Hillary Clinton Thread

[Sy_Noe]

How do some people here focus on abortion so much? Look, I’m against abortion, but it seems like that’s almost all that is spoken about on this board.

Such a focus here does nothing for me.

“We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. This is not possible,” he said. “The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time.”

Pope Francis

foxnews.com/world/2013/09/19/pope-francis-says-its-not-necessary-for-church-to-speak-about-gay-marriage.html

But at the same time with abortion as the primary focus here, I understand and applaud those responding with other views. Because clearly there is not only 1 view on the issue throughout the nation or the faith spectrum.

 

[Tomdstone]

The constant rant about abortion is tiresome. Haven’t you noticed that almost no one is discussing the issues here? .

Hillary doesn’t tell the truth about a lot of things.
On Wednesday, September 30th, 2015, she said: The Benghazi probe is “the longest-running congressional investigation ever.”
But the Benghazi investigation lasted 17 months, whereas the House Select Committee on Assassinations, 1976-1979 lasted 30 months
On August 23, 2015, she said: “Not one of the 17 GOP candidates has discussed how they’d address the rising cost of college,” but Marco Rubio has been talking about this issue since at least February 2014.
Hillary said:“Hedge fund managers themselves make more and pay less in taxes than nurses and truck drivers,” ( May 18, 2015). Hedge fund managers pay an average of about $50 million in taxes, whereas nurses and truck drivers pay an average of about $16 thousand at most.
Hillary said recently, “We now have driven costs down to the lowest they’ve been in 50 years.” But health care costs have been going up, not down.
Hillary says that all of her grandparents were immigrants: But three of Hillary’s grandparents were born in the United States.
Hillary said in July 17, 2014: “If I just were to compare Reagan’s eight years with Bill’s eight years, it’s like night and day in terms of the effects. The number of jobs that were created, the number of people lifted out of poverty, a hundred times more when Bill was president.”
The figures may have been better under Bill, but they were not 100 times better.
Hillary said that Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on 9-11. Hillary claimed that Chelsea “she heard the plane hit. She heard it. She did.”
But Chelsea was sleeping in a friend’s apartment four miles from ground zero when the first plane hit.
Hillary said that she landed under sniper fire in Bosnia. A video of her landing shows otherwise.
And a lot more.

 

[Sy_Noe]

I don’t “squirm” over anything. If I did, I would have been gone long ago. The constant rant about abortion is tiresome. Haven’t you noticed that almost no one is discussing the issues here?

I am against abortion, but I have to say, you are causing me to re-evaluate my position.

I don’t mean any disrespect, but I really don’t care if I convince you or not. We don’t answer to one another; we answer to God. I’m ready to answer to him now.

No, I’m not beginning to “squirm.” And my conscience is clear. I would never have an abortion. I am going to watch the news about the elections on CNN since I’ve no interest in discussing abortion over and over and over and over ad nauseum here. There is nothing more to say.

Amen. And notice? How could one with sight, not?

 

[_Abyssinia]

I think you’re exactly right. Here is what Hillary was asked and responded:

Q: Do you believe personally that life begins at conception?

A: I believe that the potential for life begins at conception. I am a Methodist, as you know. My church has struggled with this issue. In fact, you can look at the Methodist Book of Discipline and see the contradiction and the challenge of trying to sort that very profound question out.

But for me, it is also not only about a potential life; it is about the other lives involved. And, therefore, I have concluded, after great concern and searching my own mind and heart over many years, that our task should be in this pluralistic, diverse life of ours in this nation that individuals must be entrusted to make this profound decision, because the alternative would be such an intrusion of government authority that it would be very difficult to sustain in our kind of open society. And as some of you’ve heard me discuss before, I think abortion should remain legal, but it needs to be safe and rare.

I have met thousands and thousands of pro-choice men and women. I have never met anyone who is pro-abortion. Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion. Being pro-choice is trusting the individual to make the right decision for herself and her family, and not entrusting that decision to anyone wearing the authority of government in any regard.

ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Abortion.htm

When I searched on Google ‘meaning of pro abortion’ it came up with this definition: in favour of the availability of medically induced abortion

People may mean ‘pro-abortion’ in different ways but the term can be seen as the above definition.

If you base it on the definition I posted above, isn’t it fair to call somebody pro-abortion who favours medical abortion being available?

 

[_Abyssinia]

I’d welcome a break from the abortion issue here! LOL It seems like people are forgetting there are other issues.

There is unlikely to be a break on this thread on this issue, for a long time at least. When the discussion looks as if it’s coming to an end, it’s probably soon to start up again. It will likely continue until this thread is closed and then it will probably continue on the next thread like this about Hillary Clinton.

 

[mary_bobo]

You keep talking about the past. Who will nominate pro-abort judges for FUTURE vacancies on the SCOTUS? That’s right! DEMOCRATS!!!

And justices always vote the way the appointing president thought they would, ya’ right. Very poor excuse.

 

[stevegravy]

Want to talk other Hillary issues besides abortion?

http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/"

In small town America, politics has never been a great way to get rich, but it has been a great way to avoid poverty."

