Hispanic Boom Brings Big Changes for Nation and Its Politics

[Abyssinia]

America’s Hispanic population is growing faster and spreading farther than previously assumed according a new report from the 2010 Census.

With the 2012 elections looming, many Democrats are encouraged to see the rapid growth in Hispanic population, an ethnic group that favored Barack Obama by two-to-one margin in the 2008 election according to exit polls. And current polls show that Obama maintains a healthy job approval rating among Hispanics – 20 points higher than the population at large in some polls.

But there are suggestions that the rise in Hispanic population poses some long-term challenges to Democrats, too.

Michael Barone, senior political analyst for The Washington Examiner and the author of the “Almanac of American Politics,” says while black voters tend overwhelmingly favor Democrats, Hispanic voters are less united.

Barone said that the strength of Democrats among Hispanics may be a function of geography, not just ethnic identity.

“Hispanics in California are very Democratic. It’s a state where white voters also tend to be Democratic,” Barone said. “Hispanics in Texas tend to be less Democratic…and you have states like Florida where Hispanics are voting majority Republican.”

Read more: foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/24/hispanic-boom-brings-big-changes-nation-politics/#ixzz1HdZemm6Y

Is is true that if the Republican party does not get serious about getting minority voters, the Republican party will diminish?

 

[lynx]

Is is true that if the Republican party does not get serious about getting minority voters, the Republican party will diminish?

Diminish is a very appropriate word. Until repubs talk about a path to citizenship this will not change very much. But, once they do offer a path, the dems will lose big time. Hispanic populations I see are generally pro-life, which is the general repub claim to fame.

 

[Occidental]

Diminish is a very appropriate word. Until repubs talk about a path to citizenship this will not change very much. But, once they do offer a path, the dems will lose big time. Hispanic populations I see are generally pro-life, which is the general repub claim to fame.

Why should we offer them ‘paths to citizenships’? How would it help the US to allow a huge ammount of people, not of our culture, but disdainfull of it, along with our laws to stay? All the while radically changing our demographics, bringing all sorts of crime et cetera?

 

[lynx]

Why should we offer them ‘paths to citizenships’? How would it help the US to allow a huge ammount of people, not of our culture, but disdainfull of it, along with our laws to stay? All the while radically changing our demographics, bringing all sorts of crime et cetera?

Because a majority are people just like you and me trying to scrape by and make a life for their family. I’m not saying take everyone, but other dems are saying we should try and take the best of them, ie a path to citizenship. This is important to the Hispanic immigrant and Hispanic US citizen. Why do you care if it radically changes the demographic?

 

[Occidental]

Because a majority are people just like you and me trying to scrape by and make a life for their family. I’m not saying take everyone, but other dems are saying we should try and take the best of them, ie a path to citizenship. This is important to the Hispanic immigrant and Hispanic US citizen. Why do you care if it radically changes the demographic?

Because I love this nation, which is (as any nation) defined by its language, borders, and culture.

Yes, I do realize they are for the most part decent people, but they tried amnest in 1986, and did the problem go away? It made it worse.

 

[lynx]

Because I love this nation, which is (as any nation) defined by its language, borders, and culture.

We all love this nation in our own way, but I think American Patriotism and national pride extends its arbitrary borders. The language of our nation is a mixture of everything, there is no set language for the USA. As with the language, there is no set culture. America does its best to take the best from all cultures and represent them in unity as best as possible.

Yes, I do realize they are for the most part decent people, but they tried amnest in 1986, and did the problem go away? It made it worse.

I’m not arguing amnesty. If you’re here illegally you have to go. But, the dems are arguing a method of becoming a legal citizen if you meet certain criteria.

 

[bbarrick8383]

The mexicans around here are pretty cool people. I’d love to learn their language. I think they should have to go through a process to get here, but as far as their culture goes I think they could teach us a thing or two about how important it is for family to stick togethor. The only thing I don’t like is their music(and I like all kinds of music), other than that I think they fit in just fine here in So. Oklahoma.

We had to move a refrigerator a couple weeks ago, the mexican neighbors out drinking some beer watching us back the truck up came over and practically unloaded the thing for us.

 

[Occidental]

I’m not arguing amnesty. If you’re here illegally you have to go. But, the dems are arguing a method of becoming a legal citizen if you meet certain criteria.

I’ll just say that we dont see it exactly the same way before a flame war erupts.

 

[Occidental]

The mexicans around here are pretty cool people. I’d love to learn their language. I think they should have to go through a process to get here, but as far as their culture goes I think they could teach us a thing or two about how important it is for family to stick togethor. The only thing I don’t like is their music(and I like all kinds of music), other than that I think they fit in just fine here in So. Oklahoma.

We had to move a refrigerator a couple weeks ago, the mexican neighbors out drinking some beer watching us back the truck up came over and practically unloaded the thing for us.

Yeah, many are very nice people, but I just don’t want our country to turn into Mexico.

 

[bbarrick8383]

Yeah, many are very nice people, but I just don’t want our country to turn into Mexico.

