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The reason why women don’t always get “equal pay” is because they often take lower-paying jobs.
In fact, even Barack Obama and George Soros pay their women employees less.
Really!
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In fact, even Barack Obama and George Soros pay their women employees less.
Really!
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SuperLuigi
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You’re placing too much emphasis on a political statement with a politician you seem to like.What Hillary says is not relevant to the facts already provided.
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SuperLuigi
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I just have to comment on this with a compilation of recent analyses:
- Races without an incumbent tend to be close. 2008 was very much a fluke in the matter.
- The left has been running with polls showing Clinton to be nearly unbeatable in any and every scenario.
- Hilary hasn’t lived in Arkansas in nearly a quarter-century. Since then, as Dick Morris notes, Arkansas has gone from 3-1 democrat CDs to 4-0 republican.
- It was supposed to be her and Rudy in 2008 and we all know how that went!
- As Nate Silver, who predicted every state correctly in 2012 notes: “Hilary’s popularity will decline once republicans attack her.” I would add that if it’s Rubio or Rand Paul, an aging Clinton will have to deal with everything from Benghazi to Bosnia to her support of the Iraq War.
Clinton could find herself in an unexpectedly dirty and tight primary.
Democrats up for re-election in 2014 don’t seem to be flooding his office for campaign help…
- Also, I don’t think Clinton’s numbers can get any better, whereas once Rand and Rubio get their names out there, their numbers will improve, as Dick Morris notes.
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I admire your positivity, SuperLuigi. My comments in blue:
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"]Wait until the Democrat media machine goes to work smearing Rubio or Paul as extremists. Also keep in mind the critical mass of takers has been reached: 50+ % of Americans receive govt. assistance of some sort. The Democrat party can count on their votes. We have reached a new era in politics. This is what makes Obama so cocky and overconfident.I just have to comment on this with a compilation of recent analyses:
Anyone who has been through one presidential cycle ought to know:
- Races without an incumbent tend to be close. 2008 was very much a fluke in the matter.
- The left has been running with polls showing Clinton to be nearly unbeatable in any and every scenario.
Dick Morris predicted a Romney victory to the end. The 2016 election won’t be decided based on who wins Arkansas.
- Hilary hasn’t lived in Arkansas in nearly a quarter-century. Since then, as Dick Morris notes, Arkansas has gone from 3-1 democrat CDs to 4-0 republican.
True - Hillary Clinton would be vulnerable. But consider how vulnerable Obama was in 2012 and the press carried the day for him. If you thought you saw the last of the “war on women” campaign, wait until 2016 and a Hillary candidacy.
- It was supposed to be her and Rudy in 2008 and we all know how that went!
- As Nate Silver, who predicted every state correctly in 2012 notes: “Hilary’s popularity will decline once republicans attack her.” I would add that if it’s Rubio or Rand Paul, an aging Clinton will have to deal with everything from Benghazi to Bosnia to her support of the Iraq War.
But before the GOP gets to her, does anyone really think anyone with the possible exception of Joe Biden will not go after Clinton on any of these? And who will Barack Obama support, Or by 2016, will anyone even want his support?
Clinton could find herself in an unexpectedly dirty and tight primary.
Democrats up for re-election in 2014 don’t seem to be flooding his office for campaign help…
- Also, I don’t think Clinton’s numbers can get any better, whereas once Rand and Rubio get their names out there, their numbers will improve, as Dick Morris notes.
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Clinton is popular in the polls because she has been out of the loop of the political mainstream for 5 years. Who knows her position on a range of fiscal and other issues? I do not, do you? Once her positions on issues are made her poll numbers will dipI just have to comment on this with a compilation of recent analyses:
Anyone who has been through one presidential cycle ought to know:
- Races without an incumbent tend to be close. 2008 was very much a fluke in the matter.
- The left has been running with polls showing Clinton to be nearly unbeatable in any and every scenario.
But before the GOP gets to her, does anyone really think anyone with the possible exception of Joe Biden will not go after Clinton on any of these? And who will Barack Obama support, Or by 2016, will anyone even want his support?
- Hilary hasn’t lived in Arkansas in nearly a quarter-century. Since then, as Dick Morris notes, Arkansas has gone from 3-1 democrat CDs to 4-0 republican.
- It was supposed to be her and Rudy in 2008 and we all know how that went!
- As Nate Silver, who predicted every state correctly in 2012 notes: “Hilary’s popularity will decline once republicans attack her.” I would add that if it’s Rubio or Rand Paul, an aging Clinton will have to deal with everything from Benghazi to Bosnia to her support of the Iraq War.
Clinton could find herself in an unexpectedly dirty and tight primary.
