Has anyone read the Qu 'ran? (A question for Muslims as well)

[Sister_Amy]

So does that mean you believe souls aren’t waiting until judgement day to go to Heaven?

I would need a lot more knowledge before I could really respond. As it is, I’m not really qualified to make a deep analysis of the story or read into it much. Sorry.

 

[Sister_Amy]

Hmm… After reading these posts, it seems that there are too many different Muslim beliefs for anyone to agree on how it is interpreted.

What is Islam?

Is it just a set of requirements, like belief in the Qu 'ran with no official teaching? I want to know the official meaning of Islam, but I think this has been lost.

algebra really wants to marginalize my point of view, but he’s not admitting to you that what I’m relaying to you accounts for the majority opinion (i.e., the view of Sunni Muslims–who are 85%+ of the world’s Muslims.)

So I am giving you the mainstream, majority, orthodox position. There are extremists, fringe beliefs, and other sects, but they’re far outruled by the majority.

 

[algebra]

algebra really wants to marginalize my point of view, but he’s not admitting to you that what I’m relaying to you accounts for the majority opinion (i.e., the view of Sunni Muslims–who are 85%+ of the world’s Muslims.)

So I am giving you the mainstream, majority, orthodox position. There are extremists, fringe beliefs, and other sects, but they’re far outruled by the majority.

Sufi tariqas are predominantly sunni.

There are shia tariqas too, but sufi traditions are sunni.

There is more plurality within sunni traditions as well.

When you travel to south asia, you can tell me what you find the majority opinion to be.

Please visit a durga there if you get the chance.

Besides the point is what you attack christians for doing, your fellow muslims do just as much.

Yet you post here like its the only position within islam, knowing fully well it is not.

 

[Sister_Amy]

Sufi tariqas are predominantly sunni.

There are shia tariqas too, but sufi traditions are sunni.

There is more plurality within sunni traditions as well.

When you travel to south asia, you can tell me what you find there to be the majority traditions.

Please visit a durga there if you get the chance.

When was the last time you were in “south asia?”

Did you visit any scholars while you were there? Any masajid? Any schools?

I’m not saying that my position is the only one in Islam, but generally I’m not going to go and try to justify fringe and extremist positions. Catholics here aren’t expected to justify Protestantism, Mormonism, etc. when it comes to Christianity, for one thing.

But what I am presenting is the mainstream and it’s the majority–trying to pretend otherwise is misleading people, but I’m pretty sure that’s your objective.

 

[algebra]

When was the last time you were in “south asia?”

Did you visit any scholars while you were there? Any masajid? Any schools?

Actually I did visit many masjids, my in laws in pakistan still think of me as a practicing muslim.

I didnt visit scholars or madrasas, but I did watch alot of PTV, and they have scholars talking about islam all the time.

 

[Sister_Amy]

Actually I did visit many masjids, my in laws in pakistan still think of me as a practicing muslim.

I didnt visit scholars or madrasas, but I did watch alot of PTV, and they have scholars talking about islam all the time.

So you’re still lying to them?

 

[algebra]

But what I am presenting is the mainstream and it’s the majority–trying to pretend otherwise is misleading people, but I’m pretty sure that’s your objective.

But that is my point, its mainstream for north america. But I can assure you that even orthodox sunnis visit durgas and practice mannat in pakistan.

I dont think muslims in pakistan think that praying at durgas is shirk in general.

But I grant you that what you are saying is fairly mainstream for north america.

 

[algebra]

So you’re still lying to them?

If you want to put it that way, yes.