Harry Potter. Sin or no?

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niceatheist said:
some random priest
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No. I listen to him and priests like him for spiritual guidance, so he’s not some random priest to me. This priest, who is both a priest and exorcist is so by the authority of God. If I only listened to him about his views on Harry Potter your argument might hold some water…but I listen to him on all sorts of topics and his personal holiness and wisdom are very apparent. And these priests are very fluid in Latin.
 
JoshuaIsLord said:
There we go again with the Abortion dribble again. Do you ever get tired bringing that up in every conversation? It is like when a Protestant starts to lose a debate, they launch into their anti-Catholic diatribe. I personally see no distinction here.
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I could say the same of you regarding the “republican dribble”. Honestly…do you ever get tired of bringing that up in every conversation?
 
I’m sure he will be able to show examples of where the following are used in the occult then:

Alohomora
Accio
Crucio
Incendio
Imperio
Lumos

I’ll make this wiki for others to give examples.
 
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Sorry, Harry Potter uses dog latin. Very different thing. But you’re right, these priests should be able to interpret what the “spells” say literally even though what they are probably most knowledgeable of is ecclesiastical Latin.
 
Thanks for the correction! I knew it was some kind of animal, at least 😉
 
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Could be. I looked into the wicca content on youtube and even talked to some of them. Broken languages are the rule. Spells in English are also miss-spoken. The witches know the demons are dangerous to them too so in order to be protected they introduce a system to mistakes to make it seem like nothing is happening. Also ritual laughter and mocking the demons so they don’t get affected by dark feelings they feel. The ones I spoke to have no respect for the Untold one, they just want to know how to cast spells. They say all is good, most of the spells are blessings anyway, they say they protect us all. Some witches are atheist they just want to study and manipulate natural elements. But my guess is they have no idea what they are doing. The book says it’s actually good to grow this kind of powers if you have them and to do so you must study witchcraft. I don’t have kids but if I did I would definitely be challenged how to forbid this without frustrating them and making them even more attracted to this story. I’m sure JK Rowling imagines she did a great thing. Funny thing is that despite their easy going all witches have absolute despise and cannot stand Jesus Christ. They refuse to discuss it. They say it is made up and look at the Inquisition how many people died and then end of story.
 
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Yeah, JKR trotted out the “Dumbedore is gay” thing long after the last book was published and she had safely made most of the money she would ever make from the series.

Bona fide LGBT hero, that.

That was the moment I lost all respect for JKR.
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Why?

Being gay is not a sin. Being gay is just part of who you are.

Even if you accept that Dumbledore was gay, he was a successful, happy, single, celibate gay person, who did not tie his identity to his sexuality.

What is so terribly wrong with the fact that she created a good person who was gay?
 
I have read all the books in high school and became a fanatic; I loved them.

It has a good message. Yet the occult practices I say wouldn’t benefit society very well. I bet it had an influence on those who wished to pursue the occult.

It also was a huge waste of time. I could have been doing something much better with my time but instead locked myself in my room and read all day.
 
Mary888 said:
Funny thing is that despite their easy going all witches have absolute despise and cannot stand Jesus Christ
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I don’t have time to address every point but this is wrong. Most witches don’t believe in God at all so can’t hate someone that doesn’t exist. There are those who call themselves Christian, even Catholic witches.Not sure what to make of them but they do consider themselves wirches and they do not hate Christ.

If I have time I’ll address the other but I’ll have to dig through some stuff.
 
I think most HP fans agree it’s not great literature so are you saying reading HP all day was a waste of time, or that reading fiction was, or just reading is a waste of time. I will say that none if the above are but I’m not sure what you mean.
 
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Most witches don’t believe in God at all so can’t hate someone that doesn’t exist.
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Like I was saying some of them are atheist.
Please do tell me more. I have to admit they left me with a confused soft feeling towards them. Maybe they do get to talk with God but they don’t like what He says. I fear I have become to respect them in a way that I am too respectful for them. I heard on EWTN that God is not in communion with everyone who practices witchcraft. Deuteronomy also condemns this act. The Church condemns it too. It has been quite an effort to me to stop listening to Within Temptation and other of their Pagan songs. So if you want to show me what I else I think wrong on this one please do when you have the time.
 
Yep. From all the evidence presented, it would appear he spent nearly a century as a single man with no romantic entanglements. The professors of Hogwarts, generally, seem to be completely dedicated to their vocation to the point of not marrying.
 
Specifically those books because I was so attached to them.

But I’ve been attached to other fiction books as well that I would say was a waste of time for reading them.

Did it benefit me spiritually? No. Was I working or busying myself? No. Was I thinking about God? No. Could it have lead me to sin? Possibly.

I know that St. Teresa of Avila read a lot of romance books and eventually stopped for the same reasons.
 
I have reflected on and shared the Christian symbolism contained in the books with other fans… Christian symbolism that Rowling has fully acknowledged. It can be an opportunity for evangelization.
 
Just a quick reply to this is that most witches I know are more into nature, some do spells, some don’t. The ones that don’t do spells don’t because they don’t believe they have that power or should try yo interfere with nature or the universe. Those that do spells do things that remind me of partying for the intersession of St. Anthony for lost items. To a lot of non-Catholics that looks pointless or satanic. That’s why I joke with them that we Catholics and witches or wiccans are in good company because Jack Chick thinks we’re all evil.
 
casslean said:
Being gay is not a sin. Being gay is just part of who you are.
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You know that, and I know that.

But JKR knew exactly what effect this would have on the HP fan community (have you ever poked around the online forums, especially in the days of LiveJournal? It was an…interesting place), and how the vast majority of fans wouldn’t say “Dumbledore: celibate old man living in perfect Classical Christian chastity!”
No, she knew very darn well this would be taken and run with in the activist community and they would love her forever.
But I doubt she ever meant for Dumbledore to be gay. I think she became incredibly anxious as the spotlight was fading away from her and her stories, and wanted everybody looking at her again.
And it worked.
Impressive, actually.
 
I understand now. My experience with the books is different. I immersed myself in that world over a few months and it help me out of a depression. The reading took longer than normal for me because concentration was difficult but toward the end it wad better. I needed to escape my own mind and thoughts and needed a fantasy world. Spiritual reading is not fantasy and didn’t help, quite the opposite.
 
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