Interesting way of reflecting your location.Its my location, not religion
I was looking for a Catholic territory that reflects my true location, regardless of the sui juris of the Church. While I live within the confines of the Archdiocese of Vancouver, I donât really live in Vancouver.
I know its a wide territorty, but I used it for the fact that âNew Westminsterâ is part of the name. I have that irk that some people have when you have to name a famous city to let non-locals know where you live, even though you donât actually live in that city. I guess we all canât live in New York where Brooklyn or Bronx or Queens would be known to most other people.Interesting way of reflecting your location.
Eparchy of New Westminster Comprised of British Columbia, Yukon Territory, and the Northwest Territories west of the 120th to the 141st longitude.
Hey, I was a physician before becoming a friar, but trust me, you donât want to attempt to meausre growth in holiness. Itâs not exacty like counting white blood cells or T-cells. Can you imagine if it were.I donât know about that. Youâre talking to someone who spent years in chemical and biochemical laboratories collecting and interpreting data. It might be fun to try to measure this holiness and growth sometime.
Hey, I was a physician before becoming a friar, but trust me, you donât want to attempt to meausre growth in holiness. Itâs not exacty like counting white blood cells or T-cells. Can you imagine if it were.
I always tell people these are the best ways to measure their spiritual growth (itâs not an exact science, but it helps):
*]increase in charity
*]increase in prayer
*]decrease in sin
*]increase in peace (peace of conscience, even if everything else is a mess)
*]confidence in God
*]decrease in attachments
*]ability to focus on what God puts before you (itâs very easy to focus on everything else to avoid the present moment)
*]less worrying about what God is doing and more concern for what you should be doing
*]love for the Church
*]frequency of confession
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF
But again, the Church never had one language. Latin is confined in the West. The East never had one language but we can say Greek would be their primary (or majority).
Amen to that.
I grew up with Latin Masses, I had Latin in High School. But I prefer my Mass in English. I think in English and I pray in English. I want to know what is being said and what my replies are. You can still do a High Mass and chanting all in English. I feel more part of the Mass when I know what is going on. In Latin, I feel like Iâm just going through the motions and always one step behind.
Then perhaps out of the Vatican II documents,
and
were both misinterpreted/mistranslated?
Latin is the official language of the ChurchâŚbut the Church does not say that ALL Masses must be in LatinâŚand thatâs a FACT.
Just remember that vernaculars are the exceptionâŚnot the norm.
Did I say ALL Masses must be in Latin?
Pro vobis et pro multis. (I felt the âpro vobisâ part was ignored, fwiw.)
Indeed. From my recollection, in the early 60âs we had anticipated some changes to the Mass. But I donât think in anyoneâs wildest dreams anyone anticipated extended vernacular in the Mass, much less an all-vernacular all-the-time (read, complete suppression of Latin) Mass at that time. Mass facing people, maybe; mass said aloud, perhaps. But all-vernacular, hardly. The progressives fully took over; they found a loophole and ran full-speed with it despite John XXIIIâs encyclical and Paul VIâs attempts to preserve some Latin.
What is the title of this thread? Why is it hostility if you donât want your Mass said in Latin?I see the hostility as coming from the folks who donât particularly want any Mass said in Latin. Especially those folks who do their best to see that Latin Masses do not happen. Unfortunately these folks include clergy and especially powerful folks who make a great deal of money from selling the music promoted for use in vernacular Masses.
