As for the paternity, fair enough. Sexually, I am not sure. One woman could keep multiple men happy.
Fair enough. It is common that a woman in SA needs her male relative’s permission to travel to Mecca, for example, right?
So her money is her money and he, and the family, are not entitled to it? Even in a divorce?
I am going to have to throw a flag on this one. According to all of the Human rights groups, Muslim nations are the largest contributers to the slave trade that exists. WOmen and Children are enslaved in Muslim Africa daily. Even the UN says that. They are not the driving force behind white slavery (sex trade slavery), which is more dominated by Russia
.salute for islam.:bowdown2: 
I still want to know the Truth, about Islam as well as other things.
I think that you have not done your homework as to what islam does, doesn’t do and sanctions. It certainly does enslave women and children.
Oh, it is part of islam’s teaching and mohammed himself told his fellow muslims who were afraid to ejaculate into them for fear of impregnating them told them not to waste their sperm and basically told them to impregnant them.
Some may think from my posts that I hate Islam. I hate most of what I believe to be true about Islam, I may be wrong. Please rationally prove this if so.denials, denials ehehehe.
you need a wakeup call: you should migrate to the middle east.
Are you saying that a man’s natural desire to have multiple sex partners is a sign of disrespect for the dignity of women? Because that is all i’m trying to tell you.
so says all religion.
i think you are making that one up. right?
HARHAHARHARHAR! LOL!
Believe it or not, in my marriage, i am the sex object and my wife is the success object. funny how that works out ehehehe!
and i dont mind it at all!
hey my wife is drop-dead gorgeous. its just that she is a lot more interested in sex than i am.
You need to slow your roll there chief. All Muslims?
We are all guilty of not heeding our own council.
pssst - this is what a ‘prophet’ of a ‘religion’ told his followers - his ‘honored’ followers - to do, besides all the other dispicable things.
Without a proper, valid authority, this is the best you are going to get. Flapping in the breeze, having to form your own conclusions, then have people get upset at you and either being unwilling or unable to explain how you have ‘wronged’ them.You might be right - they are more like 1/4 that of a man since a man can have 4 wives and a woman only one.
Even Aisha, Muhammad’s beloved child bride, once complained to him: “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women” (Bukhari 7.72.715).
From Aayan Hirsi Ali, “Muslim religion is many things but it’s certainly not friendly to women,” she said at the European Parliament, warning the West that it "shouldn’t indulge in and buy fallacies from Muslims.
Hirsi Ali said violence is the most important obstacle to liberating women and must be eradicated through policies such as positive discrimination and education campaigns.
She also warned domestic violence is on the rise in Europe and proposed setting up a European court and an attorney general to deal with domestic violence cases.
(and while sister amy keeps defending the indefensible - she offers nothing to help other women who suffer under islam in countries under sharia law - where she stated that she wants to move to), Hirsi Ali has this to say:
“Women conceive and give birth to sons, but they don’t commit them to the noble cause of defending gender equality,” she told a seminar on combating violence against women. “The problem is the inability of women to draw up a plan on how to help women.”
some things from the koran:
Muhammad refers to it in a hadith that suggests that while men and women may have the same “innate character,” that doesn’t mean they are equal in dignity, for women are…crooked: “Woman has been created from a rib and will in no way be straightened for you; so if you wish to benefit by her, benefit by her while crookedness remains in her. And if you attempt to straighten her, you will break her, and breaking her is divorcing her.”
Ibn Kathir says this the requirement to deal justly with one’s wives is no big deal, since treating them justly isn’t the same as treating them equally: “it is not obligatory to treat them equally, rather it is recommended. So if one does so, that is good, and if not, there is no harm on him.”
Verses 15-16 lay down penalties for sexual immorality. V. 15 prescribes home imprisonment until death (unless “Allah ordain for them some (other) way”) for women found guilty of “lewdness” on the testimony of four witnesses. According to Islamic law, these four witnesses must be male Muslims; women’s testimony is inadmissible in cases of a sexual nature, even in rape cases in which she is the victim. If a woman is found guilty of adultery, she is to be stoned to death; if she is found guilty of fornication, she gets 100 lashes (cf. Qur’an 24:2). The penalty of stoning does not appear in the Qur’an, but Umar, one of Muhammad’s early companions and the second caliph, or successor of Muhammad as leader of the Muslims, said that it was nevertheless the will of Allah: “I am afraid,” he said, “that after a long time has passed, people may say, ‘We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,’ and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed.” Umar affirmed: “Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” And he added that Muhammad “carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.”
I could go on, but it is just more of the same - denials from muslim women and the facts of what is true.
Go read the koran and hadiths yourself. I have posted many references to show how islam is not good for women. The only way for you to answer your question if you are not reading those posts, along with examples of what mohammed did and sanctioned, is to read it for yourself.
Quote:Shows what you know. They WANT teachers to teach in English!!
Glad you think so.
No they’re not. Only forced to partially support them.
Well I said accusing chaste women and you asked for that hadith. So that’s the hadith I gave you. You should’ve said you wanted the hadith about a deformity for marital injustice.
Here it is: It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever has two wives and leans towards (i.e. favours) one of them (over the "other), will come on the Day of Resurrection with half of his body leaning.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2/242; al-Tirmidhi, 3/447; al-Nasaa’i, 7/64; Ibn Maajah, 1/633; classed as saheeh by al-Haafiz in Buloogh al-Maraam, 3/310, and al-Albaani in Irwaa’ al-Ghaleel, 7/80).
Also “Ibn Qudaamah al-Maqdisi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: We know of no dispute among the scholars concerning the fact that it is obligatory to treat co-wives equally when sharing one’s time between them. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “and live with them honourably” [al-Nisaa’ 4:19], but favouring one of them is not honourable.”
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/13740
I’m tracking. Already done. Years ago.
Says who?
Oh come on - I have posted so much proof that you can go back and look for yourself. Proof that islam does not honor women. Proof that islam is not a religion of peace. Proof that islam is a political movement (that could be on different threads - but all you have to do is crack open a koran, and hadiths, for yourself.
Nope - I have no idea what you are getting at. Unless you are trying to make some moral equivalent between them both. One big difference is that the events that talk about slavery and stoning were never told to us to practice and we do not. Christ stopped a stoning, and mohammed and his followers sanction them.
No, I don’t think this at all. Look, even though I do not believe there is any comparison in reality, I am willing (less and less) to make allowances that someone may have to be very well versed in this subject to avoid confusion, provide context i.e. a true professional.
You are very bright - never think otherwise. Anyway, the thing with having to know Arab is just a way to deflect that muslims themselves have translated the koran into different languages. It is also a way to deflect to the fact that many of their own don’t know the koran and what mohammed is all about because most muslims themselves don’t know Arabic.
