Hilary Clinton;The Clock Is Turning Back For Women In America

[gam197]

Short 3 minute video

…And then Oprah “This is like church”

washingtonexaminer.com/article/2526373

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explained to the Women in the World summit in New York today…

Ratify the UN convention on the elimination of all discrimination against women"

" hundred of thousands of mothers who die each year from childbirth"

 

[oldcelt]

Good for her.
It’s hard to believe that there are some employers that still don’t give women equal pay for the same job a man is doing! *Really?! *

Love how she encourages parents to “teach our daughters there is no limit to how big they can dream!”

I have to agree…I saw nothing offensive there. For those who might oppose her potential presidency…and I personally doubt that she will run…Ms. Clinton is never better than when she is being attacked.

 

[livingwordunity]

Good for her.
It’s hard to believe that there are some employers that still don’t give women equal pay for the same job a man is doing! *Really?! *

Love how she encourages parents to “teach our daughters there is no limit to how big they can dream!”

Did you know that the Obama admin is guilty of not paying women as much as men? How do you feel about that?

 

[gam197]

1992 - “War Against Women” by (cradle catholic who is now an athiest) Marilyn French - same old, same old.

That is just rhetoric.

Hilary may run for president as she can’t stand being out of the spotlight.

 

[edwest2]

More from the Marxist-feminist playbook.

Where are all these women who die during childbirth?

who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs348/en/

Equal pay. President John F. Kennedy signed the Equal Pay Act in 1963. Did everybody miss that?

presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=9267

No references to clocks.

Peace,
Ed

 

[Mark121359]

Hilary for president? Geesh, can’t we get away from this culture of death that we’re mired in… or are we stuck in this rut forever?

 

[_Abyssinia]

I could be wrong but I think she is referencing the hundreds of abortion restriction laws that have been passed in many states. Democrats always talk like this about abortion and it is exposing. They hardly are ever overt in saying they support abortion because other than the hard left, most people are not going to think, ‘This candidate supports abortion, now I know who I am going to vote for’

Democrats talked similarly leading up to the 2012 election. They do not mention the word ‘abortion!’ They use language like ‘reproductive rights,’ ‘right to choose,’ ‘women’s health,’ or maybe ‘the clock is turning back.’ I do not think any of those pro abortion speakers such as Cecile Richards or Nancy Keehan at the DNC mentioned the word ‘abortion.’ More people are pro life now than they were in the 1990s. Is the democrat party going to change their platform on life to coincide with the growing pro life consensus or be left on the sidelines?

I will turn Clinton’s question around: Americans, do you want to turn the clock back 20 years and get the Clintons back in the white house in 2017? Isn’t it time to move forward?

 

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[Raskolnikov]

Good for her.
It’s hard to believe that there are some employers that still don’t give women equal pay for the same job a man is doing! *Really?! *

Love how she encourages parents to “teach our daughters there is no limit to how big they can dream!”

DaddyGirl:

I think men and women should be paid the same wage for the same job…employers should not discriminate!
I would trust that if Hilary had her own administration, she’d make sure women were paid properly.

Hilary for Prez!

Oh for the love of God, enough with this wage gap nonsense. There is no wage gap in the United States or an Western country.

I reiterate. There. Is. No. Wage Gap. It is a feminist myth.

There is an earnings gap (women earning something like 77% of what men earn). An I emphasize the word earn. Women earn on average less money than men because they work on average fewer hours than men, switch fields more than men, major in less practical disciplines than men (again, on average), take more sick day, take more vacation days, tend to prioritize shorter commute, comfort, and job safety more than men and wages less than men in looking for jobs.

Economists have proven, time and time again, that the so-called ‘wage gap’ explained enirely by 1) discrepancies in experienced due to the tendency of women to take time off for maternity or other family reasons, and 2) (most importantly): female choices; such as women choosing to work safer and lower paying jobs. You know, it’s funny, so many women are so concerned about the fact that women make less money (for doing less dangerous or useful work), but they seem perfectly fine with the fact that men are 94% of workplace injuries and deaths. Ever think maybe that’s why male factory workers get paid more than female receptionists. It’s called risk compensation. Women make less money because they choose to make less money; it’s that simple.

The truth? When you control for all other variables, experience, hours worked, college major, etc., women make the same men, or more.

Here’s an interesting link; single, childless, young women make 8% more than single, childless young men.

time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html

Ironically, this is what feminists consider equality, like women living 6 years longer than men, or making up 60% of college graduates constitute victory for ‘equality.’ Seems like a funny definition of equality to me. Suffice it to say, anyone who thinks that in America today women are being oppressed by men needs to have their head examine. And that includes Hilary.

This is a woman, note, who said women were the primary victims of war because after the men get killed, women have to pick up the slack and do the men’s jobs. When men get killed in war, even then, it’s women who are the victims worthy of attention, in this crazy woman’s mind. A woman having to work more is a greater tragedy than a man dying. I’m sorry, but her opinion on gender issues is utterly worthless to me, and to any sensible human being.