Democrats up for re-election in 2014 don’t seem to be flooding his office for campaign help…
- Also, I don’t think Clinton’s numbers can get any better, whereas once Rand and Rubio get their names out there, their numbers will improve, as Dick Morris notes.
There will be a democrat primary, Clinton is not just going to walk into the being a nominee, there will be other democrats fighting for the place too
I think Clinton’s age will have an impact. She will be 69 in 2016 and 70 if she assumed the presidency in 2017. If she was the nominee I do think it would help republicans if they had somebody equally historical like Marco Rubio, he would be the most first Hispanic president and would cancel out or equalize any historical newness of a Clinton presidency
Benghazi, Bosnia and her support for the Iraq war are going to be central areas of attack on Clinton
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I remember starting a job twenty years ago as a college professor and they paid me the same as a less qualified woman. I had a Ph.D and she didn’t, and the doctorate was a requirement but they made an exception for her. Twenty years later, I made 50% more than her, for two reasons. One, she could not get promoted because she would not do research, she had the ability, but not the desire. Second, I get a lot more extra work because I am willing to teach in the summer and she isn’t. And yet some will look at our two salaries and see nothing but discrimination.No, it is not a problem, but in the rare instance where it exists, companies can go out of business for proven sex discrimination.Mostly, to get the results feminists desire, to keep their minions in an uproar, apples and oranges are compared. For example, most women doctors are GP’s, while many more males become surgeons or specialists. This is their CHOICE. More women than men leave work to care for children. Thomas Sowell exploded the unequal pay myth over 30 years ago, but it persists, sadly. Rob
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Twenty years ago when I had my son, I had him in hospital with a doctor present in case of emergency. My daughter has had two babies and both were delivered by midwives - not her choice. She has great medical coverage but when it comes to birth, changes have taken place where the mother are not kept more than a day and some are even having outpatient deliveries.
I blame this on “The culture of death” who do not like babies to begin with and which Hilary Clinton promotes.
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What did Hillary Clinton as secretary of state do to condemn the one child policy in China?
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Zilch!
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RACJ
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Don’t forget her catastrophic response to the Benghazi warnings, before four Americans were needlessly slaughtered, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. And the brazen lies that she told the familiespromising to punish the man who created the video, which no one had seen. She is a total fraud. Read Barbara Olson’s book “Hell to Pay” if you are unafraid to hear the truth. Rob
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SamH
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Why protest against something she agrees with?
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TimeEntrance
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Hillary can state and support things at times that I find righteous and reasonable. Then there are things she states and supports that I don’t.
Being in the U.S. a “black male” there are few ethnicities of women in the U.S. that have as statistically grim a future as I. Therefore, Hillary is not concerned with me.
A statement on that. My mother is white. To this day she thinks there is a limit to what I can achieve. I struggle with math and science, so, she tells me she doesn’t think I should have gone into those subjects. In other words, there is no moral encouragement of, “You can do it!” And never has been from cradle and nor shall there be to grave.
My black father is the same.
And given the statistics of black males at my university, in colleges in general, in life in the United States in general, neither has thought it their obligation to have turned out male children that were lawyers, chemists, or physicians.
However, reading that book Talent is Overrated I learned a few things (important things I believe) I did not know. But about 98 or 99% of what I read in the book already were views or beliefs I held in how to raise children. That was an equally important lesson for me. For it showed to me that I should trust myself in these views and philosophies I have. Especially, since I’m motivated by hitting, uncovering, the genesis at hand in an issue.
I’ve also learned recently in a biological anthropology class that males expend energy too to acquire mates. For males they must gain muscle mass to acquire female mates. Again, scientific confirmation on real earthly view I held.
All of which is beginning to make me think of developing my own philosophy called Fundamental reality. Devoid of right and left politics that live for their own sake independent of the realities of life.
Hillary does have some valid points about some of the achievements and struggles of women elsewhere in the world. My one and only hero on earth today is a female. A Cambodian. A Buddhist. Somaly Mam. And she hits the foundations of reality probably closer than any human on earth I’m aware of today. She also takes to task Buddhism and the Buddhist in Cambodia unlike the Buddhist, liberal women of the West immersed as they are in politics and not reality.
I’ve read Somaly’s book and I’m outraged (and complicit in I’m sure) at the suffering of so many thousands or millions of girls over there. Actually, in the sufferings of all the people over there suffering, irrespective of their sex or age.
But there is also much suffering elsewhere on earth–to apocalyptic levels that shatters my illusions of the world. Women and black males here in the U.S. are not physically bound as they think. The chains are mainly mental–albeit sometimes that’s a greater obstacle than a material obstacle. And emotional damage knows no nationality or socio-economic rank.
