I strongly disagree. As Christians, we are supposed to be prepared to tell others of our joy in the Lord, and there is no better way then to discuss it so problems get fixed. Trust me, satan does NOT want Catholics caring about their faith, he has done an awful lot to make Catholics lukewarm.
Agreed. I am graciously withdrawing from this pointless debate.Meanwhile, the Satan led Protestants are watching us bicker among ourselves… Good job Guys!Satan is proud of you!
True enough.
I never said it was a game and it shouldn’t be taken lightly. Afterall, think of how many people are reading this wondering who’s right and who’s wrong.
Friend, whether or not Mary was sinfree has everything to do with the topic at hand. If I did not think so, I would not have been discussing it here. Me thinks you protest in a very revealing manner. So do as you must.
Exactly, it is very important and without a doubt our debate goes to the heart of “all have sinned” of the OP. Many people claim that all have sinned including Mary, so it is without questions important to speak about why the Church teaches Mary never sinned.I never said it was a game and it shouldn’t be taken lightly. Afterall, think of how many people are reading this wondering who’s right and who’s wrong.
I did option B as soon as I posted. I anticipated your answer.
As I did yours.
C’mon. That was uncalled for as well as being untrue.
Apology given.
Ok, apology accepted.
Thank you.Ok, apology accepted.
I see.
Thank you.
Please understand that the doctrine of Mary’s sinlessness does not rise or fall on what the bible says. The bible supports the doctrine but does not define the doctrine. This is just a case of the fact that the deposit of faith is larger than the bible.I said I believe it’s possible. Whether or not Mary sinned is insignificant. It’s not taught specifically in the Bible or anywhere else for that matter. All it says is that she was “full of grace”, and Catholics believe that the greek translation of that means she was sinless.
Me, personally, I’m not sure if she was or wasn’t. *It is just that simple. *
Not my reasoning but the reasoning of this person:
“Full of Grace” is not a “Catholic interpretation.” It is simply the interpretation from the Greek to the Latin which is Gratia Plena which means Full of Grace. Plena is the feminine of pleno which means full. That’s also in Spanish. The Latin interpretation is as close as we can get to any interpretation there is of Kécharitôménê. But it still leaves something to be desired. It is even more than just “Full of Grace” because it actually means "one who has been made full of grace" or "one who has been fully graced" or "one who has been perfected in grace." It is a past action that was given to Mary by God. It is also presently true as it is a present action which still continues to this day. Mary was conceived without any stain of sin whatsoever. Sin and Grace cannot live together in a soul. Mary was so full of grace it was to the point of overflowing. If one is so full of grace how can anything else fit especially sin? Nothing else can fit in a soul that is already so full of Grace.
See above.
Why are you so afraid to exalt Mary. God exalted Mary! So why can’t you?!! If you read scripture like you say you do then you would know that God exalts Mary. Mary’s Exaltation by God is Scriptural.
Do you even know what Divine Revelation is? Divine Revelation is not only words written down in a book. Divine Revelation was revealed to us in a Trinitarian way.
NO!! How could any Catholic believe this?!!
That is just ridiculous. Read above.
WRONG!!!
Never said that. Maybe you should read the ENTIRE discussion before randomly posting.
Well you’re rather rude!