How can Catholics vote for Joe Biden

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Most of the following will occur if Joe Biden/Kamala Harris become President:
  • making Middle America irrelevant in Presidential Elections, as the Electoral College is eliminated. Campaigning and policy-setting would then mostly occur for NY, LA, Chicago, and other big cities.
Please explain, as I asked you to the last time you posted this list, how the election of a particular president is going to eliminate the electoral college when the president has no role in the elimination of it?
 
Joe Biden:
  • wants 8-year-olds to be permitted to make life-changing sex-change decisions
  • Biden announced that he will pass the Equality Act in his first 100 days, which would force schools to permit boys in girls sports and in girls bathrooms
  • Joe Biden officiated a gay wedding in 2016
  • Joe Biden said “Transgender issues are the most important civil rights issue of our time”
  • Joe Biden wants both open borders and free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Clearly, American taxpayers can’t afford to pay for the entire world’s healthcare
  • defended the Chinese communist government in light of its heinous human-rights abuses directly contradicts the principle of human dignity that is the heart of Catholic teaching.
    These abuses by the Chinese regime are well known and include forced abortion, the genocide of the Uighur population, and the use of slave labor in manufacturing, just to name a few of the most egregious.
  • in 1991 led the effort granting China “most favored” nation status
  • Announced will reinstate transgenders in military
  • wants public option (taxpayer funded healthcare would drive private insurance out of business)
  • wants Islamic faith taught in public schools, but Christians and Jews can’t teach their faith in public school
  • said he will freeze social security, which would reduce the value of your social security checks
 
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with the support of Congress. By creating new states (2 new Senators for each state) and packing the courts with rubber-stamp leftists, he’d be well on his way.
 
False.

Joe Biden is not in favor of expanding the court. He stated the he is not a fan of court packing.
When did he say that? I heard him say voters don’t have the right to know what he will do. And “not being a fan” does not preclude him from actually doing it.
People have very legitimate issues with Trump and others in the Republican party that have nothing to do with “feelings” and cannot be summarily dismisses with “regardless”.
Again with all the politics aside how can a Catholic vote for an administration that favors and vehemently supports and works for abortion? He and Harris are not just pro choice. They can and probably will pack the court, codify Roe vs Wade, force others to pay for abortions, and who knows what else.
Being against Trump and for Biden are not the same thing.
How is that relevant? If as a Catholic you can not vote for one who supports baby murder and you wont vote for President Trump write in your dad’s name.
 
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with the support of Congress.
…which has nothing to do with the president. The ball is entirely in congress’s court when it comes to constitutional amendments. The president has nothing to do with it. So please explain how Biden being elected would result in the removal of the electoral college when the process to remove it has nothing to do with the president.
By creating new states (2 new Senators for each state)
The process of creating a new state is entirely within the purview of congress. Like the process of constitutional amendments, the president has nothing to do with it. If congress wants to make new states, it will do it with or without Biden. Furthermore, how does creating new states eliminate the electoral college?
and packing the courts with rubber-stamp leftists, he’d be well on his way.
The constitutional amendment process does not involve the courts; it is entirely something done by legislatures.

So, again, I ask you: Given that the president has no role in the elimination of the electoral college, how would the election of Biden result in its elimination?
 
write in your dad’s name
I agree strongly with almost everything you’re saying. Well done. However, with President Trump being perhaps the most pro-life and religious-liberty-friendly President in American history, I would think that almost every faithful Catholic would vote for Trump.

(By the way, Election Day is just 8 days away, so don’t sweat the complaints. The future of Catholicism in America could be at stake.)
 
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don’t see how a Catholic could vote for Donald Trump or Joe Biden, quite honestly. The only person in this election I feel I can in good conscience support is Brian Carroll of the American Solidarity Party.
Okay do that. Votes for President Trump are needed to defeat Biden, but at least you are not supporting a baby killer.
How has he made it clear? He’s repeatedly refused to weigh in on the subject. How is that “making it clear”?
Really. He knows that he will turn off anyone who is not a far leftist if he admits to having plans to pack the court. He arrogantly says you as a voter do not have the right to know what he will do. How condesening!
 
However, with President Trump being perhaps the most pro-life and religious-liberty-friendly President in American history, I would think that almost every faithful Catholic would vote for Trump.
Of course your right, but this President is so despised by these leftist they will never do it.
 
I legitimately can’t believe that we’re having Version 6,856,358,134 of the exact same thread.

Have we gone collectively insane?
If you don’t want to read or post to this thread don 't. However election day is coming soon. I think even the most liberal Catholic needs to weigh any anti Trump issues against voting for someone who is willing to assist and fight for someone who is engaging in pure evil.
 
