Have you heard of the term "cafeteria" catholic?

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Even priests it seems expect everyone to receive. Sometimes they have a look of disbelief when someone crosses their arms just wishing a blessing. People don’t realize that not taking part in the Eucharist if not in a state of Grace is much more reverent than taking it. Actually it’s a mortal sin, it’s sacrilege. Going to Mass is not fulfilled by taking the Eucharist. It seems people don’t even get that anymore.
 
Can someone start a petition to add for the next set of rubrics that the priest says before the consecration, “Now, for those who believe fully in the Faith and are in the state of Grace, we will begin the consecration of the Eucharist to make present the Crucifixion of Our Lord Jesus Christ” or something so that sacrilege might not occur so often?
 
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Even priests it seems expect everyone to receive. Sometimes they have a look of disbelief when someone crosses their arms just wishing a blessing. People don’t realize that not taking part in the Eucharist if not in a state of Grace is much more reverent than taking it. Actually it’s a mortal sin, it’s sacrilege. Going to Mass is not fulfilled by taking the Eucharist. It seems people don’t even get that anymore.
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Maybe because going up for a blessing is inappropriate. Adults should know to keep their hind ends in the pew if not recieving.
 
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Even priests it seems expect everyone to receive… People don’t realize that not taking part in the Eucharist if not in a state of Grace is much more reverent than taking it.
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I don’t understand why the Bishops and priests don’t correct this, and the related, very-common problem of not going to Confession.
 
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I don’t understand why the Bishops and priests don’t correct this.
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You assume people will listen when the priest says “Don’t come up for a blessing if you don’t mean to receive the Eucharist.”
 
I’m not talking about coming up for a blessing. I haven’t heard of adults doing this til now.

As far as them not listening when told not to receive if they are not fully assenting to Church teaching, and in a state of grace… some will not listen.

But if the clergy don’t preach the truth about the meaning of the Eucharist, then are they are partly culpable for the sacrileges?
 
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I’m not talking about coming up for a blessing. I haven’t heard of adults doing this til now.

As far as them not listening when told not to receive if they are not fully assenting to Church teaching, and in a state of grace… some will not listen.

But if the clergy don’t preach the truth about the meaning of the Eucharist, then are they are partly culpable for the sacrileges?
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Because they don’t want to be a “bad guy”

Fortunately, programs like Lifeteen require the priest to read a disclaimer about receiving the Eucharist. Many Newman centers do it, too. But at reguar masses I think there are so few attendees it’s assumed they all know what they are doing.
 
Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
Because they don’t want to be a “bad guy”
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We need to pray more to Our Lady for priests, especially that they would preach more about devotion to Our Lady, which is “the driving force of Catholicity”. If they emphasize Our Lady and Christ’s Divine Mercy, they can preach the truth and emphasize God’s Goodness.
 
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It seems that only those who practice it have not heard of it. I can envision that, from the judgment seat, it appears that they are first and foremost, unfaithful. Faith requires submission and assent. Either or both is lacking in those who pick and choose. The Gospel is a synthesis of all aspects of faith and morality. To willfully reject any part of the seamless garment risks rejecting all. By definition such rejection is either lacking faith, morality, or both. Most dangerous ground to dig one’s heels into.
 
People,

Could we STOP assuming what others believe or don’t.
 
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I’m not talking about coming up for a blessing. I haven’t heard of adults doing this til now.

As far as them not listening when told not to receive if they are not fully assenting to Church teaching, and in a state of grace… some will not listen.

But if the clergy don’t preach the truth about the meaning of the Eucharist, then are they are partly culpable for the sacrileges?
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Because they don’t want to be a “bad guy”

Fortunately, programs like Lifeteen require the priest to read a disclaimer about receiving the Eucharist. Many Newman centers do it, too. But at reguar masses I think there are so few attendees it’s assumed they all know what they are doing.
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Whoa whoa whoa there. Are you saying that regular Sunday Masses have very few people attending? May I ask what region you live in? Or is it that you attend a tiny parish? Or is it one of those old parishes where the Catholics have moved on?
 
