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Personally, I don’t think I know any cradle Republicans and I don’t know of anyone who started out Republican and became a Democrat. Of course that’s not to say they don’t exist, but I also don’t know where they are!
I voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and I and my family were Republicans at the time, but I’m now a Democrat. So I started out Republican and became a Democrat. Hillary Clinton herself started out a Republican and became a Democrat.
 
Personally, I don’t think I know any cradle Republicans and I don’t know of anyone who started out Republican and became a Democrat. Of course that’s not to say they don’t exist, but I also don’t know where they are!
I know a number of former Republicans who are now independents (and sometimes vote Dem). This cycle, I know a couple of Republicans who are voting Dem, at least for President.
 
Personally, I don’t think I know any cradle Republicans and I don’t know of anyone who started out Republican and became a Democrat. Of course that’s not to say they don’t exist, but I also don’t know where they are!
I was a cradle Republican, raised in South Carolina, who is now a proud Democrat. We do, in fact, exist. 👍
 
Dr. Drew speaks out on Hillary’s Health (Full Interview)

Dr Drew is the only TV doctors I actually trust, this interview is interesting because he talks not so much about HRC’s health but the level of care she is getting. According to him the tests and medications she are being given are out of date.
Yawn.

Hillary looks and sounds great. She might look a little better if she didn’t have to wear Kevlar under everything, but - no matter. She is clearly ready for the job.
 
That might be me. My father was a conservative who said that the only candidate for president that he ever voted for without any reservations was Barry Goldwater. I grew up in a pretty conservative household.

And yet here I am today, a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie Sanders in the presidential primary.
Except for the voting for Bernie part, you sound like Hillary Clinton. From what I’ve read and heard, her father was conservative and she was raised in a conservative household. She volunteered for Goldwater and as a college freshman was president of the Young Republicans. But by her junior yr she was supporting Democratic candidate Eugene McCarthy in his effort to win the Democratic Party’s nomination. And her faith was influential in her concern for social justice as well. And today she remains a registered Democrat.
 
I agree. It sometimes amazes me what short memories some people can have. Because it’s hard to seriously make the argument that overall the economy is not better. Those who try I believe do so merely for political reasons. Like you said, things are not perfect. There is agreement across the aisle that more still needs to be done. But Obama certainly has led America out of the ditch. No question about that. One only needs to look at the unemployment rate between now and then as I believe it was Thorolfr who has shown that. And look at the number of jobs we were losing monthly prior to Obama. As Hillary has often said, President Obama doesn’t get enough credit for having steered the ship in a better direction. Sure there may be some who are working part time who would still prefer full time and wages are too stagnant. This though despite corporations having done quite well for much of Obama’s Presidency.

Wages though have been stagnant for yrs. Long before Obama.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/

thinkprogress.org/wages-have-been-stagnant-for-40-years-but-its-not-the-fault-of-american-workers-ede9b2133989#.k15d761zr

And the housing market is better. My home’s market value has risen 62% since it’s low point.
I’m very proud that we gave Obama eight years. He will be remembered as an amazing POTUS. I remain heartbroken at the state of the Republican Party. We need a strong, principled Conservative voice in this Country…when will that voice emerge, I wonder…
 
I’m very proud that we gave Obama eight years. He will be remembered as an amazing POTUS. I remain heartbroken at the state of the Republican Party. We need a strong, principled Conservative voice in this Country…when will that voice emerge, I wonder…
You are joking right?
  • **** poor economic recovery
  • failed in major healthcare objectives
  • failed in Foreign Policy objectives
  • added > 8 Trillion to deficit
  • etc.
 
You are joking right?
  • **** poor economic recovery
  • failed in major healthcare objectives
  • failed in Foreign Policy objectives
  • added > 8 Trillion to deficit
  • etc.
exactly and I cannot predict what will happen if Hillary wins - if she will make things worse or be somewhat of an improvement over Obama.
 