But I’m now becoming calmly persuaded that I do not need, and in fact would be immensely better off, as a single father than married with children. In think it’s inevitable a woman would throw shackles around the minds of my sons. And I’m perhaps uniquely gifted in that I have the sensitivities and strengths to be both mother and father simultaneously. To both daughters and sons. Certainly, I could mother some of those Cambodian girls better than their own biological mothers have (e.g., selling them at age 6 to a brothel to be molested by men, kicking them as they cling to your leg begging you not to leave).
I think Hillary is much about politics often (not always) and misses a lot of reality.
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RACJ
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Much of what you say makes great sense. But, there are still many women out there who reject the poison demagoguery of the likes of radicals such as HIllary Clinton. Don’t give up hope of finding one!
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“And turning back the CLOCK would be a terrible thing to DO”!
But LET’S not turn back the CLOCK!
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“And turning back the CLOCK would be a terrible thing to DO”!
- NO legalized abortion (in FACT it was once criminal – if you were born before 1973 your life in the womb was protected from those who might murder you for cash or convenience)
- Pornography was a crime also
- Divorce was much more rare
- Most children were born into two parent homes. More stable financially, emotionally
- Entertainment was more child friendly and young children were not sexualized in Kindergarten.
- The percentage of females in prison was much less because women committed less crimes. (And in fact, if one turns back the clock, there were less males by percentage in prison because there was less crime by percentage).
- Less young people were coached into adulthood by street gangs.
- More people ate family meals together each day … rather than alone.
- The most popular methods of birth control were keeping sex in marriage, being self-controlled, and an occasional period of abstinence - versus the constant “medication” of birth control pills for women as if something is wrong with them.
- Once doctors would only provide the healing arts and help people. No respectable doctor would be such a thing as an “abortionist”** (that was for street criminals - who were prosecuted).
But LET’S not turn back the CLOCK!
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Those were terrible times indeed.
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7_Sorrows
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i wish the clock could be turned back for women and many respects. i grew up and was a teenager in the 60’s and a conservative.
i wasn’t catholic then but as i was forming my dreams for my adult life i know that being a good wife and having a good husband and raising a family were important for me.
then the feminists came along and made us feel somehow defective in that line of thinking.
i heard this morning that hillary was offered 14 million as an advance to write a book about her years as secretary of state. i don’t think i will be buying the book as i don’t feel she accomplished a lot.
i wasn’t catholic then but as i was forming my dreams for my adult life i know that being a good wife and having a good husband and raising a family were important for me.
then the feminists came along and made us feel somehow defective in that line of thinking.
i heard this morning that hillary was offered 14 million as an advance to write a book about her years as secretary of state. i don’t think i will be buying the book as i don’t feel she accomplished a lot.
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TimeEntrance
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I appreciate your charity, but I don’t think it has much to do with giving up hope.Much of what you say makes great sense. But, there are still many women out there who reject the poison demagoguery of the likes of radicals such as HIllary Clinton. Don’t give up hope of finding one!
I think it it has more to do with understanding what is going on around you, or trying to, and simply making choices best for oneself. I don’t need a woman anymore than a Jesuit, Shoalin monk, or Jesus Christ Himself. I’m complete in myself and better off. Most people tend to develop hatred over competing life views anyways. In other words, acrimony is inevitable.
But understand, I’m capable of overcoming, especially looking at lessons drawn from others (like Somaly Mam and countless boys and girls traumatized and neglected throughout Cambodia). Consider feminism, homosexual marriage and homosexual normalization, and anti-Christianity. The question I need to ask myself is how much if at all I need to let these things effect me?
If they are outside of me than what is the problem?
I’ve had major things within my intimate social spheres effect me. I’ve overcome many of them to a great extent. Including family culture, neighborhood etc.
Or take the kid raised by two lesbians or two gay men. That kid becomes 38 years of age. He’;s over it right? But there are those reared by two heterosexual parents, that are grown adults married to a spouse of the opposite sex, yet they can not emotionally or psychologically overcome cultural changes, outside their own bodies and own intimate social interactions.
I’ll admit some of the judicial and political things coming out in favor of women all the time makes me think committing to a contract (damning myself) of marriage is a sort of suicide. The recent court case in the U.S. where the court took judicial activism to favor the woman who signed a prenuptial agreement is a big example. And that creates a judicial precedent. Basically, grown women are not even responsible for the prenuptial contracts they sign.
Within the benefit/risk ratio there is too much risk and not enough benefit in marriage. For myself at least. And like American culture produces bank robbers, child molesters, corporate greed, it produces scheming women. I’ve met very few women in my life that have many redeeming qualities. I’ve been screwed over by more (though arguably I allowed myself to get screwed over if not set myself up for that) than I can probably count.
