House GOP scraps vote on Sandy aid

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I’m seeing Virginia, MA, PA and “none” listed as locations on this thread, I’m curious: Are there any other New Yorkers here? We’re not a bunch of New Orleanites who go looting and shooting every time the wind blows hard. It’s already been months, and we don’t really expect to see the money go to the city, just to pork projects that don’t need them. So time really doesn’t matter. If we can’t get our insurance to pay up (all state has been reported for giving a condemned home $168.28 to rebuild for a fully insured house), we certainly don’t expect the feds to pay for it.

We’re New Yorkers. We’re strong. We can make it without the Fed.
With all due respect, many, many New Orleanders that I know personally would blanch at that statement of yours…with all due respect.

New Yorkers do not “loot and shoot?” Have you ever read up on the history of dear New Yorker’s actions during blackouts thirty years ago?

Thanks for the stereotypical comment, there, buddy. Way to go.
 
Not reading all the posts but the Congress will take up Sandy again and strip out the pork the Senate sent over.
HOPEFULLY. :)😛

Just saw dear old Christie on Tv. The man was angrier than heck. Can’t say I totally blame in THIS CONTEXT, though.

Otherwise, I can guarantee that this and the bear hug he gave Obama after Sandy will guarantee he will NEVER be considered for nomination for President by fellow Republicans EVER again.

Yep.

The party’s done with him.🤷🤷
 
I just listened to Christie’s tirade against Boener. I am beginning to kind of like this guy.
 
James Madison isnt a constitutional expert?
Not at all. A very valuable framer? Yes. Heck, he’s the father of the Constitution! But to take his quotes and apply them to today’s world without considering, oh 200 years worth of changes to the constitution, thousands of Supreme Court and other federal court decisions, historical context, the political struggles of the time, and the compromises that Madison made isn’t conducive to a discussion about the role of the federal government in hurricane Sandy relief.

I really, really hate when people take quotes from the framers as gospel. They had as many disagreements back then as we do today. Very deep political and philosophical differences. And like today they strived to do what was best for their political careers, and made compromises that they really didn’t want to make.

Taking a quote from one and passing it off as “the truth” would be like someone 200 years from now looking at a Pelosi quote and coming to the conclusion that that’s how everyone felt about everything these days.

And lots not forget, just because he felt that was doesn’t mean that’s the basis for our nation. That quote is not in the constitution and not binding.
 
I just listened to Christie’s tirade against Boener. I am beginning to kind of like this guy.
I don’t agree with him on most things, but I have the utmost respect for his willingness to break with his party to do what he thinks is best for his state. I don’t always agree with him, in fact I rarely do, but he’s a good man and a responsible governor.
 
Not at all. A very valuable framer? Yes. Heck, he’s the father of the Constitution! But to take his quotes and apply them to today’s world without considering, oh 200 years worth of changes to the constitution, thousands of Supreme Court and other federal court decisions, historical context, the political struggles of the time, and the compromises that Madison made isn’t conducive to a discussion about the role of the federal government in hurricane Sandy relief.

I really, really hate when people take quotes from the framers as gospel. They had as many disagreements back then as we do today. Very deep political and philosophical differences. And like today they strived to do what was best for their political careers, and made compromises that they really didn’t want to make.

Taking a quote from one and passing it off as “the truth” would be like someone 200 years from now looking at a Pelosi quote and coming to the conclusion that that’s how everyone felt about everything these days.

And lots not forget, just because he felt that was doesn’t mean that’s the basis for our nation. That quote is not in the constitution and not binding.
You’re probably right but I hope the words of the founders of the Constitution are at least a little better to quote than those of Nancy Pelosi! (And I’m a Democrat.)
 
HOPEFULLY. :)😛

Just saw dear old Christie on Tv. The man was angrier than heck. Can’t say I totally blame in THIS CONTEXT, though.

Otherwise, I can guarantee that this and the bear hug he gave Obama after Sandy will guarantee he will NEVER be considered for nomination for President by fellow Republicans EVER again.

Yep.

The party’s done with him.🤷🤷
They would do well to choose Chris Christie as their nominee but are no doubt too ideologically opposed to consider it.
 
Not reading all the posts but the Congress will take up Sandy again and strip out the pork the Senate sent over.
You think so? Apparently the pork wasn’t stripped out of the fiscal cliff bill, but there’s always hope…

With that perspective, it sounds to me more like there wasn’t the right kind of pork in the Sandy bill - not that politicians have developed any real inclination toward vegetarianism!
 
You think so? Apparently the pork wasn’t stripped out of the fiscal cliff bill, but there’s always hope…

With that perspective, it sounds to me more like there wasn’t the right kind of pork in the Sandy bill - not that politicians have developed any real inclination toward vegetarianism!
The good ol’ USA is the most broke of all countries in the world when get a little more broken they will learn to be vegan.
 
Otherwise, I can guarantee that this and the bear hug he gave Obama after Sandy will guarantee he will NEVER be considered for nomination for President by fellow Republicans EVER again.
Doesn’t matter. Christie’s more of a realist and will be supported by both parties. His 70% approval rate isn’t a fluke.
 
The good ol’ USA is the most broke of all countries in the world …
Isn’t that why Nixon took the US off the gold standard? We simply didn’t have enough gold (at $35 an ounce) to pay our bills, so we’re sort of “winging it” and hope they trust our inflated paper.
 
Doesn’t matter. Christie’s more of a realist and will be supported by both parties. His 70% approval rate isn’t a fluke.
He would most definitely have a chance as an independent - it’s high time the centrists of this country organized and used their clout, IMO. I’d vote for him as an independent candidate.
 
He would most definitely have a chance as an independent - it’s high time the centrists of this country organized and used their clout, IMO. I’d vote for him as an independent candidate.
Until he ran against a democrat and the media excoriated him as a bigot, child molester, a closet Nazi and for being fat.
 
Until he ran against a democrat and the media excoriated him as a bigot, child molester, a closet Nazi and for being fat.
The media??? Are you serious? Did you follow the recent Republican primaries and listen to the CANDIDATES excoriate each other? Is the media to blame for putting mics and cameras in front of them?
 
The media??? Are you serious? Did you follow the recent Republican primaries and listen to the CANDIDATES excoriate each other? Is the media to blame for putting mics and cameras in front of them?
Yes.
 
The media??? Are you serious? Did you follow the recent Republican primaries and listen to the CANDIDATES excoriate each other? Is the media to blame for putting mics and cameras in front of them?
Amen…the media has become a convenient excuse for the GOP’s lack of success on the national level. If that is the case, then how have they managed to claim so many state houses and governorships? How’d they get the house? How did Bush get elected twice?
 
Amen…the media has become a convenient excuse for the GOP’s lack of success on the national level. If that is the case, then how have they managed to claim so many state houses and governorships? How’d they get the house? How did Bush get elected twice?
Er, I don’t know about anyone else, but in the Bush days I consumed Fox News almost exclusively…😉
 
I’m actually pretty shocked at how dismissive people are of James Madison.

The constitution is truly dead.
 
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