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gracepoole said:
Which churches?
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Don’t you read what other people have already posted?
See what Sy Noe posted in response to Tomdstone, just immediately above my own post.
Suffice it to say, the one thing that they all have in common is their left-leaning biases.
 
grotto said:
First the slippery slope for Europe, Canada, America, Russia, and after all this time - abortion has revealed exactly where it comes from and what it does. :eek:
Countries in Europe for example, have been loosing their population, lowering to alarming levels. Their historical and cultural way of life is disappearing.

Perhaps those who wish to continue and bring others with them on their ruinous journey, will be stopped - one way or another. Those who blindly go along may get their eyes opened and at least see what they are missing. They will die alone, none to care for them, nobody to mourn their absence. The abyss they cannot avoid.

Other doctors, nurses, inventors, teachers, scientists, builders, (butchers, bakers and candy stick makers) - not among the living - the price of disobeying God. Mother Theresa said to women who live without God’s Love, give the child to me and I will love them.

Hilary’s desire to command and control must not be allowed to happen. She is unfit.

Just a few thoughts to continue posting, talking with others, one step and then another.
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Life is not without its problems, and abortion and other means of thwarting the next generation is the means that large swaths of humanity have chosen to deal with those problems. Female life is especially problematic in many Asian countries, and sex ratios have become skewed, through abortion, as the means to deal with that problem.
America has a bigger soap box that most countries. That is the reason that the American Democratic party has come into focus. When Nancy Pelosi lauds contraception as the solution to poverty and government expenditure on the poor, people tend to notice what kinds of solutions that the left in general puts out to deal with the problem of humanity.
It is not just a moral problem with justifying the destruction of innocent life at a universal, apocalyptic scale. It is also a spiritual problem, a fathomless spiritual abyss, in which human life itself is seen as the source of the problem.

There are no consequences to Democrats enabling abortion to pull huge swaths of the American populace deep down into the vortex of that spiritual abyss. Hillary Clinton can count on the majority of the Catholic vote top support here, the same as it always was.

There are very few mainstream political parties that I am aware of that still take the stance of Republicans, and keep the issue of human unborn life prominently in their platform, even to the point where politicians indifferent to the matter such as Donald Trump recognize that their is no path to the American presidency that does not include taking a stance against abortion. Americans still have a choice, and a political means forward against the pull of the abyss.
A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for the abyss.
 
gracepoole said:
I wasn’t trying to interpret you – I was trying to understand what you were literally saying here:
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Nowhere did I say that secularism advocates Satanism.

Tomdstone asked the question of which kinds of religions may advocate chopping the brains out of the partially born, and my response that Satanism might, and that to the extent that secular leftism is a religion, it does as well.

The context necessary to understand my response would be the question that Tomdstone raised about ‘what kinds of religion would be okay with PBA’?
 
Darryl1958 said:
Don’t you read what other people have already posted?
See what Sy Noe posted in response to Tomdstone, just immediately above my own post.
Suffice it to say, the one thing that they all have in common is their left-leaning biases.
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It’s not my reading comprehension that’s lacking – apparently it’s my ability to guess that you permit Sy to speak and answer for you.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Dull and physically unattractive come immediately to mind.
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I don’t think that Cruz and Trump are exactly oil paintings.

He is dull but not awfully ugly. Just looks to me like an ordinary bloke his age. Unless over in the States you are more used to attractive looking politicians? We have very few of those in the UK. :rolleyes:
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Certainly 99.999% of women who have abortions are not victims. I do agree that some are, e.g., the fourteen-year-old girl who is pressured into one by her parents or the wife with the physically abusive husband. Most women who go for abortions aren’t coerced, however. Most aren’t even coerced “softly” as one poster suggested. Most are just acting out of selfish reasons, i.e. they just don’t want a child or a child would be a burden to them.

Prosecutors have long recognized that most women who have abortions are not victims, but they’ve not prosecuted them because they wanted them to give up the name of the illegal abortionist. It’s analogous to the prosecution cutting a deal with a lesser criminal to put a bigger criminal in prison. The abortionist would be performing many more illegal abortions than one woman has, so the penalty went to the illegal abortionist even though, clearly, the women are culpable.

I think some kind of community service, possible working with children under supervision, would be a proper penalty for the women, though.
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clinicquotes.com/statistics-on-coerced-abortions/
theunchoice.com/pdf/FactSheets/ForcedAbortionFactSheet.pdf
futureswithoutviolence.org/userfiles/file/Children_and_Families/Reproductive.pdf
sites.google.com/site/chinaskidpolicy/forced-abortion-statistics-1
cwfa.org/rape-incest-and-abortion-women-victims-want-their-voices-heard/
 
gracepoole said:
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I already had explained that in one of my posts immediately previous to when you started asking questions. See Robert George A Clash of Orthodoxies).

