How allowing evil could lead to greater good?

[goout]

That’s not my proposal to you.
Here is my proposal:
The actions you chose have consequences.
Do you accept that your actions have consequences, or do you deny that actions have consequences?

For example: you decide to cheat on your wife, and as a consequence of your action your relationship with your wife is irrevocably ruptured.

And the next question will be this:
Since you admit that actions have consequences, do you bear any responsibility for those consequences?
(because to look at consequences of our actions and say “sorry I didn’t intend to make a mess, it’s not really my responsibility…” is what irresponsible people do, not fully functioning adults". That’s an abuse of freedom.)

 

[STT]

Do you accept that your actions have consequences, or do you deny that actions have consequences?

Yes, actions have consequences.

For example: you decide to cheat on your wife, and as a consequence of your action your relationship with your wife is irrevocably ruptured.

Yes, the relationship is ruptured if she finds out. People cheat because they like their relationship but they cannot handle their sexual desire. Is it possible to have a healthy relationship without cheating? Yes. You can be honest with your wife and tell her about your sexual need.

And the next question will be this:
Since you admit that actions have consequences, do you bear any responsibility for those consequences?

Responsibility for what? Responsibility for a situation that I cannot handle? How I could be responsible if I am overwhelmed by my sexual needs?

 

[goout]

I wish I could help you.
13 year olds with this attitude get disciplined by their parents.
20 somethings are recommended to join the military and are quickly disabused of their notions of entitled needs.
30 somethings are probably going to jail at some point if they are overwhelmed by sexual needs to the abandonment of responsibility.
Middle aged people are in a sad state if they have capitulated to “sexual needs”.

I really don’t know what else to say.

 

[Gorgias]

Responsibility for a situation that I cannot handle? How I could be responsible if I am overwhelmed by my sexual needs?

Responsibility for acting as if your sexual needs are uncontrollable and trump all other considerations. @goout hit the nail on the head: teenagers tend to get a pass in this context, since they haven’t developed the self-control that is expected of adults. If, on the other hand, an adult does something that says “I couldn’t control myself”, they are nevertheless held responsible for the consequences of their actions (unless they’re found to be experiencing mental incapacity).

 

[TheLittleLady]

People cheat because they like their relationship but they cannot handle their sexual desire.

People cheat on their spouse for a thousand reasons.

You can be honest with your wife and tell her about your sexual need.

Are you married? After the first few weeks of marriage, spouses know each other’s “sexual needs”

How I could be responsible if I am overwhelmed by my sexual needs?

Grown ups control their sexual urges.

Do you just go in the store and start stuffing your face because you cannot control your hunger urges?