Head of Vatican's Highest Court: Ministers Have "Obligation to Deny" Communion to Pro-Abortion Politicians

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JimR-OCDS said:
The problem here is, the way the Bishops in the US handled the sex abuse scandal, damaged their moral credibility to the point that many Catholics will take such threats with a grain of salt.

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Which is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
 
If the USCCB act in unison, it would not be an idol threat, but an enforceable plan of action. Much needed and never too late.
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Deacon Ed B
 
Will the USCCB refuse communion to all politicians that have supported and still do support abortion no matter how high an office they hold? I don’t think I will hold my breath as deliberate knowledgeable suicide is a sin.
 
estesbob said:
Which is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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Oh but it is relevant.

When the Vatican comes out with statements concerning politicians being prohibited from receiving communion because of their votes on abortion issues, the public and many Catholics merely look back at the lack of moral judgment in the sex scandal and scoff.

Jim
 
peregrinus_WA said:
But it still does not prevent some from wielding it like a flange mace against Catholic moral teachings. :(:mad:
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In my personal experience it has been those that were not involved that make the most noise. People with an agenda.🤷

The people I know that had actual problems with this have been quiet and prayerful or made their peace with the situation in other ways then “loud and angry”.
 
estesbob said:
Because voting in support of killing if children is a heinous** public** sin and one who does so seperates themselves from the church.
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This is one reason I resent the media’s use of the term Pro-Choice Catholic, when in fact they are merely baptized/confirmed Catholics who have ex-communicated themselves from the Church by virtue of their support for abortion.

It is silly to think that God does not know their minds. There is no way that the murder of innocent pre-born infants can ever be justified.
 
Jerome42 said:
It silly to think that God does not know their minds. There is no way that the murder of innocent pre-born infants can ever be justified.
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Yes, God knows minds and hearts and I think there will be a whole lot of stammering and stuttering one day down the line.
prayers & blessings for all
Deacon Ed B
 
JimR-OCDS said:
The problem here is, the way the Bishops in the US handled the sex abuse scandal, damaged their moral credibility to the point that many Catholics will take such threats with a grain of salt.

Jim
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Are such Catholics willing to risk their **imortal souls ** by taking such serious matters with “a grain of salt”???

Remember, Priests and Bishops are mere mortals and they will be judged by God on a much higher standard.
 
KCT said:
How would one know if the person presenting themselves for Communion didn’t go to Confession the night before?
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**That being the case, public repudiation of this very public stance would have to have been made prior to absolution.
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Jerome42 said:
That being the case, public repudiation of this very public stance would have to have been made prior to absolution.
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Just as we are told to make amends to those we have offended if at all possible, politicians would be expected to publicly renounce their prior pro-choice stance. If they just privately confess and then do nothing to change the ongoing situation then it is possible that the repentance is not what it should be.
 
This morning I watched on tv as cameras followed a certain recently named candidate to his catholic church. I also heard in that same segment how that certain candidate was a pro-choice catholic.

So the question is, with that certain candidate creating obvious scandal by disobeying and opposing the Pope on this issue of abortion, will his priest or bishop do the right thing and stand up publicly and call him to repent this position and refuse him communion? Is his Catholic diocese a toothless tiger, or will the clergy there stand up for the values of the church and do what’s right?

I fear they will not. And that saddens me. Because this is a huge stage, and it is a huge moment for the church to be true to itself. It could be a great moment for the church to reassert its prolife stand.

I will pray that his diocese does the right thing.
 
I’m glad to see the RCC has people with the courage to stand up for the Church’s teachings regarding the sanctity of life.👍

Catholics: does it bother you at all to see Protestants who are more in-line with RCC teachings than many of your fellow Catholics? Just curious.
 
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Jesus did not deny His grace to sinners.
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True, but people are still called to repentance.
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I did not mean to imply we are not called to repentance.
What I did intend to imply is that in order to hear that call we, like the Good Thief, may require very close contact with Jesus Himself to truly realize the magnitude of His love.

Each time I receive Him, I am awed by His love for me and I am overcome with gratitude that He persistently nudges me towards my path as I walk my journey through life.

He continually reaches out to me, a sinner.
I can not deny HIm to others who so desperately need Him.

Go with Love, Go with God
 
thomasf said:
This morning I watched on tv as cameras followed a certain recently named vp candidate to his catholic church. I also heard in that same segment how that certain candidate was a pro-choice catholic and it was the hope of the presidential candidate that by chosing him it would bring catholics to his side.

So the question is, with that certain candidate creating obvious scandal by disobeying and opposing the Pope on this issue of abortion, will his priest or bishop do the right thing and stand up publicly and call him to repent this position and refuse him communion? Is the catholic church in Delaware a toothless tiger, or will the clergy there stand up for the values of the church and do what’s right?

I fear they will not. And that saddens me. Because this is a huge stage, and it is a huge moment for the church to be true to itself. It could be a great moment for the church to reassert its prolife stand.

I will pray that the Delaware church does the right thing.
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I should hope that in the not too distant future those lax North American Priests/Bishops will be called upon to publically apologize to the laity for their cowardice in confronting political threats regarding tax exempt status as well as threats of witholding money from the collection basket.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Oh but it is relevant.

When the Vatican comes out with statements concerning politicians being prohibited from receiving communion because of their votes on abortion issues, the public and many Catholics merely look back at the lack of moral judgment in the sex scandal and scoff.

Jim
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Relative only for those who are looking for an excuse to reject Catholic teaching. If it had not been a homosexual clergy scandal those people would find another excuse to vote for those who aid and abet the killing of our children
 
Jerome42 said:
This is one reason I resent the media’s use of the term Pro-Choice Catholic, when in fact they are merely baptized/confirmed Catholics who have ex-communicated themselves from the Church by virtue of their support for abortion.

It is silly to think that God does not know their minds. There is no way that the murder of innocent pre-born infants can ever be justified.
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Actually its a front group funded almost entirely by Planned Parenthood. The very name is an oxymoron. They might as well start a group called Jews for Hitler
 
estesbob said:
Relative only for those who are looking for an excuse to reject Catholic teaching. If it had not been a homosexual clergy scandal those people would find another excuse to vote for those who aid and abet the killing of our children
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It may be an excuse, or it may not, The fact is, the Bishop’s caused great harm to the moral credibilty of the Catholic Church.

As a result, people don’t pay much attention anymore.

I’m not agreeing with them, but just stating a fact.

Jim
 
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