It works just fine and quietly as long as the press leaves you alone. From The Clinton Crime Family. thezman.com/wordpress/?p=5661

In Washington,the two big scandals were sex and money. Bill was raping interns again and Hillary was selling national secrets for campaign cash. People forget about the Chinese money, the satellite deal and missile technology scandal. They even had that sap Al Gore out shaking down Buddhist monks for cash. On their way out the door they tried stealing the White House furniture.

This e-mail scandal looks a lot like an influence peddling scandal.

I agree entirely with the post, but it is “old news” now and voters will generally prefer their crook over some sleaze on the other team. The Clinton charity makes Wounded Warriors look like pikers, amateurs.

Role models are rare in the political game and most good folks avoid it as a necessary evil.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

And justices always vote the way the appointing president thought they would, ya’ right. Very poor excuse.

Historically, justices tend to get much more liberal as they get older. Why, I have no idea, but the votes of the Supreme Court justices have shown this to be true.

And no, they don’t always vote the way their appointing president would vote. I don’t think the Supreme Court can be counted on for anything. Once those justices get a seat on the Court, it seems all bets are off, so to speak.

 

[Peter_J]

Such a focus here does nothing for me.

OIC. (Actually, I think I would have guessed that about you anyhow.) But if that were you’re focus, would you really want the discussion to be as Trump-slanted as it is on this forum?

 

[Lily_Bernans]

:clapping: Sadly though it does certainly appear to me too that people here forget there are other issues. :sad_yes: If you’ve noticed, I tired of it all being about 1 issue so I haven’t been as involved. It gets old to me after awhile and I need a break from 1 issue politics. But I certainly have kept up to this point and tip my :tiphat: to you for your perseverance and patience in explaining the same things over and over and over again. For that I must give you a :bowdown2:

I’m getting tired of the “one issue” discussion, too, Sy. I don’t have to work this week, which is too bad for me! LOL

Everyone knows where everyone stands on the abortion issue, so I see no reason to keep going over it again and again. I’m not trying to convert anyone, and no one’s going to convert me.

And I have noticed your absence. You’ve been missed! But I understand how tiresome it is to go over the same thing again and again and again, especially when things are not likely to change.

 

[stevegravy]

Lets talk Clinton Crime family:

fireandreamitchell.com/2016/03/21/was-bill-clinton-stoned-yesterday-in-arizona/

Something isn’t right with Bill Clinton. Did he pick up some sort of disease from one of his trips to Jeffrey Epstein’s Pedo Island? He looked like he was about to pass out. You ALMOST want to feel sorry for the old fogey,

 

[Lily_Bernans]

Something isn’t right with Bill Clinton. Did he pick up some sort of disease from one of his trips to Jeffrey Epstein’s Pedo Island? He looked like he was about to pass out. You ALMOST want to feel sorry for the old fogey,

If you’re lucky, some day you’ll be that old. If you’re luckier, you’ll be even older. Me, too. Do you want someone calling you and “old fogey?” I don’t, and I think Bill looks great, albeit tired as anyone would be. He’s slimmed down a lot, and he usually looks more energetic.

I’m only thirty-three, but I don’t know that I could keep up the pace of an election campaign. I think we’d have to walk a mile in their shoes before we can judge.

 

[Jeanne_S]

:clapping: Sadly though it does certainly appear to me too that people here forget there are other issues. :sad_yes: If you’ve noticed, I tired of it all being about 1 issue so I haven’t been as involved. It gets old to me after awhile and I need a break from 1 issue politics. But I certainly have kept up to this point and tip my :tiphat: to you for your perseverance and patience in explaining the same things over and over and over again. For that I must give you a :bowdown2:

You do realize that you are on a CATHOLIC forum,don’t you? What really exhausts me,is that in spite of all the evidence that is available today re the humanity of life in the womb,we still have those who ardently and stubbornly cling to a woman’s right to choose.The fact that those who profess to be Catholic can continue to overlook the slaughter of innocents daily in favor of their political ideology is beyond disappointing and very sad indeed. to those of you of different Christian persuasions,the same goes for all of you.

 

[rmartensjr]

You do realize that you are on a CATHOLIC forum,don’t you? What really exhausts me,is that in spite of all the evidence that is available today re the humanity of life in the womb,we still have those who ardently and stubbornly cling to a woman’s right to choose.The fact that those who profess to be Catholic can continue to overlook the slaughter of innocents daily in favor of their political ideology is beyond disappointing and very sad indeed. to those of you of different Christian persuasions,the same goes for all of you.

 

[meltzerboy]

You do realize that you are on a CATHOLIC forum,don’t you? What really exhausts me,is that in spite of all the evidence that is available today re the humanity of life in the womb,we still have those who ardently and stubbornly cling to a woman’s right to choose.The fact that those who profess to be Catholic can continue to overlook the slaughter of innocents daily in favor of their political ideology is beyond disappointing and very sad indeed. to those of you of different Christian persuasions,the same goes for all of you.