According to Rasmussen, 59% of registered voters do not believe that Joe Biden will finish a four-year term. Therefore, a vote for Joe Biden could also be a vote for the Vice President that he selected (Biden could have chosen anyone).

Kamala Harris:
  • is so extreme on abortion she even voted against the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act: legislation to protect unborn children from abortion after 20 weeks, when they are capable of feeling excruciating pain
  • voted against Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act (Feb. 2020), which would have required that a baby born alive during an abortion must be given the same degree of medical care as other babies born.
  • instead of prosecuting Planned Parenthood in 2016, as Attorney General of California, Harris was behind the raid of David Daleiden’s apartment, when authorities took a laptop and several hard drives that contained the videos he filmed as part of his expose of Planned Parenthood.
  • Kamala Harris’ 100% pro-abortion rating from NARAL and 0% pro-life rating from the National Right To Life Committee
  • Harris co-sponsored the Green New Deal, which has been estimated to cost $37,000-to-$60,000 per household each year. Needless to say, a lot more unemployment and poverty would result.
  • Harris co-sponsored the Equality Act, which would force girls to compete against boys in sports and would force girls to share locker rooms and bathrooms with boys
 
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Nope.

You cannot say “all this aside” or “regardless”.

You do not dictate the scope of voting
Sure I can. I just did. It is YOU who has no right to downplay or even ignore the evil of abortion. Having a personal issue about President Trump is silly in comparison to what Biden and Harris stand for.
 
According to Rasmussen, 59% of registered voters do not believe that Joe Biden will finish a four-year term
Yeah the man is 77. He could become ill or even did and our President could be the most liberal member of congress. VERY SCARY.
 
If you don’t want to read or post to this thread don 't. However election day is coming soon.
I’d love to avoid these threads but they’re taking over the forum. Can’t we just have one “Biden and Catholicism” thread where people can repeat the same arguments that we’ve been over a million times already, instead of having five hundred of the exact same thread?
 
However, with President Trump being perhaps the most pro-life and religious-liberty-friendly President in American history
That’s hilarious.

Trump described himself as “very pro-choice” and said “I believe in choice.” (NBC News, October 24, 1999)

“I’m totally pro-choice" (Fox News, 12/1/1999

Abortion should be “removed from politics. I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors.” (Ibid)

“Look, Planned Parenthood has done very good work for many, many – for millions of women,” Trump said in a news conference Tuesday night. “And I’ll say it, and I know a lot of the so-called conservatives, they say that’s really … cause I’m a conservative, but I’m a common-sense conservative.” (Politico 3/1/2016)

On his seeming change of position to claiming to be “pro-life” he said: “But I have to say when those questions were asked, and that was many, many years ago, I wasn’t a politician.” (Meet The Press August 2015)

“I support that position with exceptions allowed for rape, incest or the life of the mother being at risk.” (Ibid)

“Having to do with abortion, if it ever were overturned, it would go back to the states.”

When pressed he said:
“Yeah, well, they’ll perhaps have to go, they’ll have to go to another state [to have an abortion].” (60 minutes, November 2016)

Make no mistake. Trump is pro-Trump and that’s it. He will say anything.
 
However, with President Trump being perhaps the most pro-life and religious-liberty-friendly President in American history
@Ike: “That’s hilarious.”

A few of President Trump’s pro-life actions:
  • Trump Administration strengthened enforcement of federal laws protecting conscience rights of health care workers who refuse to participate in abortion
  • established “Right to Try”, where those with terminal illness have right to attempt experimental drugs in hope of cure
  • gave veterans right to avoid long wait times in Veterans Administration by granting them the right to choose another health care provider
  • PRO-LIFE women’s health centers now receive funds previously earmarked for Planned Parenthood ($60 million) in Title X.
  • appointed over 200 Judges who support life, freedom, and law
  • took action against California & others for violating conscience protections
  • allowed Texas to fund health program that does not send funds to abortion businesses
  • created new Office for Conscience Protection at HHS
  • Executive Order to protect babies born during failed abortions
  • eliminated tax dollars given to abortion providers throughout world by not only reinstating, but also expanding the Mexico City Policy
  • withdrew U.S. funding from abortion-promoting UN Population Fund
  • defunded Pro-Abortion UNFPA which has been complicit in China’s forced birth control and abortion
  • appointed cabinet of many pro-life leaders
  • permits states to defund Planned Parenthood of Medicaid funds
  • eliminated Obamacare’s abortifacient coverage forced upon churches & other Christian businesses
  • stopped President Obama’s fornication-promoting $100 million per year sex-education program
  • appointed cabinet of many pro-life leaders
  • named 33 members to his council of Catholic advisors that include pro-life leaders like Janet Morana, and Marjorie Dannenfelser
  • first President to appear at March For Life
 
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