Have you heard a coming-out story from someone who has same-sex attraction?

[Sarcelle]

Yes: from my daughter. We should always follow the Church’s admonition that homosexuals be treated with dignity and respect keeping in mind the caveat that we can not affirm their sin

A good example of this is the way my mother handled it when I was living in sin. She said that while she loved me, she will not give her approval to the lifestyle I chose.

Fair enough, even I knew that. She told me years later that she prayed the rosary daily for me to get back to the Church. She continues to pray the rosary and this time I joined her.

 

[Midwest88]

Yea, my sibling.

Now every time he comes home to visit I have to deal with “Maybe you’re gay, too?” question from him. And every time he gets drunk at a wedding, he buys White Castles and says to me, with a mouthful, “Better than s_cking a [you know]!” Too bad his grindr app collapsed after he had a work event celebrating his company’s LGBT employees due to so many on it on the same time. He has chosen to share his trysts with me and now I have to deal with it, and keep a straight-face and nod and be all “meh whatev whom am I to judge?”

Lovely.

 

[dreamer29]

I really don’t want to know. Call me a prude or old fashioned, but I think that sex or sexual preferences would be better off kept in private. Tell your confessor, your Dr. or your “partner”, but don’t tell me. I have a right to live in oblivion in such matters. Please.

I with you on this. Not my business and where is the privacy these days. Peoples’ life’s are like an open book.

 

[Trident_H]

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Ha! :clapping:

Your kicker, as we call it in the biz, gave me my first chuckle of the day.
Thanks, Trident H!

Oh, wait: Here’s the popcorn…

Later, dude.

Thanks DG. And thanks for the popcorn!

Peace.

-Trident

 

[signit]

No.

I’ve never actually heard a “coming-out story” and don’t particularly want to.

I know individuals who are generally known as gay but they’ve never given me a “coming-out story.”

 

[estesbob]

Actually I hear coming out stories all the time. Generally at AA meetings when somebody comes in and finnally admits that they are an alcoholic. We quickly move to assure them that being an alcoholic is nothing to be ashamed of- alcoholic behavior is . I think we have to look at coming-out stories to see what the motive is for the person coming out ? Is it for them to admit they have an attraction for a sinful behavior and need to work to overcome it or is it a proclamation that th let are going to immerse themselves in the sin?

 

[Trident_H]

Actually I hear coming out stories all the time. Generally at AA meetings when somebody comes in and finnally admits that they are an alcoholic. We quickly move to assure them that being an alcoholic is nothing to be ashamed of- alcoholic behavior is . I think we have to look at coming-out stories to see what the motive is for the person coming out ? Is it for them to admit they have an attraction for a sinful behavior and need to work to overcome it or is it a proclamation that th let are going to immerse themselves in the sin?

Yeah. That’s the ticket. That’s why I’m upfront about it. It’s not a behavior I’m flaunting. It’s an attraction I’m fighting. So it’s out there as a fair warning. As a sign that this guy might look a pretty reasonable bet. But you might also want to consider his checked baggage before getting on the same flight with him.

Or something.

 

[HeartnSoulMan]

I have heard stories. It is not the stories that matter it is the individual and what is good for the individuals life with God.

To have homosexual desires as long as they are rejected the person is practicing the virtue of purity. If a person becomes aware that all their sexual desires seem to be directed toward same sex attraction then they should know immediately that they have been called by God to remain single and chaste their whole life long.

The only path from God for a homosexual is a chaste one. In my opinion people with same sex attraction should not consider themselves even possibly being directed toward the priesthood. This is because if you would fail you would create much more grave consequences for Our Holy Mother the Church. This is clearly evident from past coming out stories concerning priests who have failed in their care of the faithful.

This providential direction to chastity is something that none homosexual persons wrestles with often throughout a great portion of their lives. They worry whether they are called to marriage or should enter religious life or just remain single. Only one of these chooses is the path God has willed for the individual.

No one on earth is called by God to sin.

 

[Thorolfr]

You would not want your son or daughter to share with you if they were gay?

Wouldn’t a parent, for example, wonder what is going on if their son didn’t seem to be interested in having a girlfriend or getting married to a woman? Wouldn’t it cross their mind that such a son might be gay and wouldn’t they want to know?

