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Dont forget that you are saving yourself for God, not for anyone else. It may seem like no body else cares but you know that He does care and it means alot to Him. You may never be rewarded for your faithfulness here on earth but you certainly will be rewarded in heaven!
 
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quixotic:
i am a practising catholic and try to follow everything that the church teachers. i sometimes find that its only me who is doing and and then wonder, whats the point???
It is not only you who practices the faith.
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quixotic:
i’ll get to my point. i have been dating this guy for 6 months now, and all of a sudden, he just withdraw himself from me. after hours of conversation, he finally admited that the reason for him to break up with me was because i was againts pre marital activity. i have to admit, i only kissed him after 4 months and after that i told him that i will not engage in any thing that would lead on to, you know, sex.
This person you were dating has shown by their actions that they are not a quality person, nor one you want to be involved in. This is a good thing, not a bad thing.
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quixotic:
i am now wondering, if everyone else is doing, why am i saving myself?
First, everyone else is not doing this.

Second, no matter if they were-- God calls us to the highest standard and premarital sex is wrong.

I’m sure the early Christians felt the same way you do-- asking themselves why they were holding out in the face of execution when it would be so much simpler just to go along with the crowd.

The path to heaven is a narrow one, but don’t give up on it.
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quixotic:
while i know he is of no worth to keep, i am hurt. whats the point of not doing it when almost every other male have done it???
This is a limited view of things. It is not true that there are a lack of men committed to the faith and who also agree that sex outside of marriage is wrong. They are out there.

Yes, you are right-- he is of no worth. It still hurts because it is a rejection, and everyone wants to be accepted. But, of course you know that God accepts us and loves us, and wants what is good for us. God will give you a good man-- if you do not compromise your principles.
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quixotic:
its usually only girls who takes vows of chasity … i dont know… i am just really hurt and confuse right now… please help…
It may seem like this is true, but it is not. There are many men who are committed to Our Lord.

I met my husband at www.avemariasingles.com which is a Catholic website full of just such men and women. Don’t feel you are alone, for you are not.
 
The question that always bugs us in relationships is, “does he/she really love me or am I being used?” You would think more people would jump on the chastity wagon because it is the perfect test. Tell someone no sex 'till marriage and they get squirelly and eventually bolt, one can reasonably say they were out to use you. In a sense you are doing them a favor because it might force self-honesty and a choice for next time: which is, I’m going to deliberately try to scam as many future partners as possible or I’m going to start being sincere and treat people with respect.

Scott
 
sigh… its a lot easier said than done… anyway, just wanted to share with you guys a book that my friend was telling me about. its call ‘if men were like buses, how do i catch one?’ by michelle mckinney hammond. its a good read and it helped me know (i did already anyway, thanks to all of you here) that i did the rgith thing and that god has greater plans for me.

i also found a blog annabroadway.blogspot.com

god bless + rainbows
annie

yes. i felt rejected and felt like an idiot for actually believing that he would stay by me with no physical intimacy. but whatever, i will be strong with jesus by myside… and with your encouragments
 
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martino:
Dont forget that you are saving yourself for God, not for anyone else. It may seem like no body else cares but you know that He does care and it means alot to Him. You may never be rewarded for your faithfulness here on earth but you certainly will be rewarded in heaven!
Boy, you sure are right! God does care, and from what I just found in 1 Corinthians, He not only cares, but woe to the man who destroys this temple of God. By refusing to allow him you have saved him from the wrath of God Himself…
1 Cor 3:
16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for the temple of God, which you are, is holy. 9
So one might think, is this about murder or about sex? I don’t know; I’m not an expert but in a later chapter we have what I think clearly applies here:
1 Cor 6:
15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take Christ’s members and make them the members of a prostitute? 6 Of course not! 16 (Or) do you not know that anyone who joins himself to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For “the two,” it says, “will become one flesh.” 17 But whoever is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. 18 Avoid immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the immoral person sins against his own body. 7 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple 8 of the holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20 For you have been purchased at a price. Therefore, glorify God in your body.
Alan
 
Hi Annie,
He wasn’t deserving of the gift you would have given him on your wedding night had you married him! I got teased by everyone who found out that I too would not have premarital sex. Even my own sister told me I was being ridiculous. After all she said…you were married before and have given birth to 4 children…Yeah, so what? That marriage was annulled and my husband and I waited until our marriage to have sex. We dated for 6 years!!! But let me tell you how worth the wait it was! We both knew and honored each other by waiting, it was so totally awesome to know that he thought I was worth the wait. I know you think why wait, nobody else does, but you are wrong! I made such an impression on my own son that he is determined to wait as well. He is 19 and a college student. He and I have talked about it alot and he is very open with me about how important it is to wait. Thankfully his girlfriend felt the same way, as did the group of friends he has. I don’t even worry when he goes out with them until he is really late.

Hang in there…and just believe that you are worth the wait!
 
Imagine…

::Scene - Relaxed cafe, in the near future::

You: “I had a great time, definitely a movie worth seeing!”

Date: “I know! surprised me, compared to his last film.”

