How could good God create creatures with evil and good being?

[RoseMary131]

How do you know that our world has not changed as a result of praying?

Answer to your first question: How do you know that God does listen to prayer. How do you know that we are not resisting God by our praying constantly asking something which is known by God.

You said “answer to your first question” - but you only asked two questions which is not an answer.

Our world hasn’t changed as result of praying but suffering in knowing ourselves and universe.

You wrote “Our world hasn’t changed as result of praying”.

How do you conclude that our world has not changed as a result of prayer?

 

[Bahman]

Are you saying: On your own journey to know self, creation, and Self (God), - you have concluded God to be referred to as Self.

Is your conclusion based only on your own thoughts and not from others?

Are you saying your conclusion is self and Self (God) are different state of mind within each person?

Do you mean that you believe that there is no God the Creator as believed in the faith of Christians, Jews, or Muslims?

Answer to your first question: That is just a naming.

Answer to your second question: I had the impression from other system of thought too.

Answer to your third question: I didn’t say that. I mean that Self is God and selves are us. Selves are created/given to us by God, and in potential has all the power to experience what God experience. Self and selves however is in different state of minds one controlling the creation and another experiencing creation.

Answer to your forth question: I don’t think that those God are same, as the revelation within each religion is quite different.

 

[Bahman]

How do you conclude that our world has not changed as a result of prayer?

How do you conclude that our world has changed as a result of prayer?

 

[RoseMary131]

There is only one God, but we cannot possibly experience the same God in the same manner.

The only door to God is through yourself, of course not through your senses.

Explain “we cannot possible experience the same God in the same manner.”

Explain “The only door to God is through yourself”.

 

[RoseMary131]

Our world hasn’t changed as result of praying

Originally Posted by RoseMary131 forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
How do you conclude that our world has not changed as a result of prayer?

How do you conclude that our world has changed as a result of prayer?

Did I conclude that our world has changed as a result of prayer?

Asking me a question does not answer the question I posed to you.

Bahman: Our world hasn’t changed as result of praying.

What is your basis for your idea that our world has not changed as a result of prayer.

 

[RoseMary131]

From what faith or thoughts or idea - do you refer to God by the name Self with a capital S.

That is only the result of my thought.

originally posted by RoseMary131 forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
Are you saying: On your own journey to know self, creation, and Self (God), - you have concluded God to be referred to as Self.

Is your conclusion based only on your own thoughts and not from others?

I had the impression from other system of thought too.

So, its not only the result of your thought, but you had the impression from other system of thought, too, that you refer to God by the name Self with a capital S…

From what -]faith or/-] system of thought -]or idea /-]- do you refer to God by the name Self with a capital S.

 

[RoseMary131]

I mean that Self is God and selves are us. Selves are created/given to us by God, and in potential has all the power to experience what God experience. Self and selves however is in different state of minds one controlling the creation and another experiencing creation.

Are you saying: God (also called Self) created us (also called selves).

Are you saying: We (us, selves) are created (made) by God - therefore we have the potential to experience everything that God experiences.

Are you saying: Since God created you - within you, Bahman, - is the potential to have the power to experience Everything that God has experienced. One example: Since God experienced creating and seeing Dinosaurs and the entire universe - that you also have the potential power to experience creating and seeing Dinosaurs and the entire universe.

You said, “Self and selves however is in different state of minds one controlling the creation and another experiencing creation.”

Are you saying God (Self) is a state of your mind - and that state of mind controled the creation of you?

Are you (self) (Bahman) - the state of your mind that experiences creation?

Can God (Self) both control Creation (self) (you) (us) and experience His Creation (self) (you) (us)?

Do you exist because God created you?

 

[RoseMary131]

I mean that Self is God and selves are us. Selves are created/given to us by God, and in potential has all the power to experience what God experience. Self and selves however is in different state of minds one controlling the creation and another experiencing creation.

You said: Selves are created/given to us by God, and in potential has all the power to experience what God experience.

Are these selves that are created/ given to us by God in potential to have all the power to experience what God experience - are these selves limited to human or does potential to have all the power to experience what God experience also apply to other creations of God (animals, plants, mineral, angels, all of the universe and spiritual realm)?

 

[RoseMary131]

Do you believe the God who Christians refer to as God the Creator exist?

 

[SentinelofTruth]

Okay, I don’t know how but three whole pages went by without me, so I’m just going to answer the post that was directly after my last.