 

[drac16]

Yes, I’ve heard a few. Every once in a while, on an Islamic forum that I go to, I see persons who come out, or they’re in the closet and want to come out. It’s important that we listen to homosexuals. Many people will say things to homosexuals, but not many will sit and listen to their stories. We have two ears and one mouth so that we’ll listen twice as much as we talk.

What I tend to do in those situations is listen to their stories, first and foremost. Some of these stories keep me up at night because many of these persons have been through horrible things. Next, I like to show them scriptures from the Qur’an that teach that they’re not hopeless and that Allah cares about them. I do that to show that I’m not coming from a position of malice-- I am coming from the perspective of the Qur’an. Although they won’t like it, what homosexuals need to hear is that they were created to strive for that much transcends the ego-- and homosexuality is one of the sins that are derived from a person’s ego.

Worship is the reason for our existance and homosexuality doesn’t address that.

 

[HeartnSoulMan]

I have heard stories. It is not the stories that matter it is the individual and what is good for that individuals’ life with God.

To have homosexual desires, as long as they are rejected the person is practicing the virtue of purity. If a person becomes aware that all their sexual desires seem to be directed toward same sex attraction then they should know immediately that they have been called by God to remain single and chaste their whole life long.

The only path from God for a homosexual is a chaste one. In my opinion people with same sex attraction should not consider themselves even possibly being directed toward the religious life. This is because if you fail you create much more grave consequences for Our Holy Mother the Church. This is clearly evident from past coming out stories concerning priests who have failed in their care of the faithful.

This providential direction to chastity is something that non-homosexual persons often wrestle with throughout even great portion of their lives. They worry about whether they are really called to marriage or religious life or should they just remain single. Only one of these choices is the path that God has willed for that individual. Some people are so confused and afraid of choosing wrongly that they fail to do anything at all with their lives.

No one on earth is called by God to sin.

I apologize for all my mistakes in the first posting which I did not have time to check.

 

[Trident_H]

I have heard stories. It is not the stories that matter it is the individual and what is good for that individuals’ life with God.

To have homosexual desires, as long as they are rejected the person is practicing the virtue of purity. If a person becomes aware that all their sexual desires seem to be directed toward same sex attraction then they should know immediately that they have been called by God to remain single and chaste their whole life long.

The only path from God for a homosexual is a chaste one. In my opinion people with same sex attraction should not consider themselves even possibly being directed toward the religious life. This is because if you fail you create much more grave consequences for Our Holy Mother the Church. This is clearly evident from past coming out stories concerning priests who have failed in their care of the faithful.

This providential direction to chastity is something that non-homosexual persons often wrestle with throughout even great portion of their lives. They worry about whether they are really called to marriage or religious life or should they just remain single. Only one of these choices is the path that God has willed for that individual. Some people are so confused and afraid of choosing wrongly that they fail to do anything at all with their lives.

No one on earth is called by God to sin.

I apologize for all my mistakes in the first posting which I did not have time to check.

Hey no worries. This hits all of us now and then. Like the time I told a guy to do the exact opposite of what I wanted him to do. Because I forgot to put the word ‘not’ in there.

Glad someone caught it though. Pointed it out in time.

Peace HSM. And welcome man!

-Trident

 

[on_the_hill]

A woman I work with told me about her daughter’s “coming out.”

A friend told me he was bisexual but he didn’t tell me anything about his experiences related to “coming out.” He just out-and-out told me, and that was that. Although, he *was *upset with me because I didn’t get angry or condemn him. I guess he felt angry with himself and wanted me to hate him.

a) I kind of already knew from rumors but I didn’t tell him that.
b) I didn’t care.

 

[HeartnSoulMan]

When the legislation on same sex marriage was in discussion in Parliament, I was working with a member of parliament in speech writing.

They had a phone-in survey of what their constituents thought about allowing same-sex marriage. There was a number and then you press one or two to cast your vote. After the weekend we checked the totals. Initially there were something like 14,602 against and 17,957 in favor of same-sex marriage.

I asked the MP if they could determine through the service how many separate numbers called in the votes. There was a process to check and after checking it came out that the 14,602 against came from about the same number of different phones. On the other hand the 17,957 votes that favored same-sex marriage came from only 10 different numbers.

