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Cruciferi
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Mexico is within their right to deny this unruly group entry. It’s their border and their sovereignty.
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Mark121359
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Build That Wall…Build That Wall…BUILD THAT WALL!!!
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ProVobis
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Where though?
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graciew
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Where are the men instead of using women and children at the frontline? This enrages wherever and whenever it happens and sometines it is done on purpose .
And if I am not mistaken ,they had been warned ,even if people start pushing,what are babies and children doing at the very front upon arrival?
Not approving gassing,not even confrontation,but neither exposing or using children. And it happens ,of course it happens.
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AlNg
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I am personally opposed to gassing children. First the Americans wreck their country making it impossible to live a decent life there and now that they want a better life they are being gassed.
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Cruciferi
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And just what do you propose for dealing with a violent Mob?
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AlNg
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I propose to let them enter peacefully as they are poor and suffering and their leaders have announced that they are willing to work. I don’t believe that gassing children is a decent thing to do. “People were bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.’ . . . And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them.”
Jesus did not advocate the gassing of children. There is a hymn written by Woolsten:
Jesus loves the little children
All the children of the world
Red and yellow
Black and white
They are precious in His sight.
Jesus loves the little children
Of the world.
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Nope. That’s basically permitting open borders and caving to marauding hordes. That’s unacceptable. You obviously have no realistic understanding of the situation and it’s consequences.
It’s not decent to hide behind children either, which is exactly what they’re doing. I support the use of Non-Lethal Crowd Control regardless.
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Has anyone thought about the money that has been provided to pull this off - right before an important election? Does it occur to anyone that the Democrat party that has obstructed every reasonable approach to pass sane immigration laws has a driven purpose to regain POWER! Many millions of dollars has been put up to pull this off. Scoffers can scoff but the name George Soros is at the top, also a Tom Stier - another $$ bag.
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graciew
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About 2,000 people have returned to Honduras and 500 more are on their way back.
What I read is that there are coordinated efforts for a safe trip back.
As far as I am reading,the countries along the way are working with documentation ,and trying to ensure order.
One of the organizers was jailed in Guatemala,allegedly for not having documentation.
What I read is that there are coordinated efforts for a safe trip back.
As far as I am reading,the countries along the way are working with documentation ,and trying to ensure order.
One of the organizers was jailed in Guatemala,allegedly for not having documentation.
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I believe it is you who have no understanding of the fact that the present crisis in Honduras was caused by the US support of the post coup government. You speak about borders. But borders don’t mean too much to the Americans who interfere and meddle with the economy of Central America. After the overthrow of Zelaya, Hillary Clinton admitted that she made sure that Zelaya would not return to power. The Honduran scholar Dana Frank wrote that the U.S.-backed post-coup government “rewarded coup loyalists with top ministries,” opening the door for further “violence and anarchy.” “a series of corrupt administrations has unleashed open criminal control of Honduras, from top to bottom of the government.”
“The homicide rate in Honduras, already the highest in the world, increased by 50 percent from 2008 to 2011; political repression, the murder of opposition political candidates, peasant organizers and LGBT activists increased and continue to this day. Femicides skyrocketed. The violence and insecurity were exacerbated by a generalized institutional collapse. Drug-related violence has worsened amid allegations of rampant corruption in Honduras’ police and government. While the gangs are responsible for much of the violence, Honduran security forces have engaged in a wave of killings and other human rights crimes with impunity. “
Children and their parents are fleeing from the horrors in Honduras which the US policy has helped to create. Why is it ethical for the US to refuse to accept responsibility for the mess they helped create?
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graciew
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It is the most dangerous country or top most.
I read also there is a death every 90’ and 90℅ of the crimes go unpunished. Must be more than tough to live there.
I read also there is a death every 90’ and 90℅ of the crimes go unpunished. Must be more than tough to live there.
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Victoria33
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I remember the story of Miss Honduras and her sister getting killed down there. They have problems like some of the other nations with a lot of drug smuggling and all down there. Like Mexico has, like Colombia use to have. Colombia still has it but it seems to be much lesser now. Kidnappings, I’m sorry these problems have gone on and gone on for so long. Yes, unfortunately, I’d concur the US has done it’s fair share in creating this harm. I don’t know that much about that with Honduras about 9 years ago I remember it vaguely happening.
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Cruciferi
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Sounds like a matter for the UN. They should address and deal with “Failed States”.
Now, they’re running into the arms of the supposed architect of their countries demise? Strange logic…
Apparently, Mexico doesn’t want to deal with them either as they are ones committing the “atrocities” that you originally bellyached about.
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AlNg
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US has pressured Mexico to act unethically.
" local governments began preparing to disperse the convoy under pressure from Washington."
The Americans contributed to the problem. It is up to the Americans to be fair to the children who want to be able to live their lives in safety and in peace. Jesus loves all the children of the world and wants them to have a decent life.
Why don’t the Americans respect the borders of the Central American countries and stop meddling in their internal affairs? I don’t see where you have addressed this question.
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greenrangerx
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Correction: the administration of Barack Obama contributed to the problem. His administration no longer exists due to term limits, and his party is no longer in power.
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Cruciferi
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It’s about time we pressured Mexico to do something.
If their parents want to legally immigrate, sure thing. Otherwise, nope they’re gonna have to go somewhere else
You can’t blame all the failures of South America on the US. There have been quite a few other countries involved. Finally, failed states, to some degree, have to take responsibility for their own shortcomings.
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angel12
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Is there any proof of this?
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petra22
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I heard someone said Donald Trump paid for them…
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angel12
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Actually, that would make more sense than the Democrats paying for them. It gives him a ready-made campaign issue for the mid-terms.
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