You: “Yeah, I only wish they hadn’t thrown those ‘love’ scenes in…”

Date: “Egh, nowadays it’s almost a given. Pitiful, seeing as how they only knew each other a month. So much for marriage, right?”

You: “Haha. So… You think waiting for marriage is better?..”

Date: "Course I do! Devil can try and get me a different way, cuz I’m not giving in to that load. But yeah, at least the action scenes made up for it. "

You: " 🙂 "



Cheesy I know, but you get the idea. Stick to your guns and God will do the rest.

(and on a side note, /Catholic college guy, chaste by choice. Sure we’re few, but we’re out there!)
 
Date: “Egh, nowadays it’s almost a given. Pitiful, seeing as how they only knew each other a month. So much for marriage, right?”

You: “Haha. So… You think waiting for marriage is better?..”

Date: "Course I do! Devil can try and get me a different way, cuz I’m not giving in to that load. But yeah, at least the action scenes made up for it. "

You: " 🙂 "

exactly… what makes marriage special then??? might as well not get married right??? there is no holiness to marriage anymore with all these stuff and marriage is just a piece of paper…​

Cheesy I know, but you get the idea. Stick to your guns and God will do the rest.

the thing is when??? how many times must i get burn first?? or is it god’s way of preparing me??? could be a lesson i guess. at least when i have a daugther, i could tell i went through the same stuff and got rejected because i refuse to bow down to preasure or let my principles go… but tis not easy… and rejection hurts…

(and on a side note, /Catholic college guy, chaste by choice. Sure we’re few, but we’re out there!)

real cool… tell me, i am sure it is not easy, but how many guys freinds of yours are like you??? do other people tease you about your choice??? what made you made this choice?? just curious… 🙂

thanks
 
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quixotic:
sigh… its a lot easier said than done… anyway, just wanted to share with you guys a book that my friend was telling me about. its call ‘if men were like buses, how do i catch one?’ by michelle mckinney hammond. its a good read and it helped me know (i did already anyway, thanks to all of you here) that i did the rgith thing and that god has greater plans for me.

i also found a blog annabroadway.blogspot.com

god bless + rainbows
annie

yes. i felt rejected and felt like an idiot for actually believing that he would stay by me with no physical intimacy. but whatever, i will be strong with jesus by myside… and with your encouragments
I recommend Date or Soul Mate by Neil Clark Warren. It is very good. The book posted above on the ABCs is also good.
 
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quixotic:
exactly… what makes marriage special then??? might as well not get married right??? there is no holiness to marriage anymore with all these stuff and marriage is just a piece of paper…

the thing is when??? how many times must i get burn first?? or is it god’s way of preparing me??? could be a lesson i guess. at least when i have a daugther, i could tell i went through the same stuff and got rejected because i refuse to bow down to preasure or let my principles go… but tis not easy… and rejection hurts…
I wish I could give you a “clean” answer about why it’s so difficult, but I can’t. Perhaps it’s God preparing you or maybe it’s simply Satan trying to tempt you away from your faith. All I can offer you is the simple fact that yes, it hurts (from personal experience) but never give up. I don’t know what marriage is like but seeing faith like yours makes me want to get there and experience it without any taint.

With inspiration from one’s fellow Catholics and hope provided by Christ, we can make it. Sometimes these words seem to fall short in answering the pain and suffering that results from rejection, but that’s the risk we take with faith. It’s a long road, but hey, at least we’re not alone! Hearing about the faith and struggles of others can often be that guiding light when temptation rears its ugly head.
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quixotic:
real cool… tell me, i am sure it is not easy, but how many guys freinds of yours are like you??? do other people tease you about your choice??? what made you made this choice?? just curious… 🙂

thanks
I’ll try to be “quick” with my response, as I tend to ramble on.

I chose to become an active, REAL Catholic after I graduated high school. Though the high school I attended was Catholic, its actions and teachings tended otherwise, so obviously the conversion was rather hectic.
I was part of a large group of friends that had met through various sports and other activities, and was rather close throughout high school. Needless to say, our morals were not the best.

After the summer, when my real “conversion” took place, I saw almost every friendship end due to my new morals. So yes, the teasing was there 🙂 and is still around in college concerning the majority of new people I meet.

eg. meeting a guy in my same dorm:

Alpha male: “You like to drink?”
Me: “No. I did a little too much of that in high school.”
Alpha male: “Like to do __ with girls and stuff?”
Me: “No, I don’t go for that, too shallow for me.”

Alpha male: “…”

(As you can tell, our friendship lasted all of 5 seconds!)​

Last questions:
I made this choice because… there’s no other choice to make! I can be a relativist and think that the cultural norms are okay and learn later on that I screwed up big time, or I can suck it up and be a man by accepting the truth of my faith, right here, right now.

I chose the latter. Sure, it was and is VERY hard to live faithfully, but the joy I receive from my choice is worth any rejection I can ever face.

As for how many guys do I know?.. ~10-15 off the top of my head, and that’s just close friends. I found that the WORST way to discover others like myself was through my university (public, ~27000 students… yuck) and so I turned to the most active parish I could find, and here I am, surrounded by tons of college kids going through the same trials and tribulations you and I are.