Bahman:

How did they turn into devil? Why he was already evil in the beginning of time if he was not created devil? I think there is something logically wrong in your statement, first you say that the evil was created good then you say that they were evil since first day!

The beginning of time wasn’t when he was created. He was created outside of time.

Bahman:

Free will is the ability to choose between at least two feasible options, lets say in this case is evil and good. First, where the evil thought comes from in the place that everything was perfect? Second, God is perfect good and they were created good, then how possibly they decide to do a evil thing leaving this lovely situation? For what reason?

Free will allows them to make irrational decisions.

 

[tonyrey]

I think when revelation has to say something when it comes to a such a critical problem like the origin of evil.

What do you mean by “something”?

Temptation to what? To become God what is logically impossible.

To become a rival to God.

How you could acquire power?

God has given it to us. How else do you think we control ourselves?

In case Satan, if he is really standing against God, why God just dose not arrest him right now and put an end on his madness or simply wanish him.

It would defeat the purpose of creating him - or anyone else - with free will. God is the Creator not the Destroyer! Your idea of God is very primitive…

 

[Cruciferi]

God did not create evil. It exists as an alternative to his plan for life. Originally people were all good; however the fall made us predisposed to choosing incorrectly and blurring our ability to discern good and evil.

The majority of mankind is good; however, with demons ever prowling it makes our decisions much more difficult. Thus, we fail due to our fallen imperfect nature and demonic influence.

Becuase God did not want robots he allowed choice. We are free to love him or hate him. It’s all on us and we are the ones responsible.

 

[tonyrey]

God did not create evil. It exists as an alternative to his plan for life. Originally people were all good; however the fall made us predisposed to choosing incorrectly and blurring our ability to discern good and evil.

The majority of mankind is good; however, with demons ever prowling it makes our decisions much more difficult. Thus, we fail due to our fallen imperfect nature and demonic influence.

Becuase God did not want robots he allowed choice. We are free to love him or hate him. It’s all on us and we are the ones responsible.

The idea that God cannot create free beings is absurd.

 

[SentinelofTruth]

Cruciferi:

The majority of mankind is good; however, with demons ever prowling it makes our decisions much more difficult.

IMO to say the majority are good implies a rather lax standard of what counts as “good”.

 

[SentinelofTruth]

BTW RoseMary131 why do you put everything in blue?

 

[hansard]

Sorry…this is just a random test response. Nothing to see here.

 

[Bahman]

Explain “we cannot possible experience the same God in the same manner.”

Explain “The only door to God is through yourself”.

Answer to your first question: I meant we have to find our own way toward God and that specific journey brings its own experience of God.

Answer to your second question: You cannot possibly see God by your eyes, or touch or have a sense of it using your five senses. You can however feel God inside, similar to the concept that Christian call it heart.

 

[tonyrey]

Answer to your first question: I meant we have to find our own way toward God and that specific journey brings its own experience of God.

Answer to your second question: You cannot possibly see God by your eyes, or touch or have a sense of it using your five senses. You can however feel God inside, similar to the concept that Christian call it heart.

But feelings are not enough. Fanatics also have feelings but they are misguided…

 

[tonyrey]

Sorry…this is just a random test response. Nothing to see here.

What did you expect? And why? Perhaps you are too presumptuous…

 

[Bahman]

Are you saying: God (also called Self) created us (also called selves).

Are you saying: We (us, selves) are created (made) by God - therefore we have the potential to experience everything that God experiences.

Are you saying: Since God created you - within you, Bahman, - is the potential to have the power to experience Everything that God has experienced. One example: Since God experienced creating and seeing Dinosaurs and the entire universe - that you also have the potential power to experience creating and seeing Dinosaurs and the entire universe.

You said, “Self and selves however is in different state of minds one controlling the creation and another experiencing creation.”

Are you saying God (Self) is a state of your mind - and that state of mind controled the creation of you?

Are you (self) (Bahman) - the state of your mind that experiences creation?

Can God (Self) both control Creation (self) (you) (us) and experience His Creation (self) (you) (us)?

Do you exist because God created you?

Answer to your first question: There is no difference between us and selves.

Answer to your second question: Yes, we have the potential to become God otherwise the creation was not complete.

Answer to your third question: Yes, the question is whether you want to leave God and other selves.

Answer to your fourth question: God has its own state of mind and we have our state of minds.

Answer to your fifth question: Yes. Our selves feels creation.

Answer to your sixth question: God control creation and could experience us, including state of our mind.

Answer to your seventh question: Yes.