Hillary Clinton Thread

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stinkcat_14 said:
Thanks for teaching me a new word. I wonder what the parallels between Bernie Sanders and Jerry Brown are. If I recall correctly, Brown went all the way to the convention even though Bill Clinton pretty much locked it up.
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Did you never watch the opening credits to ‘Laverne and Shirley’ where the main characters sing “schlemiel, schlimazal, Hossenpfeffer Incorporated!”
 
Thorolfr said:
Many European countries such as France have virtually free college education which is paid for from tax revenues. It’s certainly a much better way to have spent their tax money than what we did by pouring over a trillion dollars down the drain for an ill-advised war in Iraq. Just think of how many people we could have sent to college on the $1.7 trillion we wasted in Iraq.
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I think of that all the time. Not to mention our crumbling infrastructure.
 
tomarin said:
Did you never watch the opening credits to ‘Laverne and Shirley’ where the main characters sing “schlemiel, schlimazal, Hossenpfeffer Incorporated!”
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I used to watch that when it was popular, and I never understood what they were saying. I guess its never too late to learn!
 
Ridgerunner said:
Had we stayed in Iraq to guard the peace, it would have been productive. The Kurds, the sunni and the shia all begged us to stay. The CIA chief, the Joint Chiefs and the DIA chief all said the same thing. But Obama had made his promise to abandon Iraq, and so now, as predicted, it’s a battle ground between Sunni radicals and Iran. No surprise.

And the trillion dollars spent on the “stimulus” package? What did that get us? And what about the war on Libya? What did that do for this country? And the money given to the Muslim Brotherhood?

European countries pay for all things, one way or another. Nothing’s free. Their taxes are also higher and their wages lower, for the most part.
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Can’t say for sure where the trillion on the stimulus went to, except to speculate that it went to the rich in general. Taxpayer money as a rule is funneled into the mega-social projects through the pockets of the rich.

In terms of the billions in Haiti, Dinesh D-Souza investigates Hil and Bil and how they ran the show in Haiti.
nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation
 
Darryl1958 said:
Can’t say for sure where the trillion on the stimulus went to, except to speculate that it went to the rich in general. Taxpayer money as a rule is funneled into the mega-social projects through the pockets of the rich.

In terms of the billions in Haiti, Dinesh D-Souza investigates Hil and Bil and how they ran the show in Haiti.
nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation
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Speaking of Dinesh,I like the way he does time in a federal prison for exceeding a campaign contribution.However,Hillary ,nah…l:mad:
 
meltzerboy said:
I think that would be a good idea provided he doesn’t start campaigning again.
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still waiting to see her VP pick.

I am wondering what Bernie’s plans are for the future. a spot in Hillary’s administration if she wins perhaps?
 
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_Abyssinia said:
Although it’s not been officially confirmed, after this apparently from Bill Clinton, it seems pretty obvious that it looks like the most likely person who will be Hillary Clinton’s VP pick will be Senator Tim Kaine: thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288647-bill-clinton-wants-kaine-for-dem-vp-report
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I believe he is a pro-choice Catholic, so many Catholic voters will rally around him to help her get the Catholic vote where she is already way ahead of Trump.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I believe he is a pro-choice Catholic, so many Catholic voters will rally around him to help her get the Catholic vote where she is already way ahead of Trump.
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Which is an embarrassment in and of itself. What a lost religion we have become, to even get to a point where this is our choice. We have failed miserably.

Kaine is their version of Pence. Solid, not super exciting, but good cred.