If that’s something that might help you, just find a parish with Lifeteen. The ministers in LT are all ~college age, and I’m sure you’ll be happy to meet some fellow “rejects”!
Having that social net to catch you when life seems overwhelming is simply invaluable. I honestly do not know whether or not I would still be trying to live as a Catholic if it wasn’t for the new people I met and connected with.
 
Annie, you definitely did the right thing. You’ll want to marry someone who respects you sexually and who respects your faith. It’s very hard sometimes. I myself went through a difficult breakup over religious issues before meeting my current fiancee and I am much, much happier. I would choose my current fiancee over her even if they were both Catholic. Pray and God will provide.
 
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quixotic:
the thing is when??? how many times must i get burn first?? or is it god’s way of preparing me??? could be a lesson i guess. at least when i have a daugther, i could tell i went through the same stuff and got rejected because i refuse to bow down to preasure or let my principles go… but tis not easy… and rejection hurts…
You think getting burned by not sleeping with him is bad??? Imagine if you did and he left you, all you would be left with is guilt and your heart would be crushed, take it from me! 😦 Saving yourself will not only make it so worthwhile, it will make you stronger also. If people want to laugh at you, its because deep down they fear they could never do what your doing. People only make fun of others because of fear. IMHO. 🙂
 
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Myangel:
You think getting burned by not sleeping with him is bad??? Imagine if you did and he left you, all you would be left with is guilt and your heart would be crushed, take it from me! 😦 Saving yourself will not only make it so worthwhile, it will make you stronger also. If people want to laugh at you, its because deep down they fear they could never do what your doing. People only make fun of others because of fear. IMHO. 🙂
AMEN!!!
 
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puzzleannie:
what is going on? what is going on is that this poor guy has bought into the popular culture hook, line and sinker and is convinced the only way to have a relationship with another person is through sexual activity. He, like most of his generation, have never been acquainted with the idea that prevailed universally before the sexual revolution, that the way to get to know someone is through conversation, shared activities of mutual interest, leading to a deeper more intimate sharing of one’s mind and heart. This led to courtship, where the couple seriously prepared for marriage, and eventually to marriage, defined by the marriage act, which belonged only within marriage, a marriage open to life and all God’s gifts.
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WOW! Right on target! 👍
 
As one who failed in the chastity category, I consider it the worst mistake of my entire life. It caused me untold years of absolute misery and self loathing. By the grace of God I am here now and happily married, but I still carry the psychological baggage of some bad decisions made many years ago. Besides the spiritual consequences of mortal sin, there are also physiological consequences to pre-marital sex. Research has shown a strong link between pre-marital sex and depression. Who would want to risk that? Don’t give up on chastity! I wish I would have been as strong as you back then. You are a true role model! Remember, doing the right thing is not always easy and Jesus reminds us to carry the cross every day. God will reward you and provide you someone who believes in chastity and true marriage, he will not abandon you. It may not happen when you expect it, but just trust in him.
 
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Myangel:
You think getting burned by not sleeping with him is bad??? Imagine if you did and he left you, all you would be left with is guilt and your heart would be crushed, take it from me! 😦 Saving yourself will not only make it so worthwhile, it will make you stronger also. If people want to laugh at you, its because deep down they fear they could never do what your doing. People only make fun of others because of fear. IMHO. 🙂
i know that i’ll never compromise my belief and principles, but its painful as well. it would different if i was not honest with him about my view on this,but i was. i told him from the beginning as i dont like leading people on. but whats the use of being honest??? at i am to myself…
 
Your steadfastness is admirable. Be in communion with each of us that has a cross to bear.

What is the use in not being honest? Would it bring you happiness?

Tonight I will pray with all my heart that you might have life in abundance.

Be confident in your righteousness.

Accept God’s love, and please accept our appreciation, as a community, for doing the right thing despite the immediate consequences.

Be pleased with your choice to follow God’s will. Thank you for your example.
 
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quixotic:
i know that i’ll never compromise my belief and principles, but its painful as well. it would different if i was not honest with him about my view on this,but i was. i told him from the beginning as i dont like leading people on. but whats the use of being honest??? at i am to myself…
I know its painful but believe me its sooooooooooo much harder if you dont remain chaste. I too have failed chastity, am single and am scared to death of meeting someone because I know the temptation will be so strong. I would give anything to be in your shoes, its easy for me to say I know, but I know where you are coming from, although I failed in the past, I have made a vowel to wait till marriage now so yeah I feel your pain and some!

You are in my prayers. Keep it up you have no idea how worthwhile it will be! 🙂
 
glad that you understand. sigh… guess this is what we have to do if we make the choice to follow jesus.
i dont have any previous experience as i have always kept my distance, emotionally and physically with guys whom i am interested in, and this time, i was like ok, am gonna take the plunge and ba da bing, ba da boom… i got hurt… guess in the end, i’ll be fine… with you people here being so supportive, i know i will be fine…

thank you so much for your prayers

god bless and rainbows
annie
 
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