It’s the man or woman carrying a football.
:D:rotfl:
I’ve noticed that several posters who are now Republican or Republican-leaning were former Democrats. I was just wondering where the cradle Republicans hang out and also whether it ever works the other way around, starting as Republican and becoming Democrat.
Sure it happens. Lots of kids go off to college and get indoctrinated. Some manage to come to their senses after they graduate and enter the real world.
Except for the voting for Bernie part, you sound like Hillary Clinton. From what I’ve read and heard, her father was conservative and she was raised in a conservative household. She volunteered for Goldwater and as a college freshman was president of the Young Republicans. But by her junior yr she was supporting Democratic candidate Eugene McCarthy in his effort to win the Democratic Party’s nomination. ** And her faith was influential in her concern for social justice as well. ** And today she remains a registered Democrat.
Was her faith influential in becoming devoted to the hard-core communist Alinsky who dedicated his book to Satan? Think about that for a second. A Christian who has fawning praise for and follows the instructions of such a man and a book actually dedicated to Satan!
You are joking right?
  • **** poor economic recovery
  • failed in major healthcare objectives
  • failed in Foreign Policy objectives
  • added > 8 Trillion to deficit
  • etc.
$9 Trillion. Probably close to $10T when he leaves office.
 
Over the past 10 years the economy has grown at a snails rate of 2.3%. And I am not praising the GOP, the GOP leadership is in bed with the DNC.

Who said anything about the number of governemnt workers? I said they are doing better, much better today, than they were 10 years ago. The average government worker earns $51,000. This doesnt included all the benefits they get.
Under Obama’s policies, economic growth has averaged 1.5%.

Much, much worse than a snail’s page.

During the Reagan years, the average annual GDP increase was 3.5% per year.

During the Clinton years, the average annual GDP increase was 3.9% per year.

During the George W. Bush years, the average annual GDP increase was 2.0% per year.

During the Obama years, the average annual GDP increase was 1.5% per year.

Obama has brought us the worst recovery ever.
 
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/i...tone_via_wwwshutterstockcom_CNA.jpgWashington D.C., Aug 17, 2016 / 05:43 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has claimed to be a defender of religious freedom. But does it match the facts?

Georgetown University professor Thomas Farr has his doubts.

“Anyone who believes that a President Hillary Clinton will support the religious freedom of Catholic elementary and high schools, colleges, refugee services, adoption agencies, homes for the aged poor, or any other private organization, is making a mistake,” Farr told CNA. “Her own words suggest that even churches will not evade her understanding of the kind of ‘compelling government interest’ that she considers abortion and same-sex marriage to be.”

Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, addressed religious freedom in an exclusive editorial in the Utah newspaper The Deseret News.

“As Americans, we hold fast to the belief that everyone has the **right to worship **however he or she sees fit,” Clinton said in the Aug. 10 essay. “I’ve been fighting to defend religious freedom for years.”

“Americans don’t have to agree on everything. We never have,” she added. “But when it comes to religion, we strive to be accepting of everyone around us. That’s because we need each other.”

Clinton, in her essay written largely for a Mormon audience, linked Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s proposal to ban Muslim immigration to the U.S. to 19th century efforts to expel Mormons from the state of Missouri and to limit Mormon immigration to the U.S.

But Brian Burch, president of CatholicVote.org, charged that Clinton “favors extremist policies that would punish charities like the Little Sisters of the Poor along with thousands of similar Catholic-inspired charities.”

Clinton’s words come during a long legal fight against the Obama administration’s mandate that Catholic and other organizations provide employee health coverage of sterilization and contraception, including some drugs that can cause abortions. There are also continuing controversies over the freedom of adoption agencies, relief agencies and religious schools to have policies in line with their beliefs.

Both Burch and Farr noted Clinton’s use of the phrase “right to worship.”

“She publicly opposes the long understood definition of religious freedom by hiding behind the euphemism of ‘freedom of worship’,” Burch said. “What this means is she supports the freedom of Catholics to pray inside of our churches, at least for now. But once outside we must embrace the orthodoxy of secular anti-Catholic progressives.”

Farr, who directs the Religious Freedom Project at Georgetown’s Berkley Center, said that Clinton’s focus on the “right to worship” relegates religion to the private sphere “with no capacity to influence public matters.”

“Her use of the term, and its deeper meaning, are quite consistent with her attacks on churches and religious organizations that oppose the progressive agenda of abortion on demand and same-sex marriage,” he said. “Last year she told an international conference that religious groups who oppose abortion are going to have to change. Some commitment to religious freedom.”

Clinton’s editorial in the Utah newspaper has deeper significance in 2016. The state is a traditional Republican bastion and most of its residents are adherents of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, colloquially known as Mormons.
Full article…
Clinton refers constantly to “freedom of worship” … but NOT to freedom of religion.

usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/04/28/hillary-cling-religion-god-policy-column/26462609/
 
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