Hillary Clinton Thread

[ComplineSanFran]

If the main tenants and commandments are subject to relativism, then what is left?

Faith. Prayer. Love of God. Compassion and care for our fellow brothers and sisters. And perhaps most of all, our Lord Jesus.

 

[josh987654321]

Faith. Prayer. Love of God. Compassion and care for our fellow brothers and sisters. And perhaps most of all, our Lord Jesus.

What about the compassion and care for our fellow brothers and sisters in their mothers wombs?

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.
Jeremiah 1:5

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.
Psalm 139:15

 

[ComplineSanFran]

What about the compassion and care for our fellow brothers and sisters in their mothers wombs?

I would say that most holy people of God are feeding the hungry, giving the thirsty something to drink, caring for the stranger and inviting them in, clothing those who need clothes, healing the sick and visiting those in prison - all the things that are Biblically commanded by Christ for us to do.

We have a huge charge in all these things, with the living people in front of us.

 

[josh987654321]

I would say that most holy people of God are feeding the hungry, giving the thirsty something to drink, caring for the stranger and inviting them in, clothing those who need clothes, healing the sick and visiting those in prison - all the things that are Biblically commanded by Christ for us to do.

We have a huge charge in all these things, with the living people in front of us.

How about ‘Thou shalt not kill’? or can we break that commandment so long as we feed the hungry?

In order to administer corporal works of mercy such as feeding the hungry, the hungry need to be allowed to live, rather than murdered because they might grow up hungry/thirsty.

 

[estesbob]

I would say that most holy people of God are feeding the hungry, giving the thirsty something to drink, caring for the stranger and inviting them in, clothing those who need clothes, healing the sick and visiting those in prison - all the things that are Biblically commanded by Christ for us to do.

We have a huge charge in all these things, with the living people in front of us.

Yes we do-an obligation we cannot fulfill by voting for somebody who promises to do it for us. We also can’t do this to the 50 million+ killed - the womb which is supported by many many people who claim to be compassionate and caring.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I would say that most holy people of God are feeding the hungry, giving the thirsty something to drink, caring for the stranger and inviting them in, clothing those who need clothes, healing the sick and visiting those in prison - all the things that are Biblically commanded by Christ for us to do.

We have a huge charge in all these things, with the living people in front of us.

This is the straw man argument used by the pro choice crowd.It is specious and tiresome.As already stated,real compassion and love of our neighbor begins by loving,cherishing and protecting the most vulnerable among us,life in the womb!

 

[DeniseNY]

This is the straw man argument used by the pro choice crowd.It is specious and tiresome.As already stated,real compassion and love of our neighbor begins by loving,cherishing and protecting the most vulnerable among us,life in the womb!

 

[ComplineSanFran]

This is the straw man argument used by the pro choice crowd.It is specious and tiresome.As already stated,real compassion and love of our neighbor begins by loving,cherishing and protecting the most vulnerable among us,life in the womb!

I believe that for Hillary and the ‘pro-choice crowd’, there is no doubt that the first priority is to feed the hungry person in front of you. A pregnant woman, if she is hungry, give her food. If she needs to make a decision about her pregnancy, give her resources to do that.

I know we disagree but I just want to clarify this point: the person in front of you who is in need takes top priority.

 

[Tamsulosin]

ComplineSanFran:

Is trying to conspire unfairly against a competitor like Bernie Sanders part of the love for our fellow brothers? Wasn’t Hillary aware of these deceitful maneuvers practiced on her behalf? At some point "love, prayer, faith, Jesus Christ "have to translate into actions,to be practiced.Otherwise, in my view,it sounds like an empty faith, just nice sounding words.

Jesus Christ did not lie, abdicate death for the vulnerable or cheat.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I believe that for Hillary and the ‘pro-choice crowd’, there is no doubt that the first priority is to feed the hungry person in front of you. A pregnant woman, if she is hungry, give her food. If she needs to make a decision about her pregnancy, give her resources to do that.

I know we disagree but I just want to clarify this point: the person in front of you who is in need takes top priority.

Excuse me?is it Hillary and her ilk working tirelessly in the crisis pregnancy centers throughout this country? I wager a bet,bevause have worked in a crises pregnancy center,with the women and men who give freely of their time and treasure to come to the aid of women in crises are people of faith.Not HC types!

 

[ComplineSanFran]

Excuse me?is it Hillary and her ilk working tirelessly in the crisis pregnancy centers throughout this country? I wager a bet,bevause have worked in a crises pregnancy center,with the women and men who give freely of their time and treasure to come to the aid of women in crises are people of faith.Not HC types!

That has not been my experience. The people out on the street and in clinics (not just health clinics) tend to be progressive social action people. Glide Memorial Church is one example here in San Francisco. Do you know of it?

glide.org/ourwork

If you are looking for Catholic social activists, there are places all around town. We have people in the Castro, St Anthony’s, San Francisco Night Ministry, etc. I haven’t taken a vote, but my guess is not too many are supporters of Donald Trump.

