the occult thru watching “Bewitched”. So this is not a new argument, just a different target.
 
We don’t scoff at the idea that introducing sorcery and occult practices to youth can be dangerous. We scoff at the idea that Harry Potter and yoga are sorcery and occult practices at all. They’re nothing alike, as we have already explained numerous times.
Yet exorcists find it necessary to caution people. So I think I will trust them over Farsight001.
I don’t know, but it would be logically necessary that this method involve actual sorcery and occult practices
I don’t think your answer is very well thought out. After all, influencing people into fornication, adultery, murder, blasphemy, etc. is spread to millions of people worldwide through movies and television, not sorcery. So I would think a more reasonable answer would be that the devil would sow seeds by showing other children acting as “good” wizards, showing other children casting spells. showing other children harnessing the elements and having power over them through the use of sorcery.

Let me ask you this. Why do you think the Bible and the Catechism both vigorously condemn the practice of sorcery and casting spells?
 
Yet exorcists find it necessary to caution people. So I think I will trust them over Farsight001.
How about we trust the real experts - the occultists? No? But you claim to trust the exorcists because you think they know more about the subject.
I don’t think your answer is very well thought out. After all, influencing people into fornication, adultery, murder, blasphemy, etc. is spread to millions of people worldwide through movies and television, not sorcery.
Yes it is, but it is done by depicting actual fornication, adultery, murder, etc. No one is depicting actual sorcery in Harry Potter. That’s the point!
So I would think a more reasonable answer would be that the devil would sow seeds by showing other children acting as “good” wizards, showing other children casting spells. showing other children harnessing the elements and having power over them through the use of sorcery.
For the UMPTEENTH time, the “sorcery” in Harry Potter in NO WAY resembles real sorcery. I also think you are underestimating satan’s intelligence and trickery. I think a great way to lead people astray (which he wants to do by any means necessary, not just through sorcery) would be to trick people into thinking a beneficial and positive story with obvious Christian undertones is evil. The way I see it, he’s basically standing over people’s shoulders, whispering in their ears “look at that over there. That Harry Potter. That’s witchcraft. Stay away from it.”
Let me ask you this. Why do you think the Bible and the Catechism both vigorously condemn the practice of sorcery and casting spells?
Because doing so is evil. But as we’ve already been over before, Harry Potter and real sorcery and witchcraft are alike in name only. The similarities end there. They are about as alike as the donut that goes on your car when you have a flat and the donut that you put in your mouth when hungry.

Let me reiterate one more time, because in all the discussion on this subject in this thread and every one of the past threads on this same subject that I have participated in, this point has NEVER been responded to or even acknowledged by the other camp - THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE.
 
How about we trust the real experts - the occultists? No? But you claim to trust the exorcists because you think they know more about the subject.
umm… exorcists are experts in the occult, since they deliver those who get trapped by the occult 🤷
Yes it is, but it is done by depicting actual fornication, adultery, murder, etc. No one is depicting actual sorcery in Harry Potter. That’s the point!
Don’t be silly. Fornication, adultery, murder, etc. in movies is not real, it is acting by actors. That’s the point. The sorcery in HP is not real, but it is showing kids doing sorcery, casting spells and doing what the Bible condemns.
Harry Potter and real sorcery and witchcraft are alike in name only. The similarities end there.
Yes! That’s my point. I think you are finally understanding why exorcists caution about HP. I would suggest being a little humble and respecting what exorcists have to say, since they are the experts in the occult, not the ding-a-lings who dabble with it and end up getting possessed or oppressed or harassed by evil spirits…
 
I think that all of you who are so defensive about any criticism of the Harry Poter series are missing the point.
Sorry, I don’t mean to be defensive.

Only one thing in discussions like this upsets me, and that is falsehood - factual error that goes beyond the realm of valid disagreement. That is why I responded so harshly to the charge that the series portrays real spells and occult practices, because that is simply demonstrably and categorically untrue.
As for Pope Benedic’t statement son Harry Potter, there aren’t any. They were made before he became pope. Here are the actual letters where he addressed the issue:
jimmyakin.org/2005/07/lifesitenews_ca.html

jimmyakin.org/2005/07/pre16_on_harry_.html
The fact is that these series do introduce sorcery and occult practices to young minds.
No, they don’t, for the reasons I’ve already given in reply #110 above.
Some exorcists think otherwise.
Fr. Amorth is not an expert on Harry Potter. In fact, his comments seem to indicate that he has no familiarity with the series, is offering judgments based on hearsay, and has little understanding of fantasy literature in general. So why is he an authority on this matter?

