Help me, my parish is turning Protestant!

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aurora77:
What you said here is frighteningly like what I’ve heard growing up in a very protestant area. It’s really spread into Catholics, too. It’s sad that people are getting away from the beautiful message of Jesus and going to such a “feel good” way of looking at things. We’ve made God into our buddy.
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aurora77 said:
:bigyikes: AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!

That’s hysterical!!
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Oh yes, your friend and mine, Buddy Christ.
Pitifully I see him fitting in to many “Catholic Communities”
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
Oh yes, your friend and mine, Buddy Christ.
Pitifully I see him fitting in to many “Catholic Communities”
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I’ve lived a VERY sheltered life, I think. Since coming to CAF, I’ve really come to appreciate my parish more than ever!
 
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aurora77:
I’ve lived a VERY sheltered life, I think. Since coming to CAF, I’ve really come to appreciate my parish more than ever!
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Me too! And thank God every day that He got me out of the old one!!!
 
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palmas85:
I’ve always felt that all these type of crucifixes, crosses, whatever they are, are designed primarlly to downplay the sacrificial aspect of the crucifixtion and emphasize the resurrection. However since Christ was not resurrected directly off the cross I think the effort falls a little flat. In all honesty I think many people would rather not even have a crucifix present, you know too gory and painful looking, and not at all in line with current feel good theology. You know how it goes: Christ isn’t the Savior who died for our sins, He’s my bro, my homie, He’s cool and we’re tight. He doesn’t ask anything, He doesn’t judge, He’s just one cool dude…Come on everybody, lets be a cheerleader for Jesus. 👍

Come to think of a lot of places don’t have crucifixes any longer. Maybe it’s only a matter of time until we are all enlightened.
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The “Buddy Jesus.”
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
Oh yes, your friend and mine, Buddy Christ.
Pitifully I see him fitting in to many “Catholic Communities”
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Don’t you mean Catholic Cafeterias? 😉
 
You know, I asked genuinely for a little help here. Unless someone has good advice on how to restore orthodoxy to my Parish, I ask politely that you stay off this thread.

I could, if I so chose, move to another parish, but then, I’d be letting the devil win. I’m gonna fight this one out.
 
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grotto:
You have said “you keep trying to point out…” many of us have been there. So what to do? Bring a small digital camera with you to Holy Mass and get pictures as close as you can get to the abuse. Be discreet as you do not want to add to the scandal of it - confusion among the faithful.
Write a letter to your Bishop and send a picture. Be sure to declare your name and way to be contacted. I see you are in Germany - do you have a postal “certified return receipt” or “registered mail” capability? Then you have more to back up that you pursued resolution of the abuse to the correct authority. If the abuse goes uncorrected and you do not get a response, then another letter and one of the previously obtained pictures should go to the Vatican authorities. Remember to say a prayer that you will serve the Faith with a pure heart.
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Twiztedseraph,

Grotto has some good advice here. Get a copy of the GIRM, if you can so you can compare what should be done vs. what is occuring at your church. If you indeed get to the point of contacting the Vatican, wait a few weeks, and if no correction is made keep writing.

I commend you for staying and helping correct the problems at your church. May Our Lord guide you.
 
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twiztedseraph:
You know, I asked genuinely for a little help here. Unless someone has good advice on how to restore orthodoxy to my Parish, I ask politely that you stay off this thread.

I could, if I so chose, move to another parish, but then, I’d be letting the devil win. I’m gonna fight this one out.
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Well, I’ll say this. You alone will NOT restore orthodoxy to the Parish. Never, forget it. What you will need to do, and I’m actually pretty sure about this, is get the support of most of the Parish, who probably are really happy abput the way things are by the way, bend them to your will somehow, and actually force the Priest into action. The best and fastest way to do this is, drum roll… is to completely withold collections. After a Sunday or two, the Priest will notice and probably make enquiries as to what is going on. From then on it is up to you and your fellow revolutionaries 👍

Seriously, you will need to get the support of the majority of the congregation, whatever you decide to do, otherwise you will be considered a reactionary of some sort. Good Luck

ps, I do think witholding the collection might be effective at least to get his attention.
 