 

[Jeanne_S]

That has not been my experience. The people out on the street and in clinics (not just health clinics) tend to be progressive social action people. Glide Memorial Church is one example here in San Francisco. Do you know of it?

glide.org/ourwork

If you are looking for Catholic social activists, there are places all around town. We have people in the Castro, St Anthony’s, San Francisco Night Ministry, etc. I haven’t taken a vote, but my guess is not too many are supporters of Donald Trump.

It depends on your perspective,where you live ,no doubt it is Hillary Counrty.My point is that if your man argument for being pro choice is that we who are prolife don’t care beyond the womb,you are just off the mark.No doubt there are many of no religious and all political persuasions thT tend to the needs of the underserved.Your statement clearly implied that we as Cathoilic/ Christians aren’t stepping up to the plate in that regard. I have witnessed personally,the many Catholics who generously donate time and treasure to helping the women in crises before,during and after a pregnancy.

 

[ComplineSanFran]

My point is that if your man argument for being pro choice is that we who are prolife don’t care beyond the womb,you are just off the mark.No doubt there are many of no religious and all political persuasions thT tend to the needs of the underserved.Your statement clearly implied that we as Cathoilic/ Christians aren’t stepping up to the plate in that regard. I have witnessed personally,the many Catholics who generously donate time and treasure to helping the women in crises before,during and after a pregnancy.

No, that wasn’t the point I was making at all. My point was that people of strong moral character and people of great faith (not limiting it to Christian by any means) are out there caring for the poor and needy. Those who call themselves progressives or liberal or socially active put the priority on those who are alive and in need. The pro-life issue is yours; it is not so much an issue for the rest of us until you take away the legal right afforded women. You’ll probably hear that a lot at the convention this coming week.

 

[Jeanne_S]

No, that wasn’t the point I was making at all. My point was that people of strong moral character and people of great faith (not limiting it to Christian by any means) are out there caring for the poor and needy. Those who call themselves progressives or liberal or socially active put the priority on those who are alive and in need. The pro-life issue is yours; it is not so much an issue for the rest of us until you take away the legal right afforded women. You’ll probably hear that a lot at the convention this coming week.

I have no intention of listening to even one second of the convention,heard it four years ago,seriously doubt the message has changed. Dorothy Day,who instituted the Catholic Worker program,was all about social justice and tending to the needs of the underserved.She was also ardently prolife anti abortion.You seem to think the two are mutually exclusive.Maybe they are for thevproaborts certainly not the case for the prolife movement.

 

[Sy_Noe]

I believe that for Hillary and the ‘pro-choice crowd’, there is no doubt that the first priority is to feed the hungry person in front of you. A pregnant woman, if she is hungry, give her food. If she needs to make a decision about her pregnancy, give her resources to do that.

I know we disagree but I just want to clarify this point: the person in front of you who is in need takes top priority.

Well said ComplineSanFran.

 

[gilliam]

I know we disagree but I just want to clarify this point: the person in front of you who is in need takes top priority.

When you are in front of a pregnant woman, you are in front of the child as well.

This isn’t a case of out of sight, out of mind.

 

[Sy_Noe]

That has not been my experience. The people out on the street and in clinics (not just health clinics) tend to be progressive social action people. Glide Memorial Church is one example here in San Francisco. Do you know of it?

glide.org/ourwork

If you are looking for Catholic social activists, there are places all around town. We have people in the Castro, St Anthony’s, San Francisco Night Ministry, etc. I haven’t taken a vote, but my guess is not too many are supporters of Donald Trump.

I didn’t know of it but thank you for sharing it with us. They certainly do indeed appear to be quite a blessing for the people of San Francisco.

 

[Sy_Noe]

I have no intention of listening to even one second of the convention,heard it four years ago,seriously doubt the message has changed. Dorothy Day,who instituted the Catholic Worker program,was all about social justice and tending to the needs of the underserved.She was also ardently prolife anti abortion.You seem to think the two are mutually exclusive.Maybe they are for thevproaborts certainly not the case for the prolife movement.

I listened to 1 hr and 15 minutes of Donald Trump even though I’d heard it all before.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I listened to 1 hr and 15 minutes of Donald Trump even though I’d heard it all before.

That certainly is your prerogativeve,however I will take a pass

 

[SuperLuigi]

I would say that most holy people of God are feeding the hungry, giving the thirsty something to drink, caring for the stranger and inviting them in, clothing those who need clothes, healing the sick and visiting those in prison - all the things that are Biblically commanded by Christ for us to do.

We have a huge charge in all these things, with the living people in front of us.

Somehow, I don’t think that involves taking credit for what other people do by pulling the lever for liberal, anti-Christian politicians every 2-4 years amidst excuses to support worldly secular desires.