Here is a picture of me about 4 years ago, freshly shaved. (I am on the left).Congratulations! You mentioned shaving completely…Were you a man before?Did you have a beard?
Post pictures if you have any! God bless you.
The Rite of Acceptance also means that the Inquirer Accepts Christianity and is now seeking to be Baptized. From that point forward they are a Catechumen.I am indeed in RCIA, and this Rite Of Acceptance was part of RCIA. It means we were presented to the congregation, who “accepted” us as Candidates and Catechumans of St. Philomena Church
This acceptance means we will now attend the 11 AM Mass, as a group. A special section of pews will be cordoned off for our exclusive use. It is at the front and to the left, so the congregation can see us.
After the Homily, but before the Eucherist, we will be “dismissed”, to attend another hour or so of RCIA class in our classroom.
This “Dismissal” will continue most Sundays from now on, the last one to be on Palm Sunday.
"Well, that may be the case IN THEORY, assuming you can find a Church where Candidates are offered a different program from the Catechumans. That may be what the US Council Of Bishops wanted, but too bad. In practice, RCIA is quite a muddle in most Parishes. And most especially in my area.
Oddly enough, there do exist other opinions. From the FAQ at the website of The Rose Scapular Company…
Yes I have a great problem with this because it is a great disservice to you and would have ignored your valid Baptism. The prayers spoken during the Rite of Acceptance (assumming that they did not make up their own Rite or prayers, which would not supprise me since they seem to be making up their own RCIA process) did not speak of your Baptism or you already being a member of the Christian community because of your Baptism.Well, that may be the case IN THEORY, assuming you can find a Church where Candidates are offered a different program from the Catechumans. That may be what the US Council Of Bishops wanted, but too bad. In practice, RCIA is quite a muddle in most Parishes. And most especially in my area.
In practice, candidates and catechumans are lumped together. We attended the Rite Of Acceptance together. We are dismissed together. We are in RCIA class together. From now to the Easter Vigil we will be together. We will be together at The Rite Of Sending. And the Three Scrutinies. And The Triduum.:getholy:
The only substantial difference will be at The Vigil. Catechumans get their baptism. As the sole Candidate, I will go to confession instead. Then Confirmation and First Eucherist for all.
Do you have a problem with this?
Do not believe everything you read on the internet! The Scapular is a Sacramental and as such it’s use is regulated by the Catholic Church. Yes, a CATHOLIC can put on the Scapular, not a Ceremonial Scapular, one worn under the clothing, even if they are not enrolled if they are seeking to be. A priest cannot enroll you in the Brown Scapular if you are not a practicing Catholic. I’m happy you have a desire to be enrolled, but after you are received into full union with the Catholic Church.Oddly enough, there do exist other opinions. From the FAQ at the website of The Rose Scapular Company…
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I’m not Catholic but I want to wear the Scapular, what if I can’t get to a priest to enroll me? Our answer is put it on anyway and wear it faithfully, try to get to a priest to enroll you if you can. Otherwise we leave you in the hands of the Blessed Mother and Jesus, they often work miracles as we have seen so many times with the Scapular.
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Pretty much the same thing is prrinted twice in the booklet GARMENT OF GRACE. If one cannot find a Priest willing to do the formal investure, put on the scapular anyway as a sign of devotion to Mother Mary. Observe chastity (I do). Do some sort of devotion to Mary daily (I recite the Rosary). It’s HER scapular, and nobody has the right to say you cannot wear it in her honor, asking for her grace and help.
I’m sure many Parishes do it out of ignorance, if the postings of other RCIA Candidates in this forum is any indication. In addition to ignorance, many RCIA programs lack trained Volunteers who know what to do anyhow.
As a matter of fact, it was mentioned to the Congregation that some of us were validly baptized and there as candidates, not catechumans. I am not sure of the exact wording of the prayers as I am hard of hearing.
So THAT’S what the scrutinies are about? I though it was something like questions and answers from the Catechism, which is what I went through in the Lutheran Church Confirmation. I darn near memorized the whole book for teenage confirmation.
Good news…my sponser is active in some sort of rosary fraternity at the Church. (Exact name forgotten
) The group is having some sort of meeting next Sunday at 9 AM, and I have been invited. I’ll ask them about this particular devotion to Mother MaryThis sounds like the rite of elect. Many parishes together with a beautiful ceremony. The bishop or cardinal speaks about your journey.So THAT’S what the scrutinies are about? I though it was something like questions and answers from the Catechism, which is what I went through in the Lutheran Church Confirmation. I darn near memorized the whole book for teenage confirmation.
OK, so that means I’ll just sit politely on the sidelines whilst The Scrutiny is in progress.
Next Question: What exactly is The Rite Of Sending anyhow? I know we will be bussed to Our Lady Of The Angeles Cathedral in Los Angeles on 25 February. We might even get to see the cardinal!
The Rite of Acceptance is for Catechumens only.As a matter of fact, it was mentioned to the Congregation that some of us were validly baptized and there as candidates, not catechumans. I am not sure of the exact wording of the prayers as I am hard of hearing.
And since you seem to be quite knowledgable about this sort of thing…that part of the ceremony where our sponsers repeatedly made the SOTC over parts of our body…was that supposed to be for catechumans only? If so, we candidates got a free ride
O yes, we all got this big wooden cross to wear around our necks at every Dismissal. Plus a Bible.
The Rite of Sending Catechumens is from the early Church. Catechumens were sent to the Bishop who was the ordinary minister of Adult Baptism at the Easter Vigil. As a Candidate you would not be in the Rite of Sending, the Rite of Election or the signing of the Book of the Elect. You would however be invited to attend the Rite of Continuing Conversion for Candidates and receive the Bishops encouragement and blessing. Here the Rite of Election and the Rite of Continuing Conversion. take place at the same location on the same day, but in separate and distinct ceremonies.So THAT’S what the scrutinies are about? I though it was something like questions and answers from the Catechism, which is what I went through in the Lutheran Church Confirmation. I darn near memorized the whole book for teenage confirmation.
OK, so that means I’ll just sit politely on the sidelines whilst The Scrutiny is in progress.
Next Question: What exactly is The Rite Of Sending anyhow? I know we will be bussed to Our Lady Of The Angeles Cathedral in Los Angeles on 25 February. We might even get to see the cardinal!
When is the Chrism Mass usually performed?
THANK YOU! for informing me that the ceremony was called “Signing Of The Senses”. Another golden nugget of information. I love these forums. I am learning so much:thumbsup:
No. But I was under the impression that cingulems, like cinctures, could be worn by anyone. I wear the Cincture of Saint Philomena around my waist, out of sight under my clothing. It is there to remind me of my vow of chastity. (Vow made in private, at home, to BVM and Philomena.)
My wearing the large Rosary (and also using it for Rosary prayers and the Chaplet Of The Divine Mercy) is non-negotiable.? Vows?
"Large wood bead Rosary, draped over the cingulem and hanging down my left side. Clickity-clacking when I walked. If you got it, flaunt it.
If you showed up at our Rite dressed like that I would begin to question your motivation in becoming Catholic.
I’m beginning to understand a bit more now after discussing this with you here.
Well, this WAS, after all, very much a ceremonial occasion. A once in a lifetime ceremonial occasion, after all. I felt it proper to display my dedication. I will, of course, run all this past my sponser next Sunday, and include your (name removed by moderator)ut. After all, she knows what would be considered proper at this particular church. Thank you for your help and (name removed by moderator)ut on all this. You are a credit to this Forum:thumbsup:
