Hello, A Satanist has joined you

[gurneyhalleck1]

Great points…

When I was younger, and taking shots at Catholics (well, Christians in general - I grew up pagan, essentially), it was largely out of ignorance. I hadn’t a clue what they really believed.

When I was older, though, and lapsed from the faith? I took a much greater interest in taking shots at Catholicism. I bragged constantly about how happy I was to be free of my temporary insanity, so much more satisfied now that I was no longer chasing after infinity and enraptured by a desert wight who got a little too big for his britches. Honestly, though, I was angry and mostly just wanted someone to prove me wrong. Or, really, even bother to engage with me. In the end, one of the main things that brought me back home was just someone actually taking the time to invite me.

So - in either sense it’s always a plus when someone deep in the occult or whatever else comes to my doorstep. It’s a chance to set things right, in one way or another, and potentially (Re)introduce someone to the love of Christ. After all, the line between hatred and love is awful fine.

 

[Bear_Claw]

You have every right to find the Christian faith absurd. And I would question your motivations and feelings in coming onto a Catholic message board full of faithful Catholics who love the Lord Jesus Christ? I would never in a million years desire to go on a message board and read the rantings of atheists and their dim, drab, empty view of the cosmos. I have nothing to learn from them and would do nothing but encounter venom and hostility. The only reason I would go there were if I myself were considering atheism. Or possibly if I were a troll. There is no shortage of trolling on the internet.

sigh I guess you guys just don’t understand the motivation for an atheist to come here. It’s the first thing that gets’ flung at me on a regular basis.
I’m not here to be a troll or to take stabs at y’all in any way…I like the dialogue and the intelligent discussions on faith (or lack thereof) issues.
The sad truth is that folks like me get labeled as intruders and trolls as soon as we ask any questions.
Some days it’s more interesting to chat to folks in the opposing camp than it would be to keep speaking to Atheists. I mean I could go onto the boards and take part in talkin’ smack about the Christians, but I find speaking to y’all and seeing your perspectives, and sharing mine much more stimulating.
If I’m unwelcome here, I won’t be offended, or surprised, really, just lemme know, k?

And I’m never worried about offending the Devil. Not at all. If someone chooses to champion Satan, I have no time for that and will not be politically correct giving group hugs.

(bold mine)
And yet you keep posting in his thread making fun of him? Hmmm…maybe I miss-understand and it’s not time, but rather tolerance?

Sorry, it’s a bit difficult to sense tones of posts online

 

[RebeccaJ]

Who knows where he went off to? Maybe he bought the Alister Crowley mansion once owned by Jimmy Page where the Lock Ness Monster lived? Maybe he’s started a new Witch Coven and is too busy to post? Perhaps he’s fanning the fires of Mephistopheles! lol…or is a DJ at a death metal radio station. Hard telling…

I still crack up at this dumb thread title, sounds so perky! “hello! A Satanist has joined you!” I hear the Leave it to Beaver " and “Dick Van **** Show” themes going while that is said…

Maybe he/she won a multi-million dollar lottery, bought a private island, and is busy drinking piña coladas on the beach. :tanning:

or

Since he/she said they were a teenager, maybe he/she got grounded.

 

[raqrodriguez]

AMEN

Why in the world are we so respectful to a philosophy that defines itself by it’s opposition to God? Why do we rip other Christians apart based on what amount to minor disagreements over theology but bend over backwards to be respectful to those who seem to set themselves up in opposition to God?

I myself believe that when dealing with Satanist and such we need to slowly and gently open their eyes. When most people feel they are being attacked they fight back or run off. What a sad thing either way. What if taking a different approach, a more positive and Christ-like approach of being passive and just speaking the truth in a loving way could have turned someone’s thinking around.

We should be respectful of **each other **but we do not have to respect a belief itself. I feel it is not bending over backwards but more of a “hey let’s approach this calmly” because it is a sensitive thing. Satan has blinded many and it is saddening. We should pray that God will open their eyes and hearts.

I also do not agree in “ripping apart” other Christians. We are all children of God no matter if some people at this time believe otherwise (all will be revealed in the end). We should nurturingly and calmly bring people back to God’s church where it isn’t dog-eat-dog or fend for yourself.

This all just my opinion and way of thinking. So, welcome to all and I pray that you being here at CAF is through the Divine ork of God the Almighty and will bring you home to God’s love and Grace. God bless YOU ALL!