Logically, my position is one of preferring to commit a false-positive error rather than a false-negative error. Wearing a latex condom out of fear of STD’s, not hitchhiking, not picking up hitchhikers, keeping a stockpile of nuclear weapons, are false-positive errors if they are errors.
Not wearing a latex condom, and a woman picking up any male hitchhiker on a lone road are both false-negative errors if they are errors.
I’d prefer to take a false-positive error towards marriage as it offers little benefit and likely much hell and damnation on earth. I can adopt young Cambodian girls. One might call it turning the clock back on men.
Matt Ridley no religious sympathizer reminds in his book The Red Queen that throughout early human civilization a relatively small elite number of men held harems, a monopoly on women, and most men of the lowest ranks lived celibate lives.
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The sexual access seems to be far more obtainable by gay men, as men are men, and like to have sex irrespective of their orientation, and women are the greatest of the discriminators between the two sexes.
During the early years of the AIDS scourge:
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So, a lot of thing are a matter of perspective. Early civilized man low in rank had it much worse than myself in some ways. But it’s a “Red Queen” race and today men of low rank are basically were men of low rank were centuries ago. Nonetheless, I still live in the U.S. and have the chance to become financially well off, adopt children, live comfortably, and keep to myself while enjoying life absent of sexual drama, divorce papers, and all the other drama. Life is hell being this young boy laying a year in this hospital bed in Africa. No American woman knows such hell. And Black-American males are rich in comparison to these blacks.
National hospital in a poor African nation: youtube.com/watch?v=b5bLtHKPO2Y
(I started off meaning to type 2 or 3 sentences and went on a ramble much longer. But I mean to bring up the point/question in another thread as well about why grown, hetero adult, married, can’t “get over” gay marriage or all the changes outside their living rooms and bedrooms?)
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Hilary Clinton is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. She has no concern for women, just a woman, herself. Otherwise she would not be proabortion. Abortion takes the lives of little girl babies as well as little boys. She is also pro same sex marriage. I don’t believe a good Catholic could ever support her election to any office. She once worked for Barrty Goldwater’s presidential campaign according to her book but changed her party affiliation. She is a very dangerous woman with a very liberal agenda.
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TimeEntrance
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I believe she cares about women and so do most people. And I’m happy she has publicly supported and helped spotlight some of the injustices done to women and girls throughout the world.
Abortion is one issue in the world and most young women in the United States support legalized abortion for women. They know it benefits them materially on earth insofar as they’re not forced to take responsibility for the results of their sexual lives if they don’t want to.
But abortion is not the only issue or concern in this world.
Somaly Mam for instance, trains her young girls at her shelter to gain a voice, and in part learn to do that by speaking publicly to men about wearing condoms. A number of her young girls (not even teenagers yet) have acquired HIV from Cambodian men that have paid to have sex with them in brothels. Some of them already have developed AIDS. Some of them have already passed away from AIDS. In Cambodia many men believe that having sex with a young, virgin, girl will not only make you strong but cure you of AIDS. So, virgin 8 year olds are sold for sex to diseased men with the money to pay.
One young girl that passed away from AIDS was a young teenager when she died. She was brought to the brothel around age 6 or 8. Somewhere around there in age. For years she was sold to men. When she finally contracted HIV and got to sick and thin to work, the pimps threw here out in the street. Somaly Mam found here out laying in the streets emaciated with pimps having thrown stones at her.
Until Somaly Mam she never had anyone in the world to love her.
From decades of war, starvation, and then genocide the nation and people of Cambodia have become hard of heart. They instill in all young girls to remain quite–to carry their crosses and traumas in absolute silence. They would not dare to complain as we do on this forum. One keeps their tragedies and heartaches to themselves.
It is good Somaly Mam has these girls that come to her shelter tell their stories–to break the silence–to complain with privilege like well fed men.
One young girl that was 8 or 9 years old was abducted and gang raped by 5 or so men in their 50s, while her parents were out of town. Too small in that “region” they cut her with a knife so she could fit them. When the girl was brought to Somaly they rushed her to the hospital to be sewed up. Somaly’s organization brought charges against the men. Long story short, the men argued in court that the little girl was dressed seductively and that they paid her for sex. The judge decided the girl was young and could rebuild her life and that it would be an injustice to send men of such venerable ages to prison. Somaly’s organization and the girl lost the case. The girl’s mother refused to take her own daughter back. Somaly’s organization then became the guardian of the girl.
There are more issues in this world than just abortion. And many of the men of this world make it easy for Hilary to attain the power and influence she has.
Perhaps men should be less hard of heart.
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