Servus Pio XII:
Go TLM, if you want to stay Latin Rite.

That way, you get a Penetential Rite, Gregorian Chant, polyphony, and no further spilling of Christ’s blood.

Quia tu es, Deus fortitudo nostra; quare nos repulisti, et quare tristis incedo, dum affligit nos inimicus?

ORATE PRO ECCLESIA ROMANA!
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The Tridentine Mass is no silver-bullet. It has its share of abuses as well…
 
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JKirkLVNV:
I’m curious, what about what you saw makes your parish Protestant? Drums? Not my cup of tea, don’t blame you, but if you go to your bishop and say,“This is PROTESTANT!”, he’s going to laugh, because it isn’t. It’s secular, you might use that word, but drums haven’t been forbidden (neither have they been encouraged). Now the pouring of the Most Precious Blood from chalice to chalice is forbidden. For that matter, it’s forbidden to pour the Most Precious Blood from a carafe and the carafe at least has the virtue of be intended to be used for pouring. The Most Precious Blood is not supposed to be fractioned at all. The need for more than one chalice is supposed to be anticipated and the wine consecrated in the respective chalices. I WOULD complain about that, if I were you.
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Excellent point. Those who have written on this thread misusing the term “Protestant” come across as extremely ignorant. Ignorant enough that their concerns may be ignored.
 
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twiztedseraph:
You know, I asked genuinely for a little help here. Unless someone has good advice on how to restore orthodoxy to my Parish, I ask politely that you stay off this thread.

I could, if I so chose, move to another parish, but then, I’d be letting the devil win. I’m gonna fight this one out.
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Keep in mind that you need to be nourished. If you can’t accomplish that at your current parish, beware or how long it could take to change your current parish…
 
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bknebel:
Drums are not necessarily a sign of ‘protestantism,’
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Sure they are! They had loud drums at the Protestant church I used to go to.😛

Though I prefer an organ, a nice sounding one.😃

But twiztedseraph, you’ll be in my prayers!
 
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AltarMan:
Excellent point. Those who have written on this thread misusing the term “Protestant” come across as extremely ignorant. Ignorant enough that their concerns may be ignored.
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Sir, must you always be so arrogant? In such a tone as yours, your contribution may be ignored.

PAX.
 
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twiztedseraph:
Sir, must you always be so arrogant? In such a tone as yours, your contribution may be ignored.

PAX.
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:rotfl:

Anyway, how do the people in your parish feel about what’s going on?
Are they upset as well? If not, you may not get very far.

The other suggestion that I have for you is to try proposing an “Historically” Catholic mass. Maybe you can get one more orthodox mass in for those who want it and let the others go to the “Progressive” one.

That worked in my home parish. Everyone was happy. Even if you had to go to the one that was not to your taste, you knew the other was available. That may work.

I’m praying for you. I stood in your shoes and when I couldn’t change things I had to leave. I’m so happy where I am now but still pray for those I left behind.
 
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Lucania:
I did not look any further than this: May 31, 2006 An Evening With Sr. Joan Chittister.:eek:
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That would be all I have to see…and then “outta there”!
 
Paris Blues:
Sure they are! They had loud drums at the Protestant church I used to go to.😛

Though I prefer an organ, a nice sounding one.😃

But twiztedseraph, you’ll be in my prayers!
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But they aren’t a sign of Protestantism. They are something that some Protestant Churches HAVE (but then so do some Catholic), but it isn’t a hallmark of Protestantism! Otherwise, almost all Native American groups were “Protestant” long before they were even baptized, if such a thing were possible! Drums are a musical instrument used by all sorts of different cultures. To be Protestant is to “protest” against the teaching of the Catholic Church and to deny the authority of the pope. Drums don’t DO that, they don’t protest anything. I’m not defending Protestantism, but it’s just plain incorrect to say that drums are protestant. “Sola Scriptura,” “Sola Fide,” congregationalism, “Once Saved, Always Saved,” reserving baptism for only adults…these are PROTESTANT. Drums are just DRUMS!
 
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