Neither do I, but I don’t see that happening because many of them do not want their country to turn into Mexico either. (It’s why their here.)

Many foreigners are more conservative than many Americans are. They know exactly what’s wrong with the place they came from.

 

[Occidental]

Let me rephrase that so it (hopefully) cannot be twisted. I would not like the United States to become more like mexico in aspects of poverty and crime, and quality of life in general.

And whick part of London do you live in? My cousins use to live in Stroud Green (Finsbury Park tube station) and it literally was more akin to West Africa than an English town.

 

[stephe1987]

There are paths to citizenship. Many immigrants come to the USA legally every year.

The problem is when an illegal immigrant who is already here wants to become a citizen. They can’t really apply because then the government would know they’re here and they’d have to go home. But I think increasing the number of immigrants allowed from Mexico might be a good idea once the economy gets back to normal. Right now there is a high percentages of citizens who don’t have jobs, so we can’t really take in new people just yet.

 

[LCMS_No_More]

The mexicans around here are pretty cool people. I’d love to learn their language. I think they should have to go through a process to get here, but as far as their culture goes I think they could teach us a thing or two about how important it is for family to stick togethor. The only thing I don’t like is their music(and I like all kinds of music), other than that I think they fit in just fine here in So. Oklahoma.

We had to move a refrigerator a couple weeks ago, the mexican neighbors out drinking some beer watching us back the truck up came over and practically unloaded the thing for us.

Ah, the whole wide world of Mexican music. I speak Spanish fluently and live with a Mexican who is from Guadalajara, Jalisco, home of Mariachi and Tequila (he turns into a puddle whenever he hears a Mariachi play “Guadalajara.”). The most popular kind of Mexican music in the US right now grupero and duranguenze. I’ve found that grupero has a lot of nice songs that I enjoy listening to while Duranquenze takes all of what I consider the most annoying elements of Mexican music and puts them all together. From what I understand, these forms are more popular in the central/northern parts of Mexico. Given a choice, though, I’d rather listen to bachata or salsa, which is more popular in Mexico City and the south.

 

[Occidental]

Sorry, I wasn’t sure of Stroud Greens state. I assumed it was a town.

As far as towns go, my favourite is Haltwhistle up near the wall. I see that town as ideal.

And if they live their, I would certainly want anyone to go to Mass at a Catholic church.

And you’re lucky, my wife’s a lutheran…

 

[Abyssinia]

Diminish is a very appropriate word. Until repubs talk about a path to citizenship this will not change very much. But, once they do offer a path, the dems will lose big time. Hispanic populations I see are generally pro-life, which is the general repub claim to fame.

If most Hispanic people are pro life why are the majority voting for the Democrats?

What differs between the Hispanics in Florida who vote majority Republican and other Hispanics in other states who vote majority Democrat?

 

[Occidental]

If most Hispanic people are pro life why are the majority voting for the Democrats?

What differs between the Hispanics in Florida who vote majority Republican and other Hispanics in other states who vote majority Democrat?

In FL (my home state!) many hispanics are Cubans, and hate anything Communist leaning. And also they feel that JFK and ergo democrats, betrayed them.

 

[lynx]

If most Hispanic people are pro life why are the majority voting for the Democrats?

What differs between the Hispanics in Florida who vote majority Republican and other Hispanics in other states who vote majority Democrat?

The Mexican immigrants (legal / illegal) around the border (places like CA, AZ, TX) want to see a path to citizenship so they can bring their family to the USA and escape the poverty of their current situation. I’ve met more than enough illegal immigrants who just wanted to see the rest of their family, because once you’re smuggled in you don’t want to go back. People trying to cross illegally have huge risks to their personal safety. I’m guessing the immediate familial concerns are taking precedence of their pro-life attitudes. I could be wrong though, maybe someone else around the border can give another perspective.

 

[Occidental]

Maybe. I’ll admit however, I just don’t like London.

 

[Abba]

If most Hispanic people are pro life why are the majority voting for the Democrats?

What differs between the Hispanics in Florida who vote majority Republican and other Hispanics in other states who vote majority Democrat?

The reason is that to some, the main consideration is not Pro-Life and has not been historically. In recent history, the Church has been more outspoken about pro-life and so the matter is on the table more and more. But, what has always been on the table is their political and economic interests which the Democratic Party has representated and has been more reponsive to or at least they have succeeded in portraying themselves as such. To say it clearly, the Republican Party has a reputation for being racist and promoting agendas that do not benefit the black and hispanic population and actually promotes things that hurts these populations.

Hope this helps,

Abba

 

[bbarrick8383]

To say it clearly, the Republican Party has a reputation for being racist

Like Al Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd? Oh wait…they were democrats. Care to name a few openly racist Republicans?

and promoting agendas that do not benefit the black and hispanic population and actually promotes things that hurts these populations.

Agendas that benefit all skin color equally is not racist.

Agendas that benefit some skin colors and not others is racist.

Democrats pander to skin color, Republicans do not.