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Is food a right? Is shelter a right? Not something we wish everybody had, but are they really up there with freedom? Are you willing to die to keep your “right” to shelter? People always want to compare healthcare to basic necessities.
 
sherriequilts said:
Health care or health insurance??

Sherrie
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Exactly

Health Care is most likely a right under the basis sense

For example I have a right to health care if I am sick

Health Insurance came about to spread my risk over many - so that if I get sick my income and wealth can be protected
 
You have a right to extend your life to the extent that you are able or able to purchase, if that’s what you mean.
 
Of course health care is right…We all should aware about our health…
After all “A healthy mind lives in a healthy body.”
 
No, it’s not a right… It is however the duty of every healthy person to provide health care to those in need. This doesn’t have to mean “government run health care”, but it does mean we should always be striving to ensure all those who need care are able to receive it.
31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:
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36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: **Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me. **
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41 Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. 44 Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? 45 Then he shall answer them, saying: **Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.
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46 And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting. **
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You can’t have a right without a duty. They are two sides of the same coin.

So, if receiving healthcare is a right, who has the duty to supply it?

If the answer is “society” or “the government,” then society or the government has to come up with the resources to fulfill the duty. Nowadays, they come up with resources by taxing people.

So, by saying that society or the government has the duty to supply healthcare, people are saying that everyone who makes enough money to be taxed has the duty, enforceable by law, to pay money to the goverment so that the government can buy healthcare for people whether they want it or not, and whether the people being taxed want to pay for it or not.

In other words, when someone says “we” have a duty to supply healthcare, what s/he is often saying is “you” have a duty to supply healthcare, and the government should be empowered to force you to fulfill that duty.

I think it’s morally wrong to force other people to make the same types of charitable donations that I want to make.
 
Pope John Paul II, Laborem Exercens:
Besides wages, various social benefits intended to ensure the life and health of workers and their families play a part here. The expenses involved in health care, especially in the case of accidents at work, demand that medical assistance should be easily available for workers, and that as far as possible it should be cheap or even free of charge.
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Is there an error in equating Society exclusively to Government. Is not the Church a component of that Society? Isn’t that why the Church had hospitals and ;nursing orders?

Once the Church makes the Government the sole supporter of Society, She loses Her ability to control what that Society does. The Government gets to make all the rules.
The Golden Rule - He Who Has the Gold Makes the Rules.
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nodito said:
Pope John Paul II, Laborem Exercens: Besides wages, various social benefits intended to ensure the life and health of workers and their families play a part here. The expenses involved in health care, especially in the case of accidents at work, demand that medical assistance should be easily available for workers, and that as far as possible it should be cheap or even free of charge.
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Emphasis added. But this is a good point. It should be available to workers. It doesn’t say it should guaranteed to non-workers. And this current health care plan is to take from WORKERS and give to (for the most part) NON-WORKERS (regardless of why they are not working).
 
Arwen037 said:
Emphasis added. But this is a good point. It should be available to workers. It doesn’t say it should guaranteed to non-workers. And this current health care plan is to take from WORKERS and give to (for the most part) NON-WORKERS (regardless of why they are not working).
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But we should, of course always be charitable to those whom are on the streets and have little other recourse. To turn our backs on them, is to turn our backs on God.
 
**Before I can say whether health care is a right, please define health care… **

Is it preventing someone from dying? -then I say it is the doctors duty as a child of God to save them.

Is it giving someone cough syrup for a runny nose? NO

Is it paying for a tummy tuck? NO
 
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