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

**Hi Bear,

Apologies on my part. I was wrong to attach the troll label to you. I guess we all have our own experiences that prejudice us. I have had plenty of encounters with atheists who truly were trolls just coming on here to bust some heads and poke fun at the dumb Catholics who believe in all these silly miracles, a bunch of witch doctors with rosaries, that kind of garbage. Your profile says “super atheist” and that just put me off a tad I guess. I thought “atheist” would suffice. Super atheist seemed to be a bit confrontational. But like you said, tone is tough to gauge. You absolutely ARE welcome here and I would never tell you to hit the bricks. Accept my apology please. I like an intelligent discussion. You’ll have to forgive me, I work in public education and don’t get many of them!!! **

sigh I guess you guys just don’t understand the motivation for an atheist to come here. It’s the first thing that gets’ flung at me on a regular basis.
I’m not here to be a troll or to take stabs at y’all in any way…I like the dialogue and the intelligent discussions on faith (or lack thereof) issues.
The sad truth is that folks like me get labeled as intruders and trolls as soon as we ask any questions.
Some days it’s more interesting to chat to folks in the opposing camp than it would be to keep speaking to Atheists. I mean I could go onto the boards and take part in talkin’ smack about the Christians, but I find speaking to y’all and seeing your perspectives, and sharing mine much more stimulating.
You are indeed welcome. If we can’t agree on religion, we can talk Lord of the Rings, Star Wars or Star Trek and I’ll be fine …if you don’t like those three, then I don’t know what to say! LOL…
If I’m unwelcome here, I won’t be offended, or surprised, really, just lemme know, k?

(bold mine)
And yet you keep posting in his thread making fun of him? Hmmm…maybe I miss-understand and it’s not time, but rather tolerance?
I won’t lie. I have no time for Satanism. It’s nonsense. I’m just a straight-shooter. I’d prefer the honesty of atheism (though I find atheism tragic) because this goofy LaVeyan Satanism is nothing but atheism with all the worldly values of the believer channeled into an archetypical person of Satan who doesn’t even really exist. It’s like a symbol for all they believe. By the way, with all the “y’alls” you had going I thought you were from Texas but I see it’s Canada! Shouldn’t we throw in some “hosers” and “eh’s?” …I know one topic you and I can’t discuss…the Olympics!!

Isn’t that the truth!
Sorry, it’s a bit difficult to sense tones of posts online

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Since he/she said they were a teenager, maybe he/she got grounded.

**It reminds me of this Saturday Night Live episode back in the 80’s where William Shatner guest starred as host. He played himself at a Star Trek convention and after his speech a bunch of nerdy Trekkies ask him a load of ridiculous, technical questions as if he really were Captain Kirk and not Bill Shatner. He finally gets so mad that he says, “for God sakes people, get a life! You over there with the vulcan ears! I bet you never kissed a girl before! And you in the red shirt, I bet you live in your mother’s basement! Get a life!” LOL **

 

[Fide_Roma]

Blessed Bartolo Longo, pray for this Child Satanist.

READ ABOUT HIM.

 

[Bear_Claw]

gurneyhalleck1:
Hey Gurney, no worries, I guess there are certain stereotypes attached to my “religious persuasion”, lol! I might re-think it, but it’s not like I am an ex-christian that’s just mad at god, etc, so I guess that’s where I’m coming from. All’s good, no worries
Yeah, LotR, Star Trek, Star Wars, X-files, that’s all very welcome topics of discussion I’m watching re-runs of Star Trek TNG right now. Awesome show.

Yeah, I’m Canadian, I was in a funny head-state when I was using my Texan drawl. Don’t really know why, it’s just how it came out, I guess. Speaking of Canadian, I’m dam proud to be one right now with the Olympics, let me tell you! The Hockey game was Fantastic and over all the Games was a huge success. Good job to all the guys in Vancouver that helped!

Have a great day, I’ll see you around on the forums

 

[rinnie]

Greetings,

I am a new member here and am a LeVeyan Satanist. I believe in tolerance and I’m here for intellectual conversations about religion, nothing more. We’re not as harmful as we sound, not even close. And though our beliefs are different I know we can get along just fine. If you do wish to flame me, insult me, curse me to the depths of oblivion, or anything else, remember I am still a child. Well, essentially, technically a teenager. But not an adult, none the less.

DON’T try to convert me, that is a step too far, even if you have righteous motives they’ll be in vain. Here’s to looking forward to many conversations. Cheers,

Arnoagns

Curious, what are you here for? What are you looking for?

