Hillary Clinton Thread

[Little_Sheep]

There’s a video in the attached link detailing the Clinton scandals. If anyone wants to refute any of them, now’s the time to do so before we’re stuck with a potential President Clinton:

hillaryforprison.net

As someone who lived through the Clinton “scandals” in real time, I’ll refrain from engaging with them again. I’m sure they’ll all be trotted out ad nauseum soon enough and I’m happy for individual voters to draw their own conclusions.

Suffice it to say, all the sustained firepower in the world hasn’t taken the Clintons down. Bill is remembered fondly and positively despite his peccadilloes.

Are the Clintons perfect? Hardly. Is Hillary Clinton the best choice to lead our nation for the next 4+ years? Undoubtedly.

If the Republicans had an actual decent candidate with good ideas to lean on in 2016, they surely would do that. But they don’t, so the fall-back position is to throw stones at the Democrat candidate.

 

[Stylteralmaldo]

Is Hillary Clinton the best choice to lead our nation for the next 4+ years? Undoubtedly.

Well, if Hilary Clinton is “undoubtly” the best choice to lead our nation despite what is widely known about her character and lack of accomplishments, then you’re essentially saying that there is no one worth voting for so we may as well ‘vote for the devil we know, rather than the devils with less extensive baggage’ with the thinking being that the other candidates ‘baggage’ is out there, we just aren’t aware of it yet.

I can’t think of any other reason why someone, after examining the extensive evidence, would consider her the “best choice”.

 

[stinkcat_14]

As someone who lived through the Clinton “scandals” in real time, I’ll refrain from engaging with them again. I’m sure they’ll all be trotted out ad nauseum soon enough and I’m happy for individual voters to draw their own conclusions.

Suffice it to say, all the sustained firepower in the world hasn’t taken the Clintons down. Bill is remembered fondly and positively despite his peccadilloes.

Are the Clintons perfect? Hardly. Is Hillary Clinton the best choice to lead our nation for the next 4+ years? Undoubtedly.

If the Republicans had an actual decent candidate with good ideas to lean on in 2016, they surely would do that. But they don’t, so the fall-back position is to throw stones at the Democrat candidate.

We have to remember that Bill was not remembered fondly when he left office. In 2000 his own state would not vote for his Vice President, that is how little respect he had. Character counts, and in the democratic primary Bernie has a lot more character than Hillary.

 

[gracepoole]

We have to remember that Bill was not remembered fondly when he left office. In 2000 his own state would not vote for his Vice President, that is how little respect he had. Character counts, and in the democratic primary Bernie has a lot more character than Hillary.

Apparently it doesn’t count for much, then, since he won’t be securing the nomination.

 

[Little_Sheep]

Well, if Hilary Clinton is “undoubtly” the best choice to lead our nation despite what is widely known about her character and lack of accomplishments, then you’re essentially saying that there is no one worth voting for so we may as well ‘vote for the devil we know, rather than the devils with less extensive baggage’ with the thinking being that the other candidates ‘baggage’ is out there, we just aren’t aware of it yet.

I can’t think of any other reason why someone, after examining the extensive evidence, would consider her the “best choice”.

I’m certainly not out to change anyone’s mind, my friend. Vote your conscience!

Clearly, you missed what I am essentially saying, but thanks for the effort. What I am saying is that Hillary’s character and accomplishments are outstanding - on both fronts she outshines every single person who has attempted to grasp the Republican nomination this year. For this reason, I believe that the majority of voters in this country will elect her as their President in November. I am excited to be a part of that.

 

[grotto]

Apparently it doesn’t count for much, then, since he won’t be securing the nomination.

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Neither Democrat counts for much but the method of counting leaves a LOT to be desired, like counting every voter’s vote for a TOTAL to determine the winner. Is that too complicated for Democrats? Seems like it is somewhat the same for Republicans!

 

[sallybutler]

Thank you.

I have my fingers crossed that one or more FBI agents will be so fed up with the cover up that they will leak details of Shrillary’s stupidity and even traitorous activities. She and her husbands are crooks now and forever. She belongs in jail - NOT the Oval Office.

Why do we have to call people names?

 

[Little_Sheep]

We have to remember that Bill was not remembered fondly when he left office. In 2000 his own state would not vote for his Vice President, that is how little respect he had. Character counts, and in the democratic primary Bernie has a lot more character than Hillary.

I’m a huge Bernie fan, to be sure, but I do not believe he has more “character” than Hillary! He is a character, of course, but so is HRC! Frankly, the difference between Bernie and Hillary is negligible.

Ultimately, I don’t think the majority of this country is “ready” for Bernie and I don’t think he has solid plans in place to accomplish the goals he wishes to achieve. That said, Senator Sanders certainly gives us a hint at the future of the Democratic Party and we would all do well to pay attention to that.

 

[Little_Sheep]

Why do we have to call people names?

Isn’t that the Christian thing to do? Yeesh, politics sure brings out the worst in folks.