Will probably tee off the Bernie voters since this does nothing for them. Remains to be seen how many
  1. suck it up and vote for Hillary
  2. stay home
  3. Vote for Trump
  4. vote for the irrelevant Green lib whatshername
 
7_Sorrows said:
I believe he is a pro-choice Catholic, so many Catholic voters will rally around him to help her get the Catholic vote where she is already way ahead of Trump.
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Tim Kaine seems to have a very similar position on abortion that Joe Biden does, both seem to personally oppose abortion but don’t think the government should interfere: thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288016-kaine-seeks-to-reassure-dems-on-abortion-stance

Bishops have written about the issues with Joe Biden’s position…
 
_Abyssinia said:
Tim Kaine seems to have a very similar position on abortion that Joe Biden does, both seem to personally oppose abortion but don’t think the government should interfere: thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288016-kaine-seeks-to-reassure-dems-on-abortion-stance

Bishops have written about the issues with Joe Biden’s position…
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That argument is, and continues to be, such a total and complete joke. If we were discussing rape, and used Biden’s cowardly, bet hedging, no backbone argument, people would think we were nuts. I oppose rape and all personally, but who I am to tell men what they can or can’t do with their nether regions. Garbage.

But when Biden and Kaine do it, they are personally devout men who simply don’t want to enforce GOD’S ACTUAL PLAN FOR MANKIND on anyone when inconvenient. Again, what a load of garbage.
 
I think the leading candidates to become Hillary Clinton’s VP (assuming speculation is accurate) are proof that the Democrats consider this election to be very close. If Clinton was totally confident of victory in November, I think her choice would be a very liberal minority or a woman, but if she wasn’t feeling too secure and felt the need to pick up some votes from outside the Democratic party’s solid base, the pick would be a white male centrist.
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
Which is an embarrassment in and of itself. What a lost religion we have become, to even get to a point where this is our choice. We have failed miserably.

Kaine is their version of Pence. Solid, not super exciting, but good cred.

Will probably tee off the Bernie voters since this does nothing for them. Remains to be seen how many
  1. suck it up and vote for Hillary
  2. stay home
  3. Vote for Trump
  4. vote for the irrelevant Green lib whatshername
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pretty sad.
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
That argument is, and continues to be, such a total and complete joke. If we were discussing rape, and used Biden’s cowardly, bet hedging, no backbone argument, people would think we were nuts. I oppose rape and all personally, but who I am to tell men what they can or can’t do with their nether regions. Garbage.

But when Biden and Kaine do it, they are personally devout men who simply don’t want to enforce GOD’S ACTUAL PLAN FOR MANKIND on anyone when inconvenient. Again, what a load of garbage.
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I agree 100% !
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
Which is an embarrassment in and of itself. What a lost religion we have become, to even get to a point where this is our choice. We have failed miserably.

Kaine is their version of Pence. Solid, not super exciting, but good cred.

Will probably tee off the Bernie voters since this does nothing for them. Remains to be seen how many
  1. suck it up and vote for Hillary
  2. stay home
  3. Vote for Trump
  4. vote for the irrelevant Green lib whatshername
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Jill Stein is her name, and she is not irrelevant to those who vote for her. Otherwise, I agree with your points.
 
Seamus_L said:
I think the leading candidates to become Hillary Clinton’s VP (assuming speculation is accurate) are proof that the Democrats consider this election to be very close. If Clinton was totally confident of victory in November, I think her choice would be a very liberal minority or a woman, but if she wasn’t feeling too secure and felt the need to pick up some votes from outside the Democratic party’s solid base, the pick would be a white male centrist.
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That’s an interesting take, most people are saying that her short list is showing just the opposite. She seems to be moving away from the surprise! picks, or a pick that would energize the base, and staying in her comfort zone of a safe, work-horse pick. Most think that if she picks someone safe, like Kaine for example, it will be because she’s feeling comfortable with her current position and “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

Kaine will be a boring pick and, as much as we may have become addicted to the reality tv show aspect of this cycle, he would be a smart pick for her IF she’s confident she will be the next president. Kaine’s the pick of someone who doesn’t feel the need to create buzz and is instead simply trying to decide who she wants as her vice-president rather than who she needs as her running mate to win.

I don’t know though, you may be right. I just don’t see Hillary as a natural risk-taker and I don’t think she would be talked into taking a risk unless her team thought she really, really needed to take one. If she goes with someone safe and well… boring, I think it will be because she’s feeling pretty confident.

As you may note, I’m not all that enthused about Kaine. He’s growing on me though. Someone last week asked him about the perception that he’s boring and he said something like, “Well, I am boring, but boring is the fastest growing new demographic.”😃
 
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