 

[Holly3278]

I have a strange feeling that she is speaking of the advancement of pro-life laws across the nation. She is totally wrong about this being a “turning back of the clock”. If anything it is a moving the clock forward type of thing. It is about time that the unborn get the same protection as everyone else or at least more of it. Unfortunately they still don’t have all the protection they deserve and they won’t until abortion is completely and totally banned throughout the world which is something I will strive for until the day I die.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Good for her.
It’s hard to believe that there are some employers that still don’t give women equal pay for the same job a man is doing! *Really?! *

Love how she encourages parents to “teach our daughters there is no limit to how big they can dream!”

Nancy Pelosi pays her female staff nearly $27000 less on average compared to male staff and female senate democrats earn an average of $6500 less than men. Obama admin pays women an average $11000 less a year than there male counterparts even though Obama signed the Lily Ledbetter Act:

Female employees in the Obama White House make considerably less than their male colleagues, records show.

According to the 2011 annual report on White House staff, female employees earned a median annual salary of $60,000, which was about 18 percent less than the median salary for male employees ($71,000).

Calculating the median salary for each gender required some assumptions to be made based on the employee names. When unclear, every effort was taken to determine the appropriate gender.

freebeacon.com/hostile-workplace

Democrats talk the talk about equal pay but do not walk the walk

 

[Brendan]

Are women still having this problem of unequal pay or not?

For the same job, with the same length of time in role, for the same education, for the same amount of experience, for the same number of sick days\vacation days taken, for the same number of hours worked. No.

I had this same conversation back in colledge. A female friend was complaining about the ‘wage gap’. I pointed out that she was a Library Sciences major, looking to be a librian and I was a Computer Engineering major. I ask her, which one of us will be making more money on Day 1 of our jobs. Which one of us will be making more money 5, 10, 20 years down the road.

She had to admit it was me, but had no interest at all in changing over an Engineering major.

And even our of Engineers, the highest paid are Petroleum Engineers, that is because they have to live on oil platforms, near pipelines in the far north, or in ‘interesting’ locations like the Middle East. My wife’s cousin is one of those. He made more as a first year engineer as I did after 10 years.

Even in my role, I am now two pay levels higher than a female Engineer who started about the same time I did. During that time, I took a position that required that I travel (often at a moments’ notice) to customer sites in remote (global) locations. If something was failing, and it was affecting a customer’s business, I was the one who got on the plane and went out and fixed it.

But that gave me a LOT more practical experience in quality control and adding features that the customer’s really wanted. So I was able to take that experience and translate that into promotions and greater responsibility.

Almost exclusively, it is the males who take on that type of travel, or, like the petroleum engineers, choose to move to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska (where my wife’s cousin went his first year) or a North Sea oil platform (where he is now )

Companies, pretty much by definition, have to pay more for an engineer to do this, and for the engineer, it gives them more practical experience. So those engineers get the raises and the promotions.

So the question is really NOT why companies pay more for this type of work, but why women aren’t willing to take on the jobs that pay more.

If anyone here thinks that a company, ANY COMPANY isn’t trying to reduce it’s payroll to not a penny more than it has to spend, they are fooling themselves. So if a company thought it could get away with paying less by hiring women instead of men, there would not be a single job opening for men.

 

[_Abyssinia]

So then…yes, this is still a problem?
Yet Raskalnikov’s post says no, it’s not a problem?

Are women still having this problem of unequal pay or not?

If they are, what Hillary is clearly saying is that it should not be happening anymore because, again, that’s “turning back the clock for women” etc…

315000 women left the labor force in March and there are now 49 million women out of work. Lack of jobs is far worse for women than ‘unequal pay’ and if pay is unequal it appears to be caused by the differing choices women and make in regards to job type, work hours and the different impact having children has on male and female parents:

The Department of Labor’s Time Use survey shows that full-time working women spend an average of 8.01 hours per day on the job, compared to 8.75 hours for full-time working men. One would expect that someone who works 9% more would also earn more. This one fact alone accounts for more than a third of the wage gap.

…

Recent studies have shown that the wage gap shrinks—or even reverses—when relevant factors are taken into account and comparisons are made between men and women in similar circumstances. In a 2010 study of single, childless urban workers between the ages of 22 and 30, the research firm Reach Advisors found that women earned an average of 8% more than their male counterparts. Given that women are outpacing men in educational attainment, and that our economy is increasingly geared toward knowledge-based jobs, it makes sense that women’s earnings are going up compared to men’s.

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704415104576250672504707048.html

As The Washington Post‘s Glenn Kessler notes, government data shows women work fewer hours than men, which explains much of the apparent pay gap: “since women in general work fewer hours than men in a year, the statistics used by the White House may be less reliable for examining the key focus of the legislation — wage discrimination.” I discuss some other unfounded claims made in support of the Paycheck Fairness Act at this link.

As Steve Tobak noted at CBS News,

Men are far more likely to choose careers that are more dangerous, so they naturally pay more. Top 10 most dangerous jobs (from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics): Fishers, loggers, aircraft pilots, farmers and ranchers, roofers, iron and steel workers, refuse and recyclable material collectors, industrial machinery installation and repair, truck drivers, construction laborers. They’re all male-dominated jobs. . .Men are far more likely to take work in uncomfortable, isolated and undesirable locations that pay more. Men work longer hours than women do. The average fulltime working man works six hours per week or 15 percent longer than the average fulltime working woman.