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Loud-living-dogma said:
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Xanthippe_Voorhees:
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patricius79:
I’m not talking about coming up for a blessing. I haven’t heard of adults doing this til now.

As far as them not listening when told not to receive if they are not fully assenting to Church teaching, and in a state of grace… some will not listen.

But if the clergy don’t preach the truth about the meaning of the Eucharist, then are they are partly culpable for the sacrileges?
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Because they don’t want to be a “bad guy”

Fortunately, programs like Lifeteen require the priest to read a disclaimer about receiving the Eucharist. Many Newman centers do it, too. But at reguar masses I think there are so few attendees it’s assumed they all know what they are doing.
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Whoa whoa whoa there. Are you saying that regular Sunday Masses have very few people attending? May I ask what region you live in? Or is it that you attend a tiny parish? Or is it one of those old parishes where the Catholics have moved on?
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Compared to holidays all churches do poorly on a weekly basis.

But yes, I do live in a very liberal anti-Catholic area where according to the CARA survey 80% of church goers are over 65. And that’s reflective of the diocese not just one parish.
 
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Thanks for that answer. I am fortunate to live in the Midwest where the Church seems to be thriving - - and our parish is usually quite full And lots of little kids to smile at and be distracted by! : )
That would be hard to live in a very anti-Catholic area. We were visiting family in Toronto last summer, and when we went to Mass on a Sunday morning, I could literally feel the hostility from some people as we were walking to church. I guess I could have been imagining it though! 😂
 
Loud-living-dogma said:
Thanks for that answer. I am fortunate to live in the Midwest where the Church seems to be thriving - - and our parish is usually quite full And lots of little kids to smile at and be distracted by! : )
That would be hard to live in a very anti-Catholic area. We were visiting family in Toronto last summer, and when we went to Mass on a Sunday morning, I could literally feel the hostility from some people as we were walking to church. I guess I could have been imagining it though! 😂
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I don’t know about Toronto…but I probably wouldn’t discount your experience.

Priests around here are allowed not to wear collars. We are not that far from the scandal epicenter…many people who remember those priests and leaders retire here.

Priests have been spat on. Have tires slashed. They magically don’t get seated in restaurants. Police turn a blind eye. There are a few nice restaurants that are kind to the priests–so we go there…but upon hearing how the priests are treated sometimes restaurants can garner more popularity by treating them bad.

My co-worker was fired for “poor performance” following a “hostile gesture” after 12 years of perfect reviews. Magically after she showed up to a large meeting with ashes. I had more than one co-worker try to get me fired for “making a hostile workplace” simply because they found out I was Catholic—even though I didn’t say a peep, other than reserve my right not to put their LGBT-Marriage sticker on my cubicle.

I’ve been to DC, AZ and parts of Cali. It IS different there…but around here you can pretty much guarnetee if someone shows up for Mass (except for the C&E crowd) they want to be there and they know what they are doing.
 
So many forget the anticatholicism that is in the US in the here and now… I was doing mission work in Kentuck over my winter break, and apparently the KKK burnt down a Catholic church, according to multiple people, including the pastor of the church we stayed at/worked with.
 
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So many forget the anticatholicism that is in the US in the here and now… I was doing mission work in Kentuck over my winter break, and apparently the KKK burnt down a Catholic church, according to multiple people, including the pastor of the church we stayed at/worked with.
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I’m the opposite. I forget that there are places where it isn’t hard to be Catholic in the US. I probably wouldn’t of believed it if I didn’t see it with my own eyes.
 
Back in the day… long ago… my neighborhood Catholic Church was threatened to be burned by the KKK. So the men got together with guns and clubs and confronted the bigots! The KKK left town quickly and never came back 😒🚬
 
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