Has anyone here gone to Medjugorge?

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Has anyone here, on this site, made the trip ?
I’m reading this fascinating book about a healing that took place there -
a blue collar book - but kind of exciting -
I do know - the church has NOT officially claimed it authentic - incredibly enough.
 
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Seagull said:
Has anyone here, on this site, made the trip ?
I’m reading this fascinating book about a healing that took place there -
a blue collar book - but kind of exciting -
I do know - the church has NOT officially claimed it authentic - incredibly enough.
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I have been to Medjugorje three times .
 
I’ve never been, but i would like to hear from those who did go.

To be honest, I never believed in the alleged apparitions, but I spent a lot of time reading about it and watching talks from folks who have been there. The conversions have often been miraculous. It made me rethink my original position. Now, I’m up in the air and could go either way. If Our Lady wants me to go, She has to make it known to me loud and clear.
 
Seagull said:
Has anyone here, on this site, made the trip ?
I’m reading this fascinating book about a healing that took place there -
a blue collar book - but kind of exciting -
I do know - the church has NOT officially claimed it authentic - incredibly enough.
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I made the trip in 99. Started in Fatima, → Rome → Assisi → San Giovanni Rotondo → Medjugorje plus many places inbetween. Spent 1 week in Medjugorje. Lots of prayer 👍
 
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I do know - the church has NOT officially claimed it authentic - incredibly enough.
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Not just that, but the official position is that we should defer to the opinion of the Local Ordinary and of the Yugoslavian Bishop’s Conference, which is that it is NOT an authentic apparition.

The fact that people experience the grace of God there is totally irrelevant to the status of the alleged apparitions. No Catholic may participate in events which presume the authenticity of the alleged apparitions at Medjugorje, because the official position is that they are not authentic.
 
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I do know - the church has NOT officially claimed it authentic - incredibly enough.
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Actually the official Church ruling by three Bishops Commissions (they are the competent Church authority) is that there is no evidence of any supernatural happenings in Medjugorie and that the alleged visionaries are frauds. Some people have the mistaken idea that because the CDF has been investigating it no decision has been reached. That is wrong. The local Bishops are the competent Church authorities and they made a decision. Because of the controversy over the years with Catholics divided over this (guess who divides the faithful - Satan not God) the local Bishops asked the CDF to intervene and their first move was to suspend a priest at the centre of this controversy.
Once completed the only thing the CDF will do is either overturn or confirm the decision already made by the Church and until that happens the existing decision made by the local Bishops is valid and in force.
 
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Seagull:
I do know - the church has NOT officially claimed it authentic - incredibly enough.
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Actually the official Church ruling by three Bishops Commissions (they are the competent Church authority) is that there is no evidence of any supernatural happenings in Medjugorie and that the alleged visionaries are frauds. Some people have the mistaken idea that because the CDF has been investigating it no decision has been reached. That is wrong. The local Bishops are the competent Church authorities and they made a decision. Because of the controversy over the years with Catholics divided over this (guess who divides the faithful - Satan not God) the local Bishops asked the CDF to intervene and their first move was to suspend a priest at the centre of this controversy.
Once completed the only thing the CDF will do is either overturn or confirm the decision already made by the Church and until that happens the existing decision made by the local Bishops is valid and in force.
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The Vatican hasn’t given a ruling.

Officially, We await a ruling
 
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The Vatican hasn’t given a ruling.
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We already have the rulings of the Bishop, and of the local council of Bishops, both of which say in no uncertain terms that the alleged apparitions are not authentic. The Vatican has for years deferred to those judgements, and by law that is the current opinion of the Church.
 
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steve-b:
The Vatican hasn’t given a ruling.
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The Vatican has for years deferred to the judgement of the Local Ordinary. The opinion of the Bishop is that the alleged apparitions are not authentic, and so by law that is the current opinion of the Church.
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The question is open. The Vatican has NOT weighed in on it…yay or nay
 
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The question is open. The Vatican has NOT weighed in on it…yay or nay
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That doesn’t change the fact that right now the official position of the Church is that the apparitions are not authentic. Unless overturned by higher authority the ruling of the Local Odinary is authoritative, and the only other ruling that exists is the concurring ruling of the Bishop’s Council.
 
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steve-b:
The question is open. The Vatican has NOT weighed in on it…yay or nay
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That doesn’t change the fact that right now the official position of the Church is that the apparitions are not authentic. Unless overturned by higher authority the ruling of the Local Odinary is authoritative, and the only other ruling that exists is the concurring ruling of the Bishop’s Council.
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If there was a difinitive ruling, it would be shut down metaphorically speaking. No more pilgrimages would be approved
 
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The book tells of millions of people - of all nations going there -
confessions have long lines - German line - Spanish line - English line -
and how the people of the land - made their homes into small hotels -
and many stopped farming - to cash in on the influx of tourists - trinkets galore !
 
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If there was a difinitive ruling, it would be shut down metaphorically speaking. No more pilgrimages would be approved
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Pilgrimages that presume the authenticity of the alleged apparitions are forbidden.
 
So do I. I’m not much for apparitions, but I’ve always had a soft spot for Lourdes. Probably on account of St. Bernadette.
 
I’ve been there twice on the Youth festival Mladí fest. It was very nice and an intense experience. I believe it is possible to feel God’s presence if one is open.
Do I believe Mary appears there? Not sure. What I know for sure is it’s a good business for local people.
 
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The Vatican hasn’t given a ruling.

Officially, We await a ruling
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Its the CDF specifically looking into it. I said in my post they have not come to a conclusion yet. Until they do the existing official Church decision made by the local Bishops remains valid and in force unless the CDF overturn it. That decision is that there is no evidence of any supernatural happenings there. If the CDF overturn it then that changes. If they don’t then the existing decision stands.

Personally I agree with the existing decision and feel that the whole thing is a hoax.
 
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