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Historical Christianity is One, Holy, Catholic, & Apostolic Church
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DarkMark
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And the Catholic Church agree. If you have committed a Mortal Sin, you may not partake of Communion as you confess your sins. What is your point Rightlydivide?It does not let all who are baptized partake of the meal.
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Rightlydivide
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Rightlydivide;2934935:
Yes, it is the pillar of truth, I agree and then i showed the Bible teaches all that are saved are part of that church!Rightlydivide, you are continuing to ignore my posts. Paul said the Church is the pillar of truth. Second, you must explain “the earthly Church”. The Catholic Church is one, but the Protestants are all divided.
The Catholic Church is not one, it has a million different opinions and then of course they change over time as any traditionalist will tell you.
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Rightlydivide
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NO. You have to be an official member, in other words go through their however long class to become a member to do this…you know that.And the Catholic Church agree. If you have committed a Mortal Sin, you may not partake of Communion as you confess your sins. What is your point Rightlydivide?
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DarkMark
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DarkMark;2934942:
That has alreadly been explain here Rightlydivide. You need to go back and read it. Christ’s Church is one fold as Christ said. . .Yes, it is the pillar of truth, I agree and then i showed the Bible teaches all that are saved are part of that church!
The Catholic Church is not one, it has a million different opinions and then of course they change over time as any traditionalist will tell you.
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Rightlydivide
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Rightlydivide;2934935:
Not even close to what the verse is saying, not even close.If the Church taught error, it would cause death.
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victus
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The Church was One and Catholic when the Didache was written, therefore it is talking to all Catholic’s baptized. The Catholic Church is the Church of the Early Church.It does not let all who are baptized partake of the meal.
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DarkMark
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DarkMark;2934942:
Which church have all the truth and can trace their History backed to the Apostles? If the the Church is the pillar of truth, then it can not go under error. . . .Yes, it is the pillar of truth, I agree and then i showed the Bible teaches all that are saved are part of that church!
The Catholic Church is not one, it has a million different opinions and then of course they change over time as any traditionalist will tell you.
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Rightlydivide;2934953:
The Catholic church is not one fold, it failed. The true church is all believers, not an earthly organization that claims official unity and then changes its mind, Vatican 2, when people start to complain. Did eating meat on Friday used to be a mortal sin? Thats what they all said. Is it now? No. They change all the time.That has alreadly been explain here Rightlydivide. You need to go back and read it. Christ’s Church is one fold as Christ said. . .
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No it was not. In Corinthians and in Revelations there are grave warnings about doctrinal matters and churches that are erring.The Church was One and Catholic when the Didache was written, therefore it is talking to all Catholic’s baptized. The Catholic Church is the Church of the Early Church.
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DarkMark
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The Church is both invisible and visible. The Earthly Church is guided by Christ to all truth. This same Church gave what you now called the “Bible”. The Church is one. This was explained before . . . .The Catholic church is not one fold, it failed. The true church is all believers, not an earthly organization that claims official unity and then changes its mind, Vatican 2, when people start to complain. Did eating meat on Friday used to be a mortal sin? Thats what they all said. Is it now? No. They change all the time.
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Rightlydivide;2934953:
You have an incorrect presupposition. The church is all of those who are saved, I have never once said that all people were unsaved for 1500 years. Who is saved? The Bible clearly answers that and that includes many Catholics of course!Which church have all the truth and can trace their History backed to the Apostles? If the the Church is the pillar of truth, then it can not go under error. . . .
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victus
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If the Church was not one, then why would writings need to issued to these churches so that all would be in unity.No it was not. In Corinthians and in Revelations there are grave warnings about doctrinal matters and churches that are erring.
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DarkMark
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Rightlydivide;2934979:
, I have never once said that all people were unsaved for 1500 years. Who is saved? The Bible clearly answers that and that includes many Catholics of course!You have an incorrect presupposition. ** The church is all of those who are saved**
I agree, but the Church is also visible as well. If the Church is not visible, then you would not have a Bible my friend. You call the ECF heretics , so were they saved? Christ’s Church is one. The Catholic Church is the only Church that can trace their history backed to the Apostles. Paul kept warning His Children agaisnt errors; He did not want the Church to be divided. He send His letters to the different churches for this reason. The Church needed to be united and free from error, and its still is. Jesus prayed for unity in the Church (John 18:20-26).
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victus
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the Church is one, my friend, until Martin Luther came along and divided the West
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victus
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and the Catholic Church still is one
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clmowry
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Or more correctly you believe everything you understand the bible to say about God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost.I do not use that term, its not in the Bible. But I believe everything the Bible says about God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost.
A distinction with a huge difference.
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DarkMark
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Correct! He use private interpretation.Or more correctly you believe everything you understand the bible to say about God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost.
A distinction with a huge difference.
Chuck
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Mannyfit75
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Many Catholics have not read the documents of Second Vatican Council. Many of them are misinformed. The Second Vatican Council only affirm Catholic belief which was defined already by other Synods. The only thing that change was the liturgy which was made into the venacular language…The Catholic church is not one fold, it failed. The true church is all believers, not an earthly organization that claims official unity and then changes its mind, Vatican 2, when people start to complain. Did eating meat on Friday used to be a mortal sin? Thats what they all said. Is it now? No. They change all the time.
Eating meat on Friday is always a mortal sin if you meet the three conditions to make it mortal, 1. Serious Matter. 2. Full Knowledgement and Full Consent of the Will.
The only thing that has not change is the Deposit of Faith, which has been handed down to us by from Jesus Christ, down to his Apostles, and their successors the Bishops and Popes, and with the Guidance of the Holy Spirit, which leads us to all Truths.
The things that change are those which are discipline. Before Second Vatican Council, Mass was said in Latin. This is discipline and can change.
Doctrines and Dogmas cannot change because they are part of the deposit of faith.
Disciplines such such rites, Liturgy, candles, priestly celibacy, vestments, and music can change.
There seems to be a lack of knowledge you have about Catholicism by making generalization.
And no it has not failed. Protestantism has failed just look at the 33,000 different Protestant Denomination.
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Mannyfit75
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Catholics who commit mortal sin cannot received Holy Communion, and those not in union with the Catholic Church cannot partake also.NO. You have to be an official member, in other words go through their however long class to become a member to do this…you know that.
Catholics must go to Confession first to have their mortal sin absolved by the priest.
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