 

[stinkcat_14]

Apparently it doesn’t count for much, then, since he won’t be securing the nomination.

Unfortunately, no. I am 180 degrees opposed to everything Bernie stands for, but I would rather live with the more honest candidate.

 

[grotto]

Politics can sure bring out the worst in a candidate too!

We need to start a “name the date” poll for Hillary. E-mail Friday is only 24+ hours away!

 

[jediliz]

Are the Clintons perfect? Hardly. Is Hillary Clinton the best choice to lead our nation for the next 4+ years? Undoubtedly

Still waiting for a list of her accomplishments which makes her competent enough to lead this country AND handle a crisis, should one happen. So far, I have seen ZILCH.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I’m certainly not out to change anyone’s mind, my friend. Vote your conscience!

Clearly, you missed what I am essentially saying, but thanks for the effort. What I am saying is that Hillary’s character and accomplishments are outstanding - on both fronts she outshines every single person who has attempted to grasp the Republican nomination this year. For this reason, I believe that the majority of voters in this country will elect her as their President in November. I am excited to be a part of that.

I don’t think many will really look into either her character or her accomplishments. If people did, she couldn’t possibly win. It’s certainly possible, even likely, that she will get elected. But it won’t be because of in-depth knowledge of her. It will be because of promises she will make to give Peter’s money to Paul (which she won’t do despite promising it, unless Paul is on Wall Street) and because she champions abortion, an evil with which far too many are personally familiar or think they might be in the future.

I find it amusing that some of the same liberals who couldn’t condemn Walmart enough for their anti-union strategy, their low pay, and driving others out of business, went silent when they learned Hillary Clinton was on the board of directors when those strategies were formulated.

And as much as George Bush is hated, he at least didn’t laugh on film when someone was tortured to death like she did when Khaddaffi was killed. Democrats ought to be scared to death of her, but they’re not, because she is going to not only preserve abortion on demand, she’ll make us pay for it. If Donald Trump or Ted Cruz did that, they would be calling for their heads.

 

[gracepoole]

Still waiting for a list of her accomplishments which makes her competent enough to lead this country AND handle a crisis, should one happen. So far, I have seen ZILCH.

A genuine question: what evidence was there that proved GW could do this? What evidence is there that Cruz can do it?

Sometimes I think we ignore the obvious: no one is really qualified to be president. We can only hope that whomever is elected is better prepared for the gig than the others.

 

[gracepoole]

I find it amusing that some of the same liberals who couldn’t condemn Walmart enough for their anti-union strategy, their low pay, and driving others out of business, went silent when they learned Hillary Clinton was on the board of directors when those strategies were formulated.

Pretty sure most of these liberals are for Bernie. They may ultimately vote for HRC but I think that’s more a sign of the weakness of GOP candidates than anything else.

 

[Little_Sheep]

Still waiting for a list of her accomplishments which makes her competent enough to lead this country AND handle a crisis, should one happen. So far, I have seen ZILCH.

No disrespect to you, but I ignore the “what has she done question” at this stage in the game. It is meaningless rhetoric (like saying “Benghazi” over and over again…) and Google can answer it for you.

I’m not saying you’ll accept everything you find on Google - if you don’t like her, you don’t like her and nothing will change that.

Vote your conscience!

 

[meltzerboy]

We have to remember that Bill was not remembered fondly when he left office. In 2000 his own state would not vote for his Vice President, that is how little respect he had. Character counts, and in the democratic primary Bernie has a lot more character than Hillary.

I believe many Presidents are not remembered fondly when they leave office and their second term is usually more dismal than their first. I don’t say this as a supporter of Hillary Clinton (I support Bernie Sanders) but just as an observation based on what I’ve heard and read.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Pretty sure most of these liberals are for Bernie. They may ultimately vote for HRC but I think that’s more a sign of the weakness of GOP candidates than anything else.

Oh, I don’t think so at all. Bernie people will absolutely vote for Hillary because both candidates support the only real Democrat policy; abortion on demand. Everything else is secondary.

Never mind that Hillary Clinton was on Walmart’s board. Never mind that she aided Russian (therefore Iranian) control over America’s uranium, for money paid to Bill and their foundation. Never mind that she midwifed a terrorist takeover in Libya and (for awhile) in Egypt. She supports abortion on demand. And that’s enough. Being a Democrat is morally demanding. I know. That’s why I left the party.

 

[gracepoole]

Oh, I don’t think so at all. Bernie people will absolutely vote for Hillary because both candidates support the only real Democrat policy; abortion on demand. Everything else is secondary.

Not really. If you Google it, you’ll find loads of Bernie supporters who claim they won’t vote for HRC. To understand their thinking, you have to understand why they support Bernie. HRC espouses the opposite values in many respects.

 

[stinkcat_14]

I believe many Presidents are not remembered fondly when they leave office and their second term is usually more dismal than their first. I don’t say this as a supporter of Hillary Clinton (I support Bernie Sanders) but just as an observation based on what I’ve heard and read.

You are probably right. It does seem to be an occupational hazard.