This is not a discussion of whether or not to help those in need. There is no argument against our need to do that. The discussion is about how best to do that. unfortunately some here are blind to every option other than class warfare and forced wealth redistribution. Others of us would like to see personal choice allowing the money to go to those who need and deserve it.
Are you proposing that those situations are mutually exclusive? Money is available in the form of charity for those in desparate need. Prior to the government caused housing collapse and the resulting draw down in jobs, there were plenty of opportunities for people to get jobs. There are still jobs out there but are getting harder and harder to find due to the strain welfare is putting on the ecconomy. So Bottom line is that it isn’t the the innovation driven by the free market system that is the problem, it is the extensive burden put on the ecconomy by wastefull government spending.
That’s probably a good idea. I told him I’d been in the ER before and had received toradol and it had worked. I thought he would treat me as someone who deserved at least a modicum of respect. Some physicians are into this “god complex” and they don’t want mere patients telling them what is wrong. I wanted him to know that although I was in severe pain I was not asking for opiates as I had plenty of them already. I knew exactly what I needed. I think this particular physician probably had fallen for some stories before and I feel bad about that. People who go from ER to ER and from doctor to doctor seeking opiates or whatever give those of us who really need pain medication a bad reputation.
Tim, I’m sorry that I missed your post. I like your signature very much. Could you please tell me where you got it?
s of poor who choose to be so. Born into a welfare check and staying there for life is not acceptable. Welfare should be a hand up, not a hand out. This great land is great because of free enterprise, not government handouts. One must be responsible for himself at some point in his life. The Constitution is 8 pages long. The senate version of healthcare reform is 2000 pages of who knows what. In those pages I have no doubt, there lies a viper, in abortion, just waiting to strike, and have me and you paying for it with tax dollars. How much innocent blood of infants must be poured on liberal alters, before catholics wake up and start voteing their faith. Is it more important to be democrat than to be catholic? The last election says yes. 54% of supposed catholic christians voted for this present slap to the face of GOD. I was democrat for 50 years. When the clintons had the whitehouse immorality ruled the day and I could no longer be Catholic and dem. I am presently independent, but will only vote prolife. I pray for all catholics, that they would stand up for Jesus first, always. The only way to stop the dems. and make the party like it was and should be is to not vote for any leftwinger it puts forth. When it returns to it working man roots, vote it in. As long as it does everything from the far left, then the radicals rule it and no one can support it and the church at the same time. The futher it goes to the left, the more depraved it becomes. Healthcare doesnt need government style reform. It needs free market reform. Govt. regulations created the mess it is in now. Less govt. is better govt.I have been denied coverage by over twenty insurance companies across half a dozen states. Explain to me how the free market is going to suddenly make them want to sell me a policy that doesn’t cost greater than 75% of my income? They deny me because they are free to do so and they will continue to do so until I die. I am on my second bankruptcy from medical bills, working on my third. I am only 29.
The insurance companies do not controll your income. So they can not be held accountable for the ratio of their prices to your income. You are also free to ban with others in your situation to create an insurance company. If you say that is impossible because your situation is so rare, then there is no reason to destroy our entire countries medical system for such a rare situation. Instead allow the ample charity that is being hijacked by leaches to be used to address your situation.
Situations like mine are not rare, but every single person I know in this situation, their medical bills are larger than their incomes. Exactly how do you believe that hundreds, if not thousands of people who all have bills larger than their incomes EVERY YEAR will somehow get a lower price by banding together? That’s simply absurd.
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If you are that much into the being conservative, then you know that money is printed out of thin air with the value of it controled by insiders and not by markets, thus money supply and value of it have no connect. Therefore with the current system with nothing backing the dollar up the insiders can print our way out of debt if they so decide. All the national debt is is an entry in a ledger book, and can be wiped away when they feel like it. There are insider forces controling both parties that get their way. Instead of worrying about future debt, take advantage of their corrupt ystem and make the most of it.
Ah, I knew this was coming. Would you just have me commit suicide then, for the ‘betterment of society’? Since my existence is oh so great a burden on your POCKETBOOK? You are making the same arguments you have in the past lambasted Obama for. You want to give me a pain pill, something to just make it go away, so I will sleep forever.
Amd the solutions are there, but Americans are stubborn and would much rather fail doing thing their stupid idiodic way than succede doing things someone elses way. Americans don’t worship the true God, they worship business. And the business man worhsips mutitasking. America is no more christian than anyone else. Those who are repsonsible for the rejections that lead to Pathia get is this prediciment had better fear for their souls. Too givie everyone a hint, when the sheep are lined up on the right and the goats on the left of God, they will be amugnst the goats for sure.
I am not asking to take anything from you . You are the one who is asking to take from others. Every dollar I have represents a portion of my life. You are the one who is advocating the taking of life not me.
Where did God say to steal for the betterment of others?
You asked me to put a price on my life.
Where did God say it was OK for a party to revoke a legal contract, full well knowing it will make the person toxic to all contracts in the future, thus condemning them to a lifetime of debt and poverty? Oh, and get billion dollar stock bonuses for doing it!
You are asking that we pay that price so we should have a right to know what it is, right?
Obviously never to my knowledge. If such an event happened you have grounds for a law suit.
It happens all the time, it’s called rescission. It’s legal. It happened to me when I was less than a year old and again when I was 17. Technically you could say it was done to my father, as it was his contract. The insurance companies decided I was too expensive, found some loopholes and kicked us out of the contract.
There will be no stealing going on. It a redirection of priorities with money altready taxed.