Has anyone here gone to Medjugorge?

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You can’t evaluate a possible apparition or possible private revelation site by looking at what happens to pilgrims. Of course there will be long lines for confession. Of course many people will have deep spiritual experiences, and Masses will be full.

But this group is made up of people who already made a decision to spend a lot of time and money to travel there. They are good Catholics, no doubt. If you picked a city out of a world atlas, and these people traveled there, they would have (genuine) spiritual experiences there. This does not prove nor disprove the validity of the apparitions/revelations, which might still be valid.

A better way to assess would be to look at the parishes 25 to 100 miles away. Are those people, those who live there permanently, going to confession more than they used to, or more than other places? Are THOSE churches full?

If what happened in Medjurgorje were genuine, the next province over would see a massive evidence of spiritual and corporal works of mercy, closing of birth control and abortion clinics. There would be more babies, rare divorces, more vocations to priesthood and religious life. The same would be true in the town of Medjugorje itself of course, but it is hard to separate out the impact of the pilgrims from the year round persons. That city is a major tourist site now. Look at the region around it.
 
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Medjurgorje is a tricky one.

I just returned from Our Lady of the Pillar in Zaragoza, Spain – that was a pretty fantastic pilgrimage.
 
neophyte said:
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steve-b:
If there was a difinitive ruling, it would be shut down metaphorically speaking. No more pilgrimages would be approved
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Pilgrimages that presume the authenticity of the alleged apparitions are forbidden.
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Reference please
 
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The Vatican hasn’t given a ruling.

Officially, We await a ruling
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Its the CDF specifically looking into it. I said in my post they have not come to a conclusion yet. Until they do the existing official Church decision made by the local Bishops remains valid and in force unless the CDF overturn it. That decision is that there is no evidence of any supernatural happenings there. If the CDF overturn it then that changes. If they don’t then the existing decision stands.

Personally I agree with the existing decision and feel that the whole thing is a hoax.
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Back in 99 when I went there, …well,… let’s just say, no one came away with any such notion.
 
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That doesn’t say one is prohibited from going to Medjugorje, the village of the original visitations of Mary
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What it does say is that the faithful are not permitted to participate in events that presume tha authenticity of the alleged apparitions, on the grounds that the current offical position of the Church is that they are not authentic.
 
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One just can’t participate in any event that assumes Mary actually appears.
 
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It is my understanding that it is partially due to the fact that Mary is still appearing there that no approval has been given.
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Wrong on both counts. The competent authority insists that there are no authentic apparitions, and it’s not necessary for such authority to wait for alleged apparitions to cease before passing judgement.
 
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Dacinom said:
It is my understanding that it is partially due to the fact that Mary is still appearing there that no approval has been given.

Once she stops, then an investigation can be done searching for error, making sure there is none. Approval can’t be given since it’s not known what her final words will be.

All other Marian apparitions were approved after she ceased coming, then we’re investigated for errors and inconsistency.
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Sorry but you have that all wrong.
 
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Has anyone here, on this site, made the trip ?
I’m reading this fascinating book about a healing that took place there -
a blue collar book - but kind of exciting -
I do know - the church has NOT officially claimed it authentic - incredibly enough.
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Haven’t been. I wouldn’t go unless it’s proclaimed to be true by the Church. I don’t think it will be though.
 
Right, but the Pope said something about if they were to approved, only the first seven would be considered. If you read what the apparition says, it’s really weird. They aren’t like all other approved Marian apparitions.
 
I went, as kind of a gift to myself in 1988 after I graduated. I joined a tour group, we met with some of the seers, etc. It was a good experience, but I did come away from it still having no idea whether the apparitions were real or not.
I’ve also been to Lourdes. It was winter, cold and rainy, and I got no sleep in the lousy hotel. I felt little to nothing there, too, although I am a believer in this apparition.
Same with Knock. A cold day, and it was empty, and I believe in this one too. But I felt nothing.
I think God doesn’t give me many good feelings! Anyway, it doesn’t daunt me. I really want to go to Fatima–it is on my bucket list.
 
Pretty sure that discussions about Medjugorge and any other unapproved apparition are still not allowed on this forum.
 
The CDF actually wrote a letter forbidding a Catholic from attending any event where the authenticity of the supposed apparitions at Medjugorje are taken for granted.

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Pilgrimages AREN’T approved, as I understand it. People, even groups of people, attend privately, but that doesn’t mean official encouragement or approval of their doing so.
 
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