My MP made only one call to another MP who checked in this same way in his riding and the results were about the same with almost all the votes in favor of same-sex marriage coming from only a handful of phones.

Later that day the government released the statement that Canadians were overwhelmingly in favor of the legislation completely ignoring the phony and falsified results.

The numbers used to represent the number of votes are not meant to be accurate but they are in the right ballpark and percentages. There was somewhere between 3,000 - 4,000 more votes in favor of same sex marriage registered in the online survey. However, the actual number of phones used to cast all of the votes in favor of sames-sex marriage is correct at 10.

 

[Thorolfr]

When the legislation on same sex marriage was in discussion in Parliament, I was working with a member of parliament in speech writing.

They had a phone-in survey of what their constituents thought about allowing same-sex marriage. There was a number and then you press one or two to cast your vote. After the weekend we checked the totals. Initially there were something like 14,602 against and 17,957 in favor of same-sex marriage.

I asked the MP if they could determine through the service how many separate numbers called in the votes. There was a process to check and after checking it came out that the 14,602 against came from about the same number of different phones. On the other hand the 17,957 votes that favored same-sex marriage came from only 10 different numbers.

My MP made only one call to another MP who checked in this same way in his riding and the results were about the same with almost all the votes in favor of same-sex marriage coming from only a handful of phones.

Later that day the government released the statement that Canadians were overwhelmingly in favor of the legislation completely ignoring the phony and falsified results.

The numbers used to represent the number of votes are not meant to be accurate but they are in the right ballpark and percentages. There was somewhere between 3,000 - 4,000 more votes in favor of same sex marriage registered in the online survey. However, the actual number of phones used to cast all of the votes in favor of sames-sex marriage is correct at 10.

A phone in survey is a pretty useless and unscientific way to find out what the public believes. It would be necessary to do a random scientific poll to find out.

 

[estesbob]

A phone in survey is a pretty useless and unscientific way to find out what the public believes. It would be necessary to do a random scientific poll to find out.

I am interested is why they thought they had to take a poll in the first place. Morality is not determined by majority vote

 

[Rau]

Oh, and my ex-boyfriend. We broke up when I caught him looking at male porn. At the time he was in complete denial about being gay and said he was only curious. A few years later he took me to lunch and admitted during lunch that he was gay and that he’d started dating a man. He and I had been talking marriage, so I’m glad about the porn thing as it tipped me off he was gay before we got married.

How can a man who later professes to be homosexusl, progress a romantic relationship with a woman to the point of discussing marriage?

 

[Thorolfr]

I am interested is why they thought they had to take a poll in the first place. Morality is not determined by majority vote

I guess you didn’t read the post I was replying to: “They had a phone-in survey of what their constituents thought about allowing same-sex marriage.”

The survey was to find out what constituents “thought about allowing same-sex marriage.” It wasn’t a survey that pretended to determine morality.

 

[Trident_H]

How can a man who later professes to be homosexusl, progress a romantic relationship with a woman to the point of discussing marriage?

By trying really hard. If my experience can be any kind of guide in that. In thinking that the cure to SSA is to get really serious with a girl. To sort of put your hopes in that.

But good luck with it. Because it can maybe help mask things for a bit. It can give a guy hope that he’s over that side of things for a little while. By giving him a distraction from it. By giving him a strong physical proxy. But it does nothing to end the desire. It does nothing to end his strong pull there. Even if they get married. Like in my case. All that happened was a lot of mental fantasies. To keep relations possible. In the end it’s a lot of mental games to get things to make sense. To keep trying to go with the flow of it. Until it all comes unraveled. Because of a single mistake. A single miss can reveal the lie.

Peace Rau.

-Trident

 

[lemongrass80]

I really don’t want to know. Call me a prude or old fashioned, but I think that sex or sexual preferences would be better off kept in private. Tell your confessor, your Dr. or your “partner”, but don’t tell me. I have a right to live in oblivion in such matters. Please.

So if a man is in a relationship with another man, and partners/spouses/ relationships comes up in conversation, what should he do as to not offend your sensibilities? Pretend to be straight? Pretend to be single? Hide an important aspect of his life?

There is a difference between talking about the nitty gritty of your sex life, and simply taking about your life and who you share it with.