House Democrat files article of impeachment against Trump

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M-Dent said:
It means I find groupthink objectionable.
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Yes, it may seem like there is a lot of groupthink here, but it’s really just people regurgitating the talking points from Hannity, Rush and Fox News.
 
Jig_Saw said:
Yes, it may seem like there is a lot of groupthink here, but it’s really just people regurgitating the talking points from Hannity, Rush and Fox News.
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I wouldn’t deny there’s some Hannity regurgitating happening but the same is happening with the Rachel Maddow cult members who burp her foul stench. More frequently.
 
M-Dent said:
I wouldn’t deny there’s some Hannity regurgitating happening but the same is happening with the Rachel Maddow cult members who burp her foul stench. More frequently.
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I suppose I would have to watch her to know if that is true.
 
M-Dent said:
Right. I suppose your time is filled watching Hannity, Fox news and listening to Rush… 😃
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Actually, no. I don’t watch cable news at all. I listened to Hannity on the radio a few times and quickly realized that the same points he made are made here. I also noticed that if some sort of bizarre talking point came up, it usually started on Fox News.

I draw my own conclusions from the news instead of depending on others to draw them for me.
 
Jig_Saw said:
Actually, no. I don’t watch cable news at all. I listened to Hannity on the radio a few times and quickly realized that the same points he made are made here. I also noticed that if some sort of bizarre talking point came up, it usually started on Fox News.

I draw my own conclusions from the news instead of depending on others to draw them for me.
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For everyday news, I read and listen to ABC, CBS, NBC, WSJ, NYT, Boston Globe, Boston Herald, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, BBC, NPR and local papers to get a gauge what the specific outlets are espousing. The beauty of the internet is I have all these news outlets at a mouse click. From there I draw conclusions of what little facts are shared and what really is important. If a story seems important I’ll search for primary sources.
 
Sy_Noe said:
I still don’t see what it is about DJT that the CAF Trump faithful defend him so and why they would rather have DJT than Pence. What is so special about DJT on issues they so deeply care about, abortion, SSM… that they wouldn’t get with Pence?
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Personally, I like Mike Pence better than Trump.

But, I don’t want the President (no matter what party) impeached without proof of a high crime or misdemeanor. Articles of Impeachment should not be filed unless an investigator (DOJ or independent one) reports that there were crimes.

To date, this has not happened.

We can’t have congress impeaching Presidents they don’t like.
 
phil19034 said:
Personally, I like Mike Pence better than Trump.

But, I don’t want the President (no matter what party) impeached without proof of a high crime or misdemeanor. Articles of Impeachment should not be filed u less an investigator (DOJ or independent one) reports that there were crimes.

To date, this has not happened.

We can’t have congress impeaching Presidents they don’t like.
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That is true.
 
M-Dent said:
For everyday news, I read and listen to ABC, CBS, NBC, WSJ, NYT, Boston Globe, Boston Herald, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, BBC, NPR and local papers to get a gauge what the specific outlets are espousing. The beauty of the internet is I have all these news outlets at a mouse click. From there I draw conclusions of what little facts are shared and what really is important. If a story seems important I’ll search for primary sources.
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I agree that it is important to read primary sources. For example, it is important to read Donald Trump, Jr.'s emails and not depend on the interpretation of them from those that spin.

But I do not have much use for cable news. The news/spin ratio is far too low and most of the hosts are mental lightweights that look pretty on camera. That’s why I think it is actually important to avoid these sources so that you can follow your own gut on what is happening and what really hits as opposed to being told over and over on a cable news program what is important.
 
Jig_Saw said:
I agree that it is important to read primary sources.
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Yes. For many news stories it is vital to seek out primary sources and read relatively unfiltered accounts of events. The same with scientific reports, as much as we can read competently. (Though we may need to request the opinion of some more educated in specific fields)
Jig_Saw said:
For example, it is important to read Donald Trump, Jr.'s emails and not depend on the interpretation of them from those that spin.
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I found the raw data available something to seriously question the prudence of Donald Trump, Jr.
Jig_Saw said:
But I do not have much use for cable news. The news/spin ratio is far too low and most of the hosts are mental lightweights that look pretty on camera. That’s why I think it is actually important to avoid these sources so that you can follow your own gut on what is happening and what really hits as opposed to being told over and over on a cable news program what is important.
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Frankly, I despise all cable news. I think it has partially dumbed-down America. A quick outlet to sell an opinion. Too many have failed to research topics they “heard” on cable news and accept it as fact. We accept the print media is sloppy but we can research that more quickly with data at our fingertips.
 
M-Dent said:
Frankly, I despise all cable news. I think it has partially dumbed-down America. A quick outlet to sell an opinion. Too many have failed to research topics they “heard” on cable news and accept it as fact.
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Yes, getting rid of cable news would be a blessing. It will probably happen as more and more people cut the cords on cable, but then you know they’ll get their news from even more biased sources and you’ll have people on this site posting the most whacked out conspiracy theories.
 
Jig_Saw said:
Yes, getting rid of cable news would be a blessing. It will probably happen as more and more people cut the cords on cable, but then you know they’ll get their news from even more biased sources and you’ll have people on this site posting the most whacked out conspiracy theories.
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To a certain extent being biased is human. I can accept that. I expect certain outlets to have a biased outlook. The NYT isn’t a conservative think tank and the WSJ hasn’t been a liberal bastion - but they are still both valuable news outlets. They are what they are. Less opinion overall than cable news, IMO.
 
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