Satanism is probably that kind of religion, and secular leftism advocates that this is okay as well to a religious degree.
Sy Noe amply demonstrated this with pointing out how United Churches and Universalist churches advocate this kind of thing.
What religion teaches that if a baby is partially born, with the head and limbs outside the womb, except that the umbilical cord is not yet cut, what religion teaches that it is OK to take a knife and cut out the brains and murder that child?
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There is nothing further I can do to explain myself, if posting is not enough.
 
Vouthon said:
I don’t think that Cruz and Trump are exactly oil paintings.

He is dull but not awfully ugly. Just looks to me like an ordinary bloke his age. Unless over in the States you are more used to attractive looking politicians? We have very few of those in the UK. :rolleyes:
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That’s funny☺️I agree,re John Kasich,I don’t find him unattractive in the least,actually he is better looking IMO than either Ted Cruz or the Donald:p
 
Jeanne_S said:
That’s funny☺️I agree,re John Kasich,I don’t find him unattractive in the least,actually he is better looking IMO than either Ted Cruz or the Donald:p
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Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, I think. I can’t stand the way the three Repub. potentials look, including Kasich. I think Rubio is quite good looking - and I like blonde men - and even Jeb Bush is better looking than the three still standing.
 
Vouthon said:
I don’t think that Cruz and Trump are exactly oil paintings.

He is dull but not awfully ugly. Just looks to me like an ordinary bloke his age. Unless over in the States you are more used to attractive looking politicians? We have very few of those in the UK. :rolleyes:
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No, most of our politicians are just average looking people. They don’t seem to be much interested in their looks. No time, I guess, might be part of it.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, I think. I can’t stand the way the three Repub. potentials look, including Kasich. I think Rubio is quite good looking - and I like blonde men - and even Jeb Bush is better looking than the three still standing.
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okey dokey
 
Lily_Bernans said:
No, most of our politicians are just average looking people. They don’t seem to be much interested in their looks. No time, I guess, might be part of it.
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Maybe thats why the Kennedy’s were so popular and became America’s de facto royal family? Stylish and relatively good looking? Y’all must have been desperate for some eye candy 😃
 
Jeanne_S said:
That’s funny☺️I agree,re John Kasich,I don’t find him unattractive in the least,actually he is better looking IMO than either Ted Cruz or the Donald:p
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I agree - he’s got a more friendly demeanour than both of them as well. Trump is brutish and beastly, while Cruz (and I hope this doesn’t come across too unkind) reminds me of a vampire or some creature of the night. He’s mad looking and borderline scary IMHO.

To be fair, a person doesn’t have to be drop dead gorgeous to have charm and attractiveness.

The historical Cleopatra wasn’t a beauty like Elizabeth Taylor but they say she had a sexy voice and irresistible allure that acted like an aphrodisiac. She was seductive in her own way. Might not pass the golden mean but she floated Mark Antony and Caesar’s boats.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, I think. I can’t stand the way the three Repub. potentials look, including Kasich. I think Rubio is quite good looking - and I like blonde men - and even Jeb Bush is better looking than the three still standing.
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I think that all of them, on both sides of the aisle, are attractive. Some are more my cuppa tea than others - some make me Squee and some make me Wince, but they are attractive humans.

That’s not something that “should” matter (or is it?), but certainly we can admit to the fact that it does.
 
Little_Sheep said:
I think that all of them, on both sides of the aisle, are attractive. Some are more my cuppa tea than others - some make me Squee and some make me Wince, but they are attractive humans.

That’s not something that “should” matter (or is it?), but certainly we can admit to the fact that it does.
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Oh no, it shouldn’t but human beings can be surprisingly superficial sometimes. 😉

I recall vividly that when I was in high school and Obama was this rising star in the primaries, tipped to be POTUS, girls were soft for him - proudly brandishing his autobiography around because (and I quote), “He’s a babe”. That was here in Britain - British schoolgirls reading an American politician’s memoir because them found him “cute”. 🤷
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I can’t stand the way the three Repub. potentials look, including Kasich. I think Rubio is quite good looking - and I like blonde men - and even Jeb Bush is better looking than the three still standing.
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IMHO, it is irresponsible to vote for someone on the basis of the color or style of their hair. I look at what they stand for, and what their policies are. For example, I would not vote for someone who demands that religious beliefs be changed and who strongly supports the brutal and bloody murder of partially born children even if her hair was styled and colored nicely. For me the color of her hair would be irrelevant.
 
Tomdstone said:
IMHO, it is irresponsible to vote for someone on the basis of the color or style of their hair. I look at what they stand for, and what their policies are. For example, I would not vote for someone who demands that religious beliefs be changed and who strongly supports the brutal and bloody murder of partially born children even if her hair was styled and colored nicely. For me the color of her hair would be irrelevant.
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Irresponsible indeed. But far too many folks in the electorate have that in mind as well as other inane reasons.
 
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