If he doesn’t understand how fantasy literature can work, he is ill-equipped to gauge whether a given example of it promotes the occult or not, his experience as an exorcist notwithstanding.

In the words of professional CAF apologist Michelle Arnold:

"The problem is that some adults apparently do not know the difference between the fantasy magic of Harry Potter and the occult magick of the drugstore potboilers. They read about someone waving around a wand and are convinced, without further evidence or reflection, that This Book Is Evil. Even when they are correct that a book actually does contain a positive portrayal of characters who practice the occult, they presume that means the book cannot be read by anyone, when it may be that it could be read by some people but not by others." Source
thank you 🙂

You made excellent points, but this one, I think, is the most compelling, at least for speaking to parents who might be concerned about their children reading these books.
Thanks. Because of the moral and spiritual themes of the series, I actually think if the Harry Potter series has any influence at all on youth who read it, that influence will be a positive one.
Yes it is, but it is done by depicting actual fornication, adultery, murder, etc. No one is depicting actual sorcery in Harry Potter. That’s the point.
Precisely. Well said.
Don’t be silly. Fornication, adultery, murder, etc. in movies is not real, it is acting by actors. That’s the point. The sorcery in HP is not real, but it is showing kids doing sorcery, casting spells and doing what the Bible condemns.
You misunderstood the comparison:

Fornication, positively portrayed in stories, is indeed imaginary fornication: the characters, but not the actors, are fornicating.

“Witchcraft” in Harry Potter is not a real occult practice at all: unlike our fornication example, in this case not even the characters are practicing witchcraft.

Waving a stick with unicorn hair in it, shouting Latin, and blasting your enemies to unconsciousness is not sorcery. It’s made up. The only reason the series calls it “magic” is because, well, explosions that don’t use scientific/material ingredients seem magical. But it has nothing to do with actual magic: sorcery, invocation, witchcraft, etc.
 
umm… exorcists are experts in the occult, since they deliver those who get trapped by the occult 🤷
Don’t know if you were reading that far back, but we’ve been over this already. Exorcists are experts in exorcising people. They only arrive after the person is already possessed. They have no expertise, nor any need for expertise, in the occult. While the occult may lead to possession, it is not itself possession, and so the exorcists are not experts in it.
Don’t be silly. Fornication, adultery, murder, etc. in movies is not real, it is acting by actors. That’s the point. The sorcery in HP is not real, but it is showing kids doing sorcery, casting spells and doing what the Bible condemns.
It is acting, yes. But this acting depicts real fornication, etc. The acting in harry potter does NOT depict real witchcraft.
Yes! That’s my point. I think you are finally understanding why exorcists caution about HP. I would suggest being a little humble and respecting what exorcists have to say, since they are the experts in the occult, not the ding-a-lings who dabble with it and end up getting possessed or oppressed or harassed by evil spirits…
If you think I was supporting your point, you completely misunderstood. They are nothing alike, meaning that one does NOT lead to the other.

As for suggesting I be humble - you don’t know me. You know absolutely nothing about me. You don’t get to suggest I be humble like I am not just because I have a differing view than you. That is, by definition, arrogant and presumptuous of you. You think* I’m* not the humble one? Look in the mirror.
 
In the words of professional CAF apologist Michelle Arnold:
In the words of CAF apologist Jimmy Akin:
In order to be able to comment apologetically on the Harry Potter phenomenon, I read the first novel and watched the first two movies. I was not at all impressed with them as literature, and I recognize that they can have a harmful spiritual effect on some readers, especially among the young. I also recognize that they are not an apologia for paganism and that a reader who is secure in his faith will not be magically turned into a neo-pagan by reading them.
Fornication, positively portrayed in stories, is indeed imaginary fornication: the characters, but not the actors, are fornicating.
So what’s the difference? The actors in HP are acting out sorcery and casting spells. It sounds like you are rationalizing a defense, and that can be done for anything…
 
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