In a strange way, I think some of those who hold the position that a woman has a right to choose are expressing more concern for religious diversity regarding abortion than those who are pro-life. The latter takes one of its main arguments from the biological development of the fetus, while some of the pro-choice advocates are more sensitive to religious differences with respect to, for example, at what point the ensoulment process takes place. Of course, Catholicism believes it is at conception; but this is not the view of Judaism or certain other religions. The pro-life argument relies a lot on legal issues of what constitutes murder, which is fine but they are essentially secular although tinged with a religious and ethical foundation, whereas the pro-choice argument relies more on personal, private, and diverse religious viewpoints.

 

[Jeanne_S]

In a strange way, I think some of those who hold the position that a woman has a right to choose are expressing more concern for religious diversity regarding abortion than those who are pro-life. The latter takes one of its main arguments from the biological development of the fetus, while some of the pro-choice advocates are more sensitive to religious differences with respect to, for example, at what point the ensoulment process takes place. Of course, Catholicism believes it is at conception; but this is not the view of Judaism or certain other religions. The pro-life argument relies a lot on legal issues of what constitutes murder, which is fine but they are essentially secular although tinged with a religious and ethical foundation, whereas the pro-choice argument relies more on personal, private, and diverse religious viewpoints.

Your points are well taken Metzerboy and I realize and understand the argument that we are not a theocracy and as such,will have differing views re sanctity of life and abortion.My comments were directed towards those who not only profess to be Catholic,yet pooh pooh the whole prolife stance in favor of political ideology.For me,my faith,as I sense is the same for you,drives my political views.Abortion is the number one concern because,if the most basic right to live in the first place is denied,then all other issues are moot.Also,I find it disrespectful of others’ of differing faiths or none at all ,who come on this forum and continually chide and condescend to ,what the majority on here take seriously.

 

[grotto]

Good day to all! I feel like Ebeneezer Scrooge after he woke up and had a second chance to be kind and good!

After being awake rather late for myself and still commenting (getting fired up and fighting the bad guys - or running my mouth) my computer screen banned me from Catholic Answers and said reinstatement would be never! :bigyikes: I am sadly aware that according to St. Thomas Aquinas and the study of personality, I am choleric and melancholy. I have never been comfortable with that naturally and don’t agree.

So, it feels like Christmas morning - I fire up the laptop and lo and behold - there is my CA Forums ready and waiting!

Before I get going again I must say sorry if I hurt anyone with my adjectives and verbs.
I won’t say sorry for fighting against those who allow or approve abortion. St. Padre Pio said his rosary was his weapon and if I am silenced I will have that still. Otherwise, I hope to continue to have the last word defending God’s plan for life and all that goes with it.

Down with Hillary Clinton and those that wish to kill babes having the Democrat Party as their corporation.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Good day to all! I feel like Ebeneezer Scrooge after he woke up and had a second chance to be kind and good!

After being awake rather late for myself and still commenting (getting fired up and fighting the bad guys - or running my mouth) my computer screen banned me from Catholic Answers and said reinstatement would be never! :bigyikes: I am sadly aware that according to St. Thomas Aquinas and the study of personality, I am choleric and melancholy. I have never been comfortable with that naturally and don’t agree.

So, it feels like Christmas morning - I fire up the laptop and lo and behold - there is my CA Forums ready and waiting!

Before I get going again I must say sorry if I hurt anyone with my adjectives and verbs.
I won’t say sorry for fighting against those who allow or approve abortion. St. Padre Pio said his rosary was his weapon and if I am silenced I will have that still. Otherwise, I hope to continue to have the last word defending God’s plan for life and all that goes with it.

Down with Hillary Clinton and those that wish to kill babes having the Democrat Party as their corporation.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Want to talk other Hillary issues besides abortion?

http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/"

In small town America, politics has never been a great way to get rich, but it has been a great way to avoid poverty."

It works just fine and quietly as long as the press leaves you alone. From The Clinton Crime Family. thezman.com/wordpress/?p=5661

In Washington,the two big scandals were sex and money. Bill was raping interns again and Hillary was selling national secrets for campaign cash. People forget about the Chinese money, the satellite deal and missile technology scandal. They even had that sap Al Gore out shaking down Buddhist monks for cash. On their way out the door they tried stealing the White House furniture.

This e-mail scandal looks a lot like an influence peddling scandal.

I agree entirely with the post, but it is “old news” now and voters will generally prefer their crook over some sleaze on the other team. The Clinton charity makes Wounded Warriors look like pikers, amateurs.

Role models are rare in the political game and most good folks avoid it as a necessary evil.

she apparently feels nothing is going to happen to her and she will have a clear path to the White House.

 

[zz912]

she apparently feels nothing is going to happen to her and she will have a clear path to the White House.

Hillary Clinton would already be in prison if she didn’t have her last name. Any other regular person attempting to do what she did with the email server and the bribery would be facing decades in federal prison. It’s still 50/50 on whether she will even be charged because of the corruption in the Obama DOJ.