 

[romesweethome]

I am excited that you are here, and that you believe in God, just as satan does. The hope is that your belief grows and then turns into obedience. this will only occur when the pain of your disobedience is great enough for you to be convinced that the way you have chosen is not the way of Truth and life. The difference between you and satan, the one in whom you trust, is that satan cannot revert to God, and you can. Another great thing is that you live in and around the graces that God has placed in this world, which are the only comfort you know. Remember that once you die and do not receive the love of God in your life, you will live without any grace and any presence of God and therefore you will be in hell, the hell of your own choices.

peace, rsh

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah…I was pulling for my boys in red, white and blue, and normally I’m no hockey fan. I was hoping for a re-play of the U.S.-Soviet style game back in 1980 or so. Those guys fought their hearts out on both sides.

I’m proud of my country…set a medal record! We needed wheel barrows to haul all those medals out of Canada!

Watching Star Trek TNG right now eh? (see how Canadian I sound!)…my wife and kids and I just finished all the seasons of that on DVD. Love it! Any particular episodes you favor?

I’m watching the classic Trek again through right now. Tonight watching Spider Man 3 with my kids. Gotta love the black suit!

Hey Gurney, no worries, I guess there are certain stereotypes attached to my “religious persuasion”, lol! I might re-think it, but it’s not like I am an ex-christian that’s just mad at god, etc, so I guess that’s where I’m coming from. All’s good, no worries
Yeah, LotR, Star Trek, Star Wars, X-files, that’s all very welcome topics of discussion I’m watching re-runs of Star Trek TNG right now. Awesome show.

Yeah, I’m Canadian, I was in a funny head-state when I was using my Texan drawl. Don’t really know why, it’s just how it came out, I guess. Speaking of Canadian, I’m dam proud to be one right now with the Olympics, let me tell you! The Hockey game was Fantastic and over all the Games was a huge success. Good job to all the guys in Vancouver that helped!

Have a great day, I’ll see you around on the forums

 

[Bear_Claw]

Watching Star Trek TNG right now eh? (see how Canadian I sound!)…my wife and kids and I just finished all the seasons of that on DVD. Love it! Any particular episodes you favor?

Honestly, the more aliens the better…I just watched the last episode of seasno 3 and the first one of season 4 where Picard gets assimilated by the Borg. That was cool. Not so much the drama episodes that explore specific characters, and I really don’t like the “Q” Episodes

Tonight watching Spider Man 3 with my kids. Gotta love the black suit!

Yeah, that was an epic one with the black suit. I did like the first one though, especially the parts where he discovers his powers, the transformation into a superhero and when he had fun with his new powers

Back on the Satanist thread.
Let me speak frankly.
Having defended the OP, I do think that specifically LaVeyan Satanism is pretty much symbolism and rituals, but there is no real “Satan worshipping” behind it…that might be why the OP is still confused…the morals preached in LaVeyan Satanism is, as I understand, pretty much about putting yourself first and treating other people as friends as long as they offer something to you.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, anyone.

Maybe it’s because I see in Satanism the same lack of proof that I see in religion in general, and that there are no tangible benefits or advantages to following it:
The rewards of christianity is only seemingly fulfilled after death and there are no proof (except the bible and 2000 years of word of mouth) to reassure you that it’s true.
LaVeyan satanism has the same lack of proof, the same ritualistic approach, but no tangible benefits to it either…no extra powers (no matter how they were obtained) or something that would make the practice worthwhile.

It’s just substituting one set of rules that one is prescribed and obliged to follow, for another one, without having evidence that it’s anything more than man-made ideals.

I know I’m gonna get flack for this one, but I wanted to be frank about where I stand on the issue, and to bring the thread back to the OP’s topic.

And, if the OP is still reading, sorry if I was harsh in wording my point of view, feel free to “im” me if you want to discuss it in private.

 

[kenofken]

The only issue I take with Satanism is that it seems to me to be a philosophy trying too hard to look like a religion. Most Satanists don’t claim to worship Satan the entity, and when you talk to them at length, it comes out that their beliefs are really just garden variety humanism with maybe an extra sprinkle of the Ayn Rand “every man an island” ethic. It all seems like an image statement. Avowed humanists tend to be geeky think-tank sorts, and so the humanists who want to have a bit more edge and bad-*** reputation repackage themselves as Satanists.

 

[Vile_Servant]

As others have already said, OP has long since vanished from this thread.

Can someone close this thread please? Hello, Moderators?