According to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, 92 percent of all workers who die on the job are men, even though only a bare majority of all workers are men. These examples are at odds with the assumption of many supporters of the Paycheck Fairness Act and the Ledbetter Act that pay disparities are simply the result of gender bias or sexism.

openmarket.org/2013/02/13/obama-renews-call-for-paycheck-fairness-act

The main reason that women spend less time at work than men—and that women are unlikely to be the richer sex—is obvious: children. Today, childless 20-something women do earn more than their male peers. But most are likely to cut back their hours after they have kids, giving men the hours, and income, advantage.

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303592404577361883019414296.html

 

[ishii]

Oh for the love of God, enough with this wage gap nonsense. There is no wage gap in the United States or an Western country.

I reiterate. There. Is. No. Wage Gap. It is a feminist myth.

There is an earnings gap (women earning something like 77% of what men earn). An I emphasize the word earn. Women earn on average less money than men because they work on average fewer hours than men, switch fields more than men, major in less practical disciplines than men (again, on average), take more sick day, take more vacation days, tend to prioritize shorter commute, comfort, and job safety more than men and wages less than men in looking for jobs.

Economists have proven, time and time again, that the so-called ‘wage gap’ explained enirely by 1) discrepancies in experienced due to the tendency of women to take time off for maternity or other family reasons, and 2) (most importantly): female choices; such as women choosing to work safer and lower paying jobs. You know, it’s funny, so many women are so concerned about the fact that women make less money (for doing less dangerous or useful work), but they seem perfectly fine with the fact that men are 94% of workplace injuries and deaths. Ever think maybe that’s why male factory workers get paid more than female receptionists. It’s called risk compensation. Women make less money because they choose to make less money; it’s that simple.

The truth? When you control for all other variables, experience, hours worked, college major, etc., women make the same men, or more.

Here’s an interesting link; single, childless, young women make 8% more than single, childless young men.

time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html

Ironically, this is what feminists consider equality, like women living 6 years longer than men, or making up 60% of college graduates constitute victory for ‘equality.’ Seems like a funny definition of equality to me. Suffice it to say, anyone who thinks that in America today women are being oppressed by men needs to have their head examine. And that includes Hilary.

This is a woman, note, who said women were the primary victims of war because after the men get killed, women have to pick up the slack and do the men’s jobs. When men get killed in war, even then, it’s women who are the victims worthy of attention, in this crazy woman’s mind. A woman having to work more is a greater tragedy than a man dying. I’m sorry, but her opinion on gender issues is utterly worthless to me, and to any sensible human being.

Brilliant post - thank you Raskonikov.

 

[ishii]

I would trust that if Hilary had her own administration, she’d make sure women were paid properly.

Hilary for Prez!

Hello DaddyGirl - As you can see, its more a matter of women earning less due to the factors pointed out by Raskolnikov and Brendan in their posts. As for the turning back the clock for women - did you know how many girls (baby girls) are killed by abortions? In China, they abort girl babies because they want a boy. Hillary is part of the “reproductive rights” (i.e. abortion rights) crowd and I wouldn’t entrust her to protect the lives of unborn girls. Would you? People like Hillary don’t deserve your vote or your support.

Ishii

 

[pete_29]

I think men and women should be paid the same wage for the same job…employers should not discriminate!
I would trust that if Hilary had her own administration, she’d make sure women were paid properly.

Hilary for Prez!

How about equal work for equal pay?

 

[RACJ]

Short 3 minute video

…And then Oprah “This is like church”

washingtonexaminer.com/article/2526373

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explained to the Women in the World summit in New York today…

Ratify the UN convention on the elimination of all discrimination against women"

" hundred of thousands of mothers who die each year from childbirth"

This from the woman who considers Al Jezeera the news of record, believes that Israeli settlements are illegitmate, and has called Assad a “reformer”. You want progress, there’s progress for you! No clock turning for Hillary, no siree!! Rob

 

[RACJ]

So then…yes, this is still a problem?
Yet Raskalnikov’s post says no, it’s not a problem?

Are women still having this problem of unequal pay or not?

If they are, what Hillary is clearly saying is that it should not be happening anymore because, again, that’s “turning back the clock for women” etc…

No, it is not a problem, but in the rare instance where it exists, companies can go out of business for proven sex discrimination.Mostly, to get the results feminists desire, to keep their minions in an uproar, apples and oranges are compared. For example, most women doctors are GP’s, while many more males become surgeons or specialists. This is their CHOICE. More women than men leave work to care for children. Thomas Sowell exploded the unequal pay myth over 30 years ago, but it persists, sadly. Rob

 

[_Abyssinia]

Paper Tigress

Column: Why Hillary is less ‘inevitable’ than you think

 

[7_Sorrows]

what has hillary done for women